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  1. #1263
    Hey Master. How are you doing in Vegas?

    I have pretty flexible schedule despite being married, but not having a 24/7 available FC is definitely a negative. I am definitely not chasing super model. Super models usually do not even reply to my messages. I think I am picky about girls type (pro vs. UTR vs. Non-pro) and I am only interested in non-pro. So, that reduces the pool a lot. With my "married" status, it further cuts down the pool.

    Quote Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy  [View Original Post]
    Sorry bro. I am always mystified when I hear these things, but the married part may add an element to the planning of things that makes it too difficult? At $$ or more I just cant fathom anyone having a problem unless you only chase super models

  2. #1262
    Quote Originally Posted by DogRice  [View Original Post]
    I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.

    Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.

    Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.

    Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).

    Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.

    In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!
    Sorry bro. I am always mystified when I hear these things, but the married part may add an element to the planning of things that makes it too difficult? At $$ or more I just cant fathom anyone having a problem unless you only chase super models

  3. #1261

    3 frustrated months on SA

    I was re-joined SA in Sept after retiring from the bowl for 3+ years.

    Got only 1 Asian 19 yo (on the heavy side) to FC, and she started giving me "time constraint". So, dropped her.

    Had about 6 M&G, and 2 of them were fuckable but they were asking 350+ and can't host. I respectfully declined. They both did come back to me, but the mood is long gone.

    Got about 40 pots on text, but more than half want just online. 25% of them are okay with my budget (250 ppm) but they are mostly pro. The rest of them are asking 600+ (maybe por).

    Sent tons of messages out and respond rate was roughly 20%.

    In summary, way too many platonic or just online crap. With my limited budget (250/ ppm), it is very hard (Especially w / married folks. Like me) to score hot gal. Started going to see some K gals, and much easier and nice services. I am going back to retirement on the bowl. Good Luck to all of you folks!!

  4. #1260

    Another GPS and one that is not so GPS

    Here's the situation, both are asking for 500.

    This one is looking for a platonic lunch:

    https://www.seeking.com/member/da73c...5-86961afc5888

    And this one is offering some private time:

    https://www.seeking.com/member/ec96d...4-9d1cfb114fdd

    Guess who I'm on a date with? LOL.

  5. #1259

    And now for something different:

    Thought I had heard it all but proven wrong again!

    https://www.seeking.com/member/3616d...f-80074acfc0ae

    Just logged on to the site and she reaches out with this message "God bless your sperm on my mouth" Whoa, what do we have here? Her locator says France although she lists LA as her city. Check her out guys, probably just a bunch of crap-fishers.

    Happy New Year.

    Update: as predicted, a crap sandwich of online pics and vids. Asked her why would I pay for that when there is so much free stuff already onlne?

  6. #1258

    Are they really Seeking?

    With all the platonic only nonsense that seems to be proliferating, there's the fakers.

    Was looking around and get the "hey there" message this morning so I decide to play along and see what's up even though she's not my type. We start messaging and after asking her, she gives me the "guys on here are scams or aren't serious". We chat a little more and it appears we have an understanding about what a SD / SB relationship is. I suggest we meet and see if an arrangement is the next step. No response, haven't heard back, another FAKER.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/7376a...4-49c20889692d

    Then there's this one. Had messaged her several days ago, she read my profile but nothing. This morning she gets back and asks how much if she makes me happy. Let her know I only discuss details in person or by text, not on the SA system. No response.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/e0360...2-b243f330d1c1

    Happy Hunting and a great New Year.

  7. #1257

    Itsestrellardz

    Profile says san ysidro but actually lives in TJ. Claims she can cross the border. Wants $100 just to have lunch and see if there's chemistry. No FC first date. Only one 2nd date. Sounds like a professional meet and greeter.

    https://www.seeking.com/member/107b0...2-7bd91180f8dd

  8. #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    I told number of girls the same as you, after a few dinners or lunch dates, they stopped answer my messages. Maybe they guess I will remind them about intimacy.
    It's like an investment you have to gauge how much to put in against the potential reward. Sometimes it's a bust but you try to minimize those situations.

  9. #1255
    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    I thought it is socialist since SBs want free allowances without earnings. I am a capitalist and I am working hard to earn it.

    If they can get you to give them money for nothing then they have developed an incredible skill that the market is rewarding. Socialism would be if I gave them your money.

    Capitalism doesn't necessarily reward the hardest worker, in fact it often doesn't. Capitalism rewards the smartest application of capital.

    If you have been doing what you're doing for a long time and still working hard then perhaps you have holes in the organization you have built.

    A2
    I kind of disagree with you about it. At first, you have to work hard to get the base but after a while, you have to work smart. I worked hard at my young age to build up capital needed for investment then worked smart to grow the investment.

  10. #1254
    Quote Originally Posted by DanteHaversham  [View Original Post]
    It seems to me that if a guy wants to pay to look at pretty girl, eat and she is able to demand a high price, that is the essence of capitalism. You may not be happy about it because it drives the price up for you, but if the market allows it so be it.

