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  1. #310

    Perhaps if game played in Pitt?

    Each municipality sets its own standard, which doesn't have to be consistent. It's not up to the sport itself, but rather the particular prosecutor / District Atty in the jurisdiction where attack occurred. Perhaps different outcome if it was a Pitt defender hitting the Cleveland quarterback, since game was in Cleveland and that is where charges would have been brought against Garrett. It wouldn't even matter if "victim" wanted to press charges or not, because the video would be sufficient evidence to convict.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Wasn't there already a precedent in NHL involving Todd Bertuzzi 15 or so years back? Remember Bertuzzi-Moore incident? It was in Canada too where hockey injuries are suppose to be cultural occupational hazard, sort of like sepuku in Japan as in "shit happens". The incident by the way was part of the play albeit a premeditated one which in hockey happens all the time, not something that happened in between whistles. Bertuzzi got a criminal record out of it too. And that was hockey. IN CANADA!

  2. #309
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    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    Garrett was lucky that he didn't kill or seriously hurt Rudolph. However, I don't think it need concern LE. It was a dumb play but not worthy of blurring the lines between the NFL and real life.

    The NFL is a very violent place. Perhaps half of the players would probably be in prison but for the NFL. I thought Pouncey's play was equally horrific and violent. Kicking a guy on the ground! As one tweeter indicated, "it looked like a fight in the hood. " The prior helmet to helmet hit, where the cornerback was thrown out, was worse in that game! That receiver won't be back for a while.

    Not a good look for the NFL, but not worthy of involving legal charges against Garrett. IMHO.
    Wasn't there already a precedent in NHL involving Todd Bertuzzi 15 or so years back? Remember Bertuzzi-Moore incident? It was in Canada too where hockey injuries are suppose to be cultural occupational hazard, sort of like sepuku in Japan as in "shit happens". The incident by the way was part of the play albeit a premeditated one which in hockey happens all the time, not something that happened in between whistles. Bertuzzi got a criminal record out of it too. And that was hockey. IN CANADA!

  3. #308

    The prior helmet to helmet hit was worse in that game!

    Garrett was lucky that he didn't kill or seriously hurt Rudolph. However, I don't think it need concern LE. It was a dumb play but not worthy of blurring the lines between the NFL and real life.

    The NFL is a very violent place. Perhaps half of the players would probably be in prison but for the NFL. I thought Pouncey's play was equally horrific and violent. Kicking a guy on the ground! As one tweeter indicated, "it looked like a fight in the hood. " The prior helmet to helmet hit, where the cornerback was thrown out, was worse in that game! That receiver won't be back for a while.

    Not a good look for the NFL, but not worthy of involving legal charges against Garrett. IMHO.

    Quote Originally Posted by Skatar018  [View Original Post]
    As far as I'm concerned that's assault and battery with a weapon. Garrett should be facing criminal prosecution, but as usual LE isn't looking into to it, seems to be a slam dunk case as there is plenty of evidence. Hmmm who knew that criminal activity is allowed on a football field without fear of prosecution!, think I'll start bringing dates there!

    As for the NFL, fuck'them if they don't ban Garrett for life, felt that way about Michael Vick also, send a clear message that shit like this will ruin your career in the NFL.

  4. #307

    Myles Garrett

    As far as I'm concerned that's assault and battery with a weapon. Garrett should be facing criminal prosecution, but as usual LE isn't looking into to it, seems to be a slam dunk case as there is plenty of evidence. Hmmm who knew that criminal activity is allowed on a football field without fear of prosecution!, think I'll start bringing dates there!

    As for the NFL, fuck'them if they don't ban Garrett for life, felt that way about Michael Vick also, send a clear message that shit like this will ruin your career in the NFL.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Myles Garrett's helmet hit on Mason Rudolph

  5. #306
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    What was worse?

