Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

**Bandit Rex** · 06-28-20 12:16

Different strokes for different folks, and in the flow of a healthy economy there are always choices: Good, Better & Best; or, to use cars as an example, Chevrolets, Buicks & Cadillacs.

It wouldn't benefit anyone if there were only Cadillacs, and it wouldn't benefit anyone if there were only Chevys. The different segments of choice are important and, in addition, each of the segments feeds the health and vitality of the other segments.

I might have a Cadillac Escalade for business and still have a Chevy truck for work. Others might just have Chevys and still others might just have Buicks; different strokes for different folks, correct?

Not everyone wants a Caddy, nor can everyone afford a Caddy; but who wants a world without Cadillacs?

If you are wondering what a world without Cadillacs looks like; look no further than Russia in 1984 (and, while you're at it, you might also want to take a look at how their ladies looked during that same period). But now that Russia has opened itself up to some degree of capitalistic choice, they have all these beautiful cars (and ladies) to choose from, including Cadillacs. Additionally, take note, all of their ladies are prettier, not just the Cadillacs.

I like Cadillacs and I like Buicks but I also like Chevys; especially those buck-wild, fun-lovin', Dukes-of-Hazard-porn-fantasy role-playin' country girl Chevys; If you get my spicy drift.

I like them all; hell, I love them all; and because I do, I indulge in variety on a regular basis.

If I understand what lots of brothers have been frustrated with lately, it is mostly a lack of new faces and an unwelcome multitude of ghosting.

But I'm optimistic, I think it is very possible for us to move the needle on these challenges. But the needle is only going to significantly move if we make our game reserve a little more hospitable to more Buicks and Caddies; and don't worry, the Chevys aren't going to leave us.

You don't have to be an SA guy, you don't have to be a P411/ TER guy and you don't have to be a SW guy; different strokes for different folks and grace & peace to everyone; but the good news is that the choices aren't mutually exclusive to each other so you can move back forth across the lines if you want to. You can mostly be a Chevy guy and still drive a Cadillac every once in a while, correct?

So, relative to Buicks and Cadillacs; we need more, not less; trust me, it will have a very positive impact on the Chevy-landscape as well; and it will not create any Chevy inflation, because more supply never creates inflation, ever.

We have ten tons of demand, correct? What we lack is supply! Why do we lack supply? Because we have not made our reserve hospitable to Buicks and Cadillacs! If Buicks & Caddies were welcomed and encouraged our supply would begin to noticeably expand. Why? Because Buicks and Cadillacs will neither stay nor go to a new place where Buicks and Cadillacs are not treated hospitably. But on the flip side of that coin, a growing number of Buicks and Cadillacs will bring in more Buicks and more Cadillacs, and more Chevys as well.

A shriveling economy does not attract new residents; but a growing economy always attracts new residents. So, a growing number of Buicks and Cadillacs will always bring in more Buicks and more Cadillacs, and more high-quality Chevys as well; and, even better, more supply will not create inflation!

I'm simply saying two things.

1. If a few more of us (that already like Buicks and Caddies) would utilize some of the more Cadillac-focused tools (like P411) a little more often; the impact on our humble little game reserve would probably be significant. When a reserve uses these kinds of tools (and others like them) on a regular basis and with some degree of skill; trust me, the Cadillacs in a four-state region take notice.

2. We need to make the reserve more hospitable to Buicks and Cadillacs; both the ones that are already here and the ones that have been so kind as to visit our reserve of late. If all we do is pick at and harass the Buicks and Cadillacs that already call our reserve home, how is it that we think we might attract more Buicks and Cadillacs? If all we do is demand that Buicks & Cadillacs cost the same as Chevys, how is it that we think we might attract more Buicks and Cadillacs or even higher quality Chevys? We won't.

There isn't anything particularly magic about the P411/ TER angle, it's just that it is an angle that is currently producing in a systematic fashion for several local brothers. But so are a few other angles; specifically, with a tip of the hat to my friend MilfMan, SA is also producing well for several local brothers; and, just like the P411/ TER angle, the SA angle will not take away from the reserve, it will only enhance it. But I can say from personal experience (and I'm not the only one) the P411/ TER angle is certainly a good way to move the ball down the field and, you know, score.

