Ripoff Reports

[BigBoy3470]

Ok that is really weird because I have seen Kate many times and she has never ever asked for a cash app or even the money upfront. There has never been an indication of drugs (that I could detect) which is why these girls rip guys off anyway (they realize its easier to steal than fuck) I am just a little skeptical of this post mostly because I have seen her so many times and I haven't checked out this guy's posting history to see what it might be about. I certainly hope this is not the path kate has chosen.

I agree with your comment I don't believe it she's left me hanging but never ripped me off.

[Mongerlicious]

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...y/526114573879

Ok that is really weird because I have seen Kate many times and she has never ever asked for a cash app or even the money upfront. There has never been an indication of drugs (that I could detect) which is why these girls rip guys off anyway (they realize its easier to steal than fuck) I am just a little skeptical of this post mostly because I have seen her so many times and I haven't checked out this guy's posting history to see what it might be about. I certainly hope this is not the path kate has chosen.

[Topherman]

So today I'm looking in the Daytona area and come across Kate.

I reach out and agree to pick her up outside a store on MLK in the hood.

Kate tells me she is staying at the days inn on us 1 so we do our 100 cash app.

And away we go. Once moving she says she has lost her key and will need me to hide so mgmt.

Doesn't throw her out for traffic. I'm eager to obildge only to have her exit and start walking away from the hotel.

With my Mario.

I go back to the days inn and advise she is a hooker and then proceed to report the theft to cash app and my bank.

Kate has gone ghost and is not responding but thankfully I grabbed a nice pic of her outside the store for future uses and annomous law enforcement tips.

Stay as far away as you can from this girl and keep your Mario's safe!

That sucks that it happened. But it is part of the lifestyle and everyone has had it happen to them. I tend to stay with the same few girls and don't pay them until the deed has been accomplished. I've never not paid them but I have given less than they were told due to performance. Cash is always best, but I've sent money via PayPal, FB messenger but only to the ones I know.

Show them the money then put it away. If they want the money they going to stay. I'd never send money via electronical means until after.

I am curious as to what your bank and your app did about reporting the theft. Did you recover to money? When you went to the hotel to report her as a hooker, what did you say and what was the response?

You can pm me if you don't want to answer on this post.

Good luck and safe dreams.

T-Man.

[Sunny1966]

So today I'm looking in the Daytona area and come across Kate.

I reach out and agree to pick her up outside a store on MLK in the hood.

Kate tells me she is staying at the days inn on us 1 so we do our 100 cash app.

And away we go. Once moving she says she has lost her key and will need me to hide so mgmt.

Doesn't throw her out for traffic. I'm eager to obildge only to have her exit and start walking away from the hotel.

With my Mario.

I go back to the days inn and advise she is a hooker and then proceed to report the theft to cash app and my bank.

Kate has gone ghost and is not responding but thankfully I grabbed a nice pic of her outside the store for future uses and annomous law enforcement tips.

Stay as far away as you can from this girl and keep your Mario's safe!

http://daytona.skipthegames.com/fema...y/526114573879

[James185]

You posted neither a link or the pic that you "thankfully grabbed" that would help anyone else that is mongering. So really I am not sure how valuable your post really is. The post's for Kate that show 2 cute girls is shouting scam as I did contact her and she told me a cash app was necessary and even though I am smart enough to ignore what is clearly a scam. There has been multiple posts in this forum that explains NEVER USE A CASH APP FOR THESE girls.

I received the same message only cash ap and pay portion upfront. Just ignore those ads.

[Storm321]

So today I'm looking in the Daytona area and come across Kate.

I reach out and agree to pick her up outside a store on MLK in the hood.

Kate tells me she is staying at the days inn on us 1 so we do our 100 cash app.

And away we go. Once moving she says she has lost her key and will need me to hide so mgmt.

Doesn't throw her out for traffic. I'm eager to obildge only to have her exit and start walking away from the hotel.

With my Mario.

I go back to the days inn and advise she is a hooker and then proceed to report the theft to cash app and my bank.

Kate has gone ghost and is not responding but thankfully I grabbed a nice pic of her outside the store for future uses and annomous law enforcement tips.

Stay as far away as you can from this girl and keep your Mario's safe!

If you had been on this site a little longer you would know that what you did is something most of us who have been here a while would never do! Live and learn.

[Mongerlicious]

So today I'm looking in the Daytona area and come across Kate.

I reach out and agree to pick her up outside a store on MLK in the hood.

Kate tells me she is staying at the days inn on us 1 so we do our 100 cash app.

And away we go. Once moving she says she has lost her key and will need me to hide so mgmt.

Doesn't throw her out for traffic. I'm eager to obildge only to have her exit and start walking away from the hotel.