    Albert Haynesworth head stomp or Myles Garrett's helmet hit on Mason Rudolph?. This has been all in the news since last night. I saw the game from Champions Bar and most of the people there were pretty shocked. Myles made contact with Mason's head that could've ended his career. I put the situation entirely on Garrett because he insisted on driving Rudolph into the ground after Rudolf had gotten rid of the ball on a lateral. That's what, rightly, set Rudolph off. DeCastro went after Garrett because of that. Pouncey came in late after with the punches and then the kick after Garrett took the swing with the helmet. Ogunjobi coming in and shoving Rudolph down was laughable and he'll be fined for it. I could see Garrett being gone for the rest of the year because of how seriously this is.

    Also, Celtics are on a 5 game road trip and they're facing some tough opponents. Could you guys see them coming back home with some great road wins?. Bruins?. Will someone tell them to pull their heads out of their asses and start playing hockey?. And last, the Patriots. I could see the Eagles giving the Patriots a run but, the Patriots shall prevail with a decent road win. I hate the Eagles, the most annoying, attention-seeking fangirls, I have ever watch and seen.

    P.S. I am NOT Outraged like the ESPNS, Damien Woody's Stephen A. Smiths, and FOX Sports of the world!, It's FUCKING FOOTBALL!!. It has always been a violent sport!.

  6. #305
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    Well. Shit man!

    The Jets Beat the Giants.
    The Falcons beat the Saints.
    The Dolphins beat the Colts.
    The Browns beat the Bills and.
    The Chiefs got beat by the Titans.

    Something this week was TRULY in the water. H-o-l-y Shit!.

  7. #304
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    I really like how the Celtics are jelling so early in the season and how they're being ignored with a 7-1 record against a good Spurs team. Gordon Heyward. (sigh) Man, this guy can't catch a break. Luckily, it wasn't his ankle, knee or any lower extremity. It's been mentioned that he'll be out a month or more till his hand heals. Jaylen is playing like the player Celtics fans expected him to be. He drops 30, Kemba drops 26 and playing like a boss!. Robert 'Timelord' Williams is a fucking monster!. I mean jeez, this is his second year!. He's ONLY going to get better!. Jason, Jaylen, and Timelord, this is what the fans have asked for now that the "fucking cancer" is now long gone playing for Brooklyn.

    How long this keeps up is anyone's guess. I do hope Gordon comes back ASAP.

  8. #303

    City of Champions

    Celtics are competing against Philly and Bucks for supremacy in Eastern Conference. Both Philly and Bucks have some issues with their 3 point shooting. The players that both clubs lost in off season were competent 3-point shooters. Their replacement players lack history of being above average 3-point shooters. Toronto not deep enough to compete. Of course, Boston's achilles is their big men. Too bad they had to trade Baynes to sign Walker.

    Bruins have same issue as last year. Offense from 2nd, 3rd, 4th lines. First line is carrying them right now, but they can't do it for the full season.

    Heres hoping Pats correct all their issues during the bye week, Wynn steps in and fortifies O-line, and Harry or someone else steps up as a receiver, and Brady has instant chemistry.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Kawhiless Toronto with Lowry, M. Gasol & Siakam are not the same as were Gretzkyless Oilers with Messier, Anderson and Kurri still leading the charge. Sixers on the other hand are going to get better down the stretch. The Bucks are going to be there for sure too. I'm still dubious about the Heat. They should move Lakers back to Minnesota. At least then the name would fit. They should rename their LA team into WaterShortages or LA Fire. No, I guess that would be too cruel. LOL.

    The Bs should be fine down the stretch too. Still are too small and frisky though. Getting a bit more muscle into the lineup wouldn't hurt still. I'd love to see P. K. Subban in the Bruins uniform. Tough, nasty, with a wicked slapper, and would really piss off the Canadiens (not that they matter all that much lately but would warm my heart still).