Up in General Reports, I just posted a full review of a visiting Cadillac that I saw this week (Carina) and here is a little selfie of and important information about a wonderful Cadillac I saw lats week, Ally. If you are interested Carina, Ally and Christie L'Amour will all be visiting Knoxville again this summer.

Alyse's P411#: P11668; TER # 100386; a direct link to my juicy TER review of Ally https://www.theeroticreview.com/acco...sp?ID=2224303; and a link to her personal site http://hotalyse.com/..

Bandit.

**Water Rok Dok** · 06-27-20 08:15

Originally Posted by NerdJohn [View Original Post]

Ideally, we shouldn't be patronizing women like this. You know they're double booking mongers and just going with the first one who shows up when this happens. I refuse to see girls like Echelle and Sadie because they always do this shit.

I completely understand your frustration. I don't have the time to waste on false starts. And I'm not interested in walking in right after I watch the previous guy leave.

However, many years of hobbying and reading / using various review boards throughout the US had taught me hobbying is done many different ways. We like different types of ladies. We like different types of activities. We favor different venues / locations. We have different budgets. We have different home situations that drive our behaviors. We have different risk tolerances. So, what is a perfect scenario for one monger is an absolute "no go" for another. That doesn't make either of them right (or better).

If we share information about our experiences, interactions, risks, approaches used, etc. , then each us will have what we need to maximize our pleasure while minimizing our risk. After all, that's what the board is intended for.

Unfortunately, you'll come across members who will think they know what's best for the rest of us and throw a tantrum when anyone disagrees. You'll come across white knights that will come to the defense of a "favorite" if anyone posts a negative review, as if YMMV can't be real. You'll come across members that flex their status or number of posts, as if that entitles them to something from the rest of us. Just ignore the bullshit and see if there is any value in the posts.

I've found my mongering niche and approach that suits me. I don't care if anyone else's differs. I pass along whatever pertinent mongering info I have, without passing judgement.

WRD.

**Skboy** · 06-24-20 03:55

Originally Posted by BanditRex [View Original Post]

What's your problem man? I have plenty of information that I'm willing to share and have shared with several other brothers. I have made it abundantly clear through both my words and my actions that I am more than willing to share more in-depth information (including pictures) in both PMs or off-line. If you aren't interested that's fine; but don't go picking a fight for no good reason; it wastes everyone's time. I didn't put you in your present situation.

If you want to pretend that I'm somehow not contributing to the community what do I care; but I think a few brothers might disagree with you.

I score like I score because I work hard at it! And I'm not going to risk any of that for you by throwing it all out in the public thread because you need someone to spoon-feed you a road map.

If life is giving you lemons; don't whine about it, make some sweet, juicy lemonade my brother!

Bandit.

I need to be spoon fed with 850 posts. Too funny. I have seen them come and go but You do what you do best and so will I!

**Bandit Rex** · 06-22-20 19:54

Originally Posted by Skboy [View Original Post]

That's about what I thought. Enjoy.

What's your problem man? I have plenty of information that I'm willing to share and have shared with several other brothers. I have made it abundantly clear through both my words and my actions that I am more than willing to share more in-depth information (including pictures) in both PMs or off-line. If you aren't interested that's fine; but don't go picking a fight for no good reason; it wastes everyone's time. I didn't put you in your present situation.

If you want to pretend that I'm somehow not contributing to the community what do I care; but I think a few brothers might disagree with you.

I score like I score because I work hard at it! And I'm not going to risk any of that for you by throwing it all out in the public thread because you need someone to spoon-feed you a road map.

If life is giving you lemons; don't whine about it, make some sweet, juicy lemonade my brother!

Bandit.

**Skboy** · 06-22-20 14:34

Originally Posted by BanditRex [View Original Post]

If a brother doesn't have a membership to P411 or TER, me posting a link to a lady's P411 or TER account isn't going to do anything but frustrate people. It's just like SA in that manner.