With my Mario

I go back to the days inn and advise she is a hooker and then proceed to report the theft to cash app and my bank.

Kate has gone ghost and is not responding but thankfully I grabbed a nice pic of her outside the store for future uses and annomous law enforcement tips.

Stay as far away as you can from this girl and keep your Mario's safe!

You posted neither a link or the pic that you "thankfully grabbed" that would help anyone else that is mongering. So really I am not sure how valuable your post really is. The post's for Kate that show 2 cute girls is shouting scam as I did contact her and she told me a cash app was necessary and even though I am smart enough to ignore what is clearly a scam. There has been multiple posts in this forum that explains NEVER USE A CASH APP FOR THESE girls.

[Sunny1966]

So today I'm looking in the Daytona area and come across Kate.

I reach out and agree to pick her up outside a store on MLK in the hood.

Kate tells me she is staying at the days inn on us 1 so we do our 100 cash app.

And away we go. Once moving she says she has lost her key and will need me to hide so mgmt.

Doesn't throw her out for traffic. I'm eager to obildge only to have her exit and start walking away from the hotel.

With my Mario.

I go back to the days inn and advise she is a hooker and then proceed to report the theft to cash app and my bank.

Kate has gone ghost and is not responding but thankfully I grabbed a nice pic of her outside the store for future uses and annomous law enforcement tips.

Stay as far away as you can from this girl and keep your Mario's safe!

[Member #6026]

What is that scammers get out of that? Phone numbers to hack? Emails to spam? I am just curious. Any spammers out there that want to enlighten us? .

Here's another way scammers try to monetise the information gap: http://archive.ph/aVz15.

By pimping a fake hookup site.

Loved the title though. I wonder if scammers have Freudian slips?

[Carlosa]

And gift card not cash.

Some providers from south America list in kg and cm.

Emails, phone numbers and in some cases, deposits or other info. You would be amazed what can be derived from a few nuggets of info. I use a text app that also makes calls, burried deep in my phone. I used to keep a mongering phone, but that was too hard to explain when uncovered accidently.

Emails and numbers can be sold off on the black web. And the ones that require a deposit, well shame on any monger that falls for that.

Here are the quick tells it is a scammer:

Location: downtown, in your area, anywhere you want me, online, FL.

Height: listed in CM not feet or inches.

Weight: listed in KG not lbs.

Images that don't match, or have a gmail.com address on them directly.

And if they are knockout fucking georgous. We are NOT that lucky!

[NewAgain]

Emails, phone numbers and in some cases, deposits or other info. You would be amazed what can be derived from a few nuggets of info. I use a text app that also makes calls, burried deep in my phone. I used to keep a mongering phone, but that was too hard to explain when uncovered accidently.

Emails and numbers can be sold off on the black web. And the ones that require a deposit, well shame on any monger that falls for that.

Here are the quick tells it is a scammer:

Location: downtown, in your area, anywhere you want me, online, FL.

Height: listed in CM not feet or inches.

Weight: listed in KG not lbs.

Images that don't match, or have a gmail.com address on them directly.

And if they are knockout fucking georgous. We are NOT that lucky!

What is that scammers get out of that? Phone numbers to hack? Emails to spam? I am just curious. Any spammers out there that want to enlighten us? .

[NewAgain]

Well, there is pressure now for sure. LOL I will try to do my best. Had a family weekend some took off from my monger duties, but should start another one in a day or two!

Gentlemen, let me add another red flag to your scam-detecting arsenal. Scammers have recently been posting adds with pictures such as in this ad:

http://archive.ph/blx5K

*Note that I haven't researched this particular ad thoroughly so I'm not definitively claiming it's fake. I currently consider it "suspicious" and present it here for illustrative purposes only.

The red flag in this example ad is that all of the pictures have text ("Rebecca" in this case) added to them. The reason scammers do this is to fool TinEye and similar image matching engines.

However, some legitimate providers will occasionally do the same, especially with phone numbers. Sometimes they want their number to accompany their picture for ease of contact, and sometimes they want to make it more difficult for others to repurpose their photos.

So while adding text to photos doesn't guarantee a fake, I do consider it a red flag, especially when it's every photo.

Unrelated: do you blokes ever establish numerical significance to your posts? You know, like it's your 100th or 1000th post so you want it to be particularly meaningful? I just noticed that this is post 151 for me, so I have this weird compulsion to give a shout out to Bacardi. NewAgain has a big one coming up soon. I'm expecting great things from that post. No pressure brother, lol!

[Member #6026]

Gentlemen, let me add another red flag to your scam-detecting arsenal. Scammers have recently been posting adds with pictures such as in this ad:

http://archive.ph/blx5K

*Note that I haven't researched this particular ad thoroughly so I'm not definitively claiming it's fake. I currently consider it "suspicious" and present it here for illustrative purposes only.