    Me, I personally do not promise a "gift" on a meet and greet. Have I given one after? Yes I have it depends on the circumstances. Will I generally take a potential to a nice place? Yes I treat it like a date. I have had a girl who told me she was frustrated with the site and was in it for the free food hang out with me several times, and at one point show up with an overnight bag. No allowance. As she said, sometimes it's not always about the money.

    A little charm and a little spoiling go a lung way. I'm upfront with the girls, I tell them I may not need intimacy right away, but I will feel cheated if it's not on the table at some point. Most appreciate it and let me know if it's not an option. Some make me wait a little, however when it does happen there are usually benefits. I find there is no magic formula, every encounter is different. If the chemistry works for you embrace it, if not move on.
    I told number of girls the same as you, after a few dinners or lunch dates, they stopped answer my messages. Maybe they guess I will remind them about intimacy.

  11. #1253

    It is capitalism

    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    Recently I get many responses from significant numbers of SBs said they are only looking for platonic relationships, or just have conversations, dinners, drinks together and expect to receive allowances. What are those girls are thinking? I could not figure it out. Even one girl told me (username: Tallcurvyathelic) she just want one way benefit (only her). When did our society become socialist? I thought it happened in my dream but during day time.

    The "SD's" who don't know how to say no are fucking this shit up for everybody. These chicks are hookers, they aren't SB's.

    It's not socialism, it's pure capitalism, they are charging the maximum the market will pay for the minimum of effort for a non marginal product. As a free market guy your responsibility is to say no.

    A2
    It seems to me that if a guy wants to pay to look at pretty girl, eat and she is able to demand a high price, that is the essence of capitalism. You may not be happy about it because it drives the price up for you, but if the market allows it so be it.

    Me, I personally do not promise a "gift" on a meet and greet. Have I given one after? Yes I have it depends on the circumstances. Will I generally take a potential to a nice place? Yes I treat it like a date. I have had a girl who told me she was frustrated with the site and was in it for the free food hang out with me several times, and at one point show up with an overnight bag. No allowance. As she said, sometimes it's not always about the money.

    A little charm and a little spoiling go a lung way. I'm upfront with the girls, I tell them I may not need intimacy right away, but I will feel cheated if it's not on the table at some point. Most appreciate it and let me know if it's not an option. Some make me wait a little, however when it does happen there are usually benefits. I find there is no magic formula, every encounter is different. If the chemistry works for you embrace it, if not move on.

  12. #1252

    Another "Professional Meet & Greeters"

    This cute 1 wants $$ for just lunch / coffee, https://www.seeking.com/member/db868...c-ab9d3c06d728

    I think it was because some of the guys showered out money just to get attention. Now we have a group of them just do that instead.

    We will just have to learn & adapt, filter out the PMGs.

  13. #1251
    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    Recently I get many responses from significant numbers of SBs said they are only looking for platonic relationships, or just have conversations, dinners, drinks together and expect to receive allowances. What are those girls are thinking? I could not figure it out. Even one girl told me (username: Tallcurvyathelic) she just want one way benefit (only her). When did our society become socialist? I thought it happened in my dream but during day time.

    The "SD's" who don't know how to say no are fucking this shit up for everybody. These chicks are hookers, they aren't SB's.

    It's not socialism, it's pure capitalism, they are charging the maximum the market will pay for the minimum of effort for a non marginal product. As a free market guy your responsibility is to say no.

    A2
    I thought it is socialist since SBs want free allowances without earnings. I am a capitalist and I am working hard to earn it.

    If they can get you to give them money for nothing then they have developed an incredible skill that the market is rewarding. Socialism would be if I gave them your money.

    Capitalism doesn't necessarily reward the hardest worker, in fact it often doesn't. Capitalism rewards the smartest application of capital.

    If you have been doing what you're doing for a long time and still working hard then perhaps you have holes in the organization you have built.

    A2

  14. #1250

    Platonic relationship

    Recently I get many responses from significant numbers of SBs said they are only looking for platonic relationships, or just have conversations, dinners, drinks together and expect to receive allowances. What are those girls are thinking? I could not figure it out. Even one girl told me (username: Tallcurvyathelic) she just want one way benefit (only her). When did our society become socialist? I thought it happened in my dream but during day time.

    The "SD's" who don't know how to say no are fucking this shit up for everybody. These chicks are hookers, they aren't SB's.

    It's not socialism, it's pure capitalism, they are charging the maximum the market will pay for the minimum of effort for a non marginal product. As a free market guy your responsibility is to say no.

    A2

  15. #1249

    Also known as

    Quote Originally Posted by JWalker350  [View Original Post]
    I think some SBs just want nice free dinners, drinks then disappeared, not answer messages. It happened to me and even one SB admitted to me she just wanted to go out for free dinner and drinks. Watch it out, bros.
    AKA "rinsers" or what I think is more descriptive: professional meet and greeters. That's one good reason to just ask them out for a coffee or smoothies date. Possibly breakfast or lunch, which is easier on the budget. Recently had a college wannabe sb talking about how she needs help etc and how she would like to be spoiled for once in her life. Agreed on a M&G, at which point she says "I've always wanted to go to the Marine Room" I responded, sure, I'll treat you a nice dinner if we meet at my place first for some up close and personal time. Never heard back from her.

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