Further, I'm not going to just throw pictures of ladies, who aren't advertising widely in Knoxville, out on the public thread.

But I can tell you, as I've said before, the donation range for this segment of The Hobby starts at around $300 HR. You can see my Escort Reviews post from May 4th (10459) for more information, as well as a review and picture of Christie LAmour (and a link to her personal website).

But as several guys can attest, I am more than willing to share far more information in private conversations.

Bandit.

That's about what I thought. Enjoy.

**Bandit Rex** · 06-21-20 22:44

Originally Posted by Skboy [View Original Post]

How about posting some examples. Links photos and details along will donation requirements to enlighten the rest of the members on this site.

If a brother doesn't have a membership to P411 or TER, me posting a link to a lady's P411 or TER account isn't going to do anything but frustrate people. It's just like SA in that manner.

Further, I'm not going to just throw pictures of ladies, who aren't advertising widely in Knoxville, out on the public thread.

But I can tell you, as I've said before, the donation range for this segment of The Hobby starts at around $300 HR. You can see my Escort Reviews post from May 4th (10459) for more information, as well as a review and picture of Christie L’Amour (and a link to her personal website).

But as several guys can attest, I am more than willing to share far more information in private conversations.

Bandit.

**NerdJohn** · 06-21-20 16:05

Originally Posted by EchoEcho [View Original Post]

I expect to get some crap about my SA post on video dating, so. Nope it ain't for everybody. But a lot of these girls are simply full of it and just want attention from the opposite sex. Well hell, me too. Might as well get something out of it. So even though I'd never done it before, I tried it -- and I liked it.

Yes, I use google pay (easy to set up) and the hot supermodel-type even takes paypal. About 20-25 for a short video (2-3 minutes, but I can save the video if they send it right) or around 30 for a live skype session. I use snapchat to get these girls off of SA and onto a better platform to talk about it.

Now, I'd only accept a custom made-for-me video, so as a daddy-dom I gave 'em strict orders on what to do and say. All loved it and came thru exactly, no scams no games. One girl over in NC told me she had to drink a little to perform, but lordy did she ever perform. Pretty-hard core, a whole lotta fun. It's not much to spend and I found it quite the turn on.

BTW: it also let them know I was serious about being a good daddy, and I've already seen one of them (not the super-model) in person. Maybe a way to 'open the door' and get past all these run-arounds. NEXT!

Typically I'm against paying for pics and videos when porn is freely available. But I don't see an issue if you're getting personalized content or live cam sessions and pay what equates to a nice meal out. You've given me new perspective on the topic. Given the number of scams, flakes, platonic only, etc. That seems to be ever present on SA, I just might dip my feet into your pool.

**Skboy** · 06-21-20 15:40

Originally Posted by BanditRex [View Original Post]

Per MilfMans post below, if anyone is looking for any assistance in navigating the current incarnations of P411 and TER, I'm glad to help. Just PM me.

P411 and TER represent a different segment of the Hobby; but, as I've said before, it is a very enjoyable segment. I use P411 in conjunction with TER, together they provide a strong compliment of tools when it comes to befriending and dreaming about high quality providers who make their way through Knoxville on a regular basis.

As a side note, plenty of these high quality ladies are also very normal, down to earth gals who's rates are no higher than our local high quality ladies.

East Bound and a Down.

Bandit.

How about posting some examples. Links photos and details along will donation requirements to enlighten the rest of the members on this site.

**Bandit Rex** · 06-21-20 12:34

Per MilfMans post below, if anyone is looking for any assistance in navigating the current incarnations of P411 and TER, I'm glad to help. Just PM me.

P411 and TER represent a different segment of the Hobby; but, as I've said before, it is a very enjoyable segment. I use P411 in conjunction with TER, together they provide a strong compliment of tools when it comes to befriending and dreaming about high quality providers who make their way through Knoxville on a regular basis.

As a side note, plenty of these high quality ladies are also very normal, down to earth gals who's rates are no higher than our local high quality ladies.

East Bound and a Down.

Bandit.

**MilfMan865** · 06-20-20 23:12

Originally Posted by DiverJames [View Original Post]

Man it's about time we have a turnover in girls. The pickings are getting slim and most are bottom feeders.