The red flag in this example ad is that all of the pictures have text ("Rebecca" in this case) added to them. The reason scammers do this is to fool TinEye and similar image matching engines.

However, some legitimate providers will occasionally do the same, especially with phone numbers. Sometimes they want their number to accompany their picture for ease of contact, and sometimes they want to make it more difficult for others to repurpose their photos.

So while adding text to photos doesn't guarantee a fake, I do consider it a red flag, especially when it's every photo.

Unrelated: do you blokes ever establish numerical significance to your posts? You know, like it's your 100th or 1000th post so you want it to be particularly meaningful? I just noticed that this is post 151 for me, so I have this weird compulsion to give a shout out to Bacardi. NewAgain has a big one coming up soon. I'm expecting great things from that post. No pressure brother, lol!

[NbWill]

What is that scammers get out of that? Phone numbers to hack? Emails to spam? I am just curious. Any spammers out there that want to enlighten us? .

[Bud Green]

I'm posting this because there are an increasing number of posts asking "Has anybody seen this one?" when the ad in question is clearly a fake / scam. So we'll use the fake ad in the following link to discuss the red flags that accompany most fakes (I will use the words "fake" and "scam" synonymously from here on):

http://archive.ph/FBBCu

Let's start with the title:

Single mom Want li.cked pussy-- 862***2074

Scammers will often use overtly crass language that most providers would not. Most providers are subtle in their titles, often with clever innuendos suggesting what they want without being so explicit. Also, fakes seem to favor descriptors like "single mom," "unhappy wife," "recently divorced," that legitimate ads don't. Scammers will also throw in errors (like the capital W or the period in "li.cked") to try and make the ads appear legitimate and not too clean, but I wouldn't use this as a red flag unless you're very experienced at spotting how fake ad errors are often noticably different from real ones.

Now for that phone number with the unrecognizable area code. The vast majority of real ads will have local area codes (386, 321, 407, and 904). The vast majority of fake ads will not. There are notable exceptions like Kate and Christian, who kept their mobile numbers when they moved here, but most Volusia providers do have 386 area codes, with a smattering of the others thrown in.

Next, their advertised age. I don't recommend using an ad's listed age to discriminate fakes. So many legitimate ads have fake ages that it makes it hard to tell. However, I'd say about 98% of Volusia providers list their age as 24 or older. Offhand I can only recall one active advertiser who lists an age younger than 24 (Deland Barbie, 22). So the listed age of 27 in our example isn't a red flag to me, but you should be highly skeptical of any ad with a listed age of 18 or 19.

And now the improbably good pictures. I recommend taking a good look at the pictures of providers you know are legitimate* and comparing them to our example. Many fakes have high-quality images (good lighting, staging, etc. much like our example pictures) with high-quality content (like the improbably hot lass in our example). Most real ads will be low-quality images with realistic women as the subject.

* You know an ad is legitimate because reputable mongers have reviewed them. This means you have to RTFF (Read The Fucking Forum). I really can't stress this enough. You must read the forum (more on this later).

The next thing you should do is a TinEye (or similar) search on the images to see where else they appear on the web. Here are three ways to do this (and here I assume you are using a smartphone):

Method 1. Within the STG ad, tap on the picture in question. Then tap on the link at the bottom of the picture that says "Is this photo real?" This method used to work for me but now I get a security policy error, so on to method 2.

Method 2. Within the ad, tap on the picture in question. Next, tap-and-hold on the image. When the menu comes up, select "Copy Image Location" or similar option. Next, launch tineye.com. Tap-and-hold on the search field, select "Paste" from the pop-up menu, and tap the search button (the one with the magnifying glass icon). This method works with most browsers on most sites, but doesn't work for me on our archive.ph example, so on to method 3.

Method 3. If the previous 2 methods don't work, this one almost certainly will. In our fake ad example, tap on the picture. Next, tap-and-hold on the image until the pop-up menu comes up. Select "Save Image" or similar and save it to a folder you can easily find (like Downloads, Gallery, etc.). Then launch tineye.com. Press the upload button which is to the left of the search field and navigate to the folder you saved your picture in. Then select your picture and TinEye does the rest. In our example, three hits came back dating back to 2013. Also, the same pics are in use currently (as of this posting) on escortads.ch in Ames Iowa with a different phone number. Pretty questionable for a Daytona lass. If you are really computer savvy, it couldn't hurt to run other image processing and matching applications, but expounding on them all here is a bridge too far I'm afraid.

Thank you for your time and effort in sharing your words of wisdom. Much appreciated.