  9. #302
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    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    How about' them Celtics, eh?. How about them Bruins, eh?. Both teams are looking pretty solid!. Yes, of course, the season is early but, you got to like the product on the court as well as on the ice. A question, who are the Celtics achilles down the stretch?. Is it Milwaukee, Toronto?. Could the Celtics win the ECF and face, dare I say, either the Clippers or our arch-rivals?. As for the Bruins, they are playing with a purpose. Dare I say they're playing like. A Rabid bear!. (I would say dog, but, you get the gist).

    Future predictions, fellas?. I can say this much for both teams, it sure as hell isn't dull watching them!.
    Kawhiless Toronto with Lowry, M. Gasol & Siakam are not the same as were Gretzkyless Oilers with Messier, Anderson and Kurri still leading the charge. Sixers on the other hand are going to get better down the stretch. The Bucks are going to be there for sure too. I'm still dubious about the Heat. They should move Lakers back to Minnesota. At least then the name would fit. They should rename their LA team into WaterShortages or LA Fire. No, I guess that would be too cruel. LOL.

    The Bs should be fine down the stretch too. Still are too small and frisky though. Getting a bit more muscle into the lineup wouldn't hurt still. I'd love to see P. K. Subban in the Bruins uniform. Tough, nasty, with a wicked slapper, and would really piss off the Canadiens (not that they matter all that much lately but would warm my heart still).

  10. #301
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    How about' them Celtics, eh?. How about them Bruins, eh?. Both teams are looking pretty solid!. Yes, of course, the season is early but, you got to like the product on the court as well as on the ice. A question, who are the Celtics achilles down the stretch?. Is it Milwaukee, Toronto?. Could the Celtics win the ECF and face, dare I say, either the Clippers or our arch-rivals?. As for the Bruins, they are playing with a purpose. Dare I say they're playing like. A Rabid bear!. (I would say dog, but, you get the gist).

    Future predictions, fellas?. I can say this much for both teams, it sure as hell isn't dull watching them!.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

    Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

    The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

    Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

    I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.
    If AB wasn't such a f-head we'd have 19:0.

  12. #299

    I'm glad I don't play for the eagles

    Quote Originally Posted by Longjblues  [View Original Post]
    MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

    Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

    The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

    Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

    I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.
    If the Oline can get on track with Wynn that will huge. Brady didn't have any time, Sony has no place to run. I'm more worried about the oline than anything. As for weapons, Brady had done more with less IMO.

  13. #298

    I was hoping for 13-3 at beginning of year. No 19-0.

    MM, you are right about "Good Loss & wake up call". Give credit to Baltimore for a good game & a good game plan. Certainly coming off a bye week helps the Ravens a little.

    Not sure if its the first real football team. I would consider Pitt with Roethlisberger, as well as Buffalo (6-2) as "real football teams" notwithstanding what the local talking heads / pundits keep repeating!

    The fumble by Edelman was a killer, but perhaps that first penalty / mistake at the end of Baltimore's first drive where the Ravens were originally forced to kick a field goal, but because of the Pats penalty, Jackson scored, set the tone for the evening. Pats seemed out of sync from the get go.

    Were the Pats already into their bye week before the game started??

    I just hope that getting Wynn back on the O-line, and Harry ads something to the receiving corp, so the Pats can improve their offense. I am not worried about the defense. 14-2 or 13-3 still look like possibilities.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    The issue with yesterday's game was that we faced a real football team for the first time this season. Aside from the Buffalo game which was right, the seven other games we played and beat up on, tomato can teams. That was a loss we needed to bring everyone back to reality and realize this team was not going 19-0.

  14. #297
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    Good loss and a wake up call

    The issue with yesterday's game was that we faced a real football team for the first time this season. Aside from the Buffalo game which was right, the seven other games we played and beat up on, tomato can teams. That was a loss we needed to bring everyone back to reality and realize this team was not going 19-0.

  15. #296
    It's always a hard fought game with the Ravens & I expect it to be the same tonight, & yeah I expect us to win & the Ravens to