Purpose: The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.

I've communicated directly with several of you and the consistent theme is that there isn't enough time available to make it through all of the talent as a result of this pandemic situation. This is in stark contrast to the sentiments mentioned by others. Saying that the options are anemic may be partly related to where you're looking.

These location tips are taken directly from member discussions on the Knoxville forum, so it's not meant to be exhaustive. You'll likely have additional avenues to find new talent, but this is merely a starting point.

Where are you looking?
~SkipTheGames: if you're still shopping there and crossing your fingers, only luck will save you. If you are still getting the run around, getting ghosted by providers reported to have ghosted others already, hoping that the gal in pic is the one that shows up, or still showing up to see a gal at a hotel and not a private residence or a spot that you can vouch ... not much to help you. Keep expencting the worst but hoping for the rest. Hopefully that pager and landline are still coming in handy. Stop looking on STG, you know that it doesn't work out more often than it does.
~USA Adult Classifieds: site is still down as of 20JUN2020, so nothing of note related to to help in your search at this time.
~Craigslist: hit or miss, mostly miss. Still crossing your fingers.
~SeekingArrangement: a veritable gold mine of new talent daily, if you're willing to put in the work. A lot of refugees from CL and BP have profiles, so you have to filter through those to find the true gems. Something for almost everyone there, even those dudes content with merely buying pics and vids. Once you refine your process on that site, the benefits can be reaped for a long time.
~UTRs: if you find a good one, treat her well since they are hard to come by.
~Traveling Ladies: a Sr. Member has touted the benefits of keeping up with the traveling ladies' schedule. The price point is steep compared to the area average, but those gals are available.
~Apps (Tinder, LetGo, Match, etc.): I can't speak to those, but they are available and members have indicated finding success.
~Other Adult-Oriented websites: the oThER site, P Four One One, AdultFriendFinder, RubRatings, XMatch, ALT, various open/poly/kink/swingers sites.
~Long-time Local Providers: they are not getting any younger, but their service has endured and they are reliable (often leads to their being taken for granted). If you're looking for new fresh-faced talent, you won't find it with them. A Sr. Member has mentioned duos in various combinations if you're looking to mix it up a bit.
~Exercise classes/Health Food Store/Parks/Mall/Gym/Grocery Store/Convenience Store: be situationally aware of anyone mentioning money woes and it could pay dividends.
~Streetwalkers: you know the drill, just cruise the strolls.
~AMPs: seems to have dried up, but a few offerings are still hanging around with the occasional visiting provider surfacing.
~Bars/Night Clubs/Restaurants/Lounges/Coffee Shop: tips are in short supply, so they are looking for ways to supplement their income in a major way.
~Strip Clubs: takeout is plentiful as the clubs are opened on reduced capacity and clientele has diminished lately. Many have mentioned not making enough to cover their bar fees, so outside the club opportunities are pursued aggressively.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results" . ,. ,. - English Proverb.

All of us have to switch up our approach from time to time, claiming that there are no options is a clear indicator.

Anonymously (within reason),. ,. ,. ,.

Milfman.

**EchoEcho** · 06-20-20 14:44

I expect to get some crap about my SA post on video dating, so. Nope it ain't for everybody. But a lot of these girls are simply full of it and just want attention from the opposite sex. Well hell, me too. Might as well get something out of it. So even though I'd never done it before, I tried it -- and I liked it.

Yes, I use google pay (easy to set up) and the hot supermodel-type even takes paypal. About 20-25 for a short video (2-3 minutes, but I can save the video if they send it right) or around 30 for a live skype session. I use snapchat to get these girls off of SA and onto a better platform to talk about it.

Now, I'd only accept a custom made-for-me video, so as a daddy-dom I gave 'em strict orders on what to do and say. All loved it and came thru exactly, no scams no games. One girl over in NC told me she had to drink a little to perform, but lordy did she ever perform. Pretty-hard core, a whole lotta fun. It's not much to spend and I found it quite the turn on.

BTW: it also let them know I was serious about being a good daddy, and I've already seen one of them (not the super-model) in person. Maybe a way to 'open the door' and get past all these run-arounds. NEXT!

**Bandit Rex** · 06-13-20 11:53

Originally Posted by EasttnnFun [View Original Post]

Did Fonzie just jump the shark?

I have no doubt you did them together but were they watching over your shoulder as you wrote this review?

Reminds of something Sharky2 would post. Maybe a cost break on the next visit. Who knows, who cares.

I really hope I'm off base on this one but man, the delivery appears so transparent.

E,

C'Mon. Man. No they didn't direct the review, they don't even really want any of these posts. But there is so much negativity about the Knoxville scene when so many great things are happening here.

To quote a famous movie. "Life's a banquet, I don't understand why so many sons of bitches are starving to death".

I'm just trying to do my part to spread some positivity; about real things I am experiencing.

Bandit.

**EasttnnFun** · 06-13-20 00:21

Did Fonzie just jump the shark?

I have no doubt you did them together but were they watching over your shoulder as you wrote this review?

Reminds of something Sharky2 would post. Maybe a cost break on the next visit. Who knows, who cares.

I really hope I'm off base on this one but man, the delivery appears so transparent.

Originally Posted by BanditRex [View Original Post]

I am grateful for the opportunity to see a fair number of ladies on a regular basis, including new friends and new faces. Additionally, I have several regular favorites that I genuinely enjoy seeing all the time.

But from my perspective, amongst all of these desirable ladies, nobody is better than Candy Curves or Kelsey-Kel.

Both of them are beautiful women with amazing bodies; and both are fun, sexy, delightful and eager to please. If you haven't seen them, you owe it to yourself; I find time with them to be life-giving.

Both CC and Kel are high-quality providers who deserve a certain degree of respect, but if you show them kindness and respect you will be rewarded, beautifully!

You can see them individually or, if you really want to treat yourself, they are continuing to do doubles together, and I can attest from personal experience, that it will be an hour or two you will not forget. You can see my review of a double with them, as well as their links, in my April 11th post.

BTW, they might even bring you your favorite bourbon.

East Bound and Down.

Bandit.

**Bandit Rex** · 06-12-20 23:51

I am grateful for the opportunity to see a fair number of ladies on a regular basis, including new friends and new faces. Additionally, I have several regular favorites that I genuinely enjoy seeing all the time.

But from my perspective, amongst all of these desirable ladies, nobody is better than Candy Curves or Kelsey-Kel.

Both of them are beautiful women with amazing bodies; and both are fun, sexy, delightful and eager to please. If you haven't seen them, you owe it to yourself; I find time with them to be life-giving.

Both CC and Kel are high-quality providers who deserve a certain degree of respect, but if you show them kindness and respect you will be rewarded, beautifully!

You can see them individually or, if you really want to treat yourself, they are continuing to do doubles together, and I can attest from personal experience, that it will be an hour or two you will not forget. You can see my review of a double with them, as well as their links, in my April 11th post.

BTW, they might even bring you your favorite bourbon.

East Bound and Down.

Bandit.

**NerdJohn** · 06-11-20 23:43

When I first found this scene, things seemed so plentiful and easy. Seeking Arrangement alone was all I needed for fun. Occasionally hitting the classifieds if I wanted something on a budget. I could get 18-21 year olds all day long for under two Benjamins with seemingly no time limit.

But then Fosta / Sesta hit in April 2018. Ever since then things have gone downhill. I don't expect any of these girls to know about that law, but it seems like the pickings get worse and worse. Seeking Arrangement is filled with GPS and scammers. I'm good at smelling them out and blocking them, but it's annoying when the only girls I can find demand 4 Benjamins a visit and won't budge. It's gotten to the point that I might as well go back to normal dating if I'm going to have to shell out that kind of cash for play every time and deal with all this bullshit to find it. Some of you would probably say it's still cheaper than having a girlfriend or wife. Well I never plan on getting married, and I've dated girls who're content just doing things like going on a hike or getting drunk at home and watching movies. I can count the number of times I've mongered in the last two years on two hands, so it might be time to retire from this hobby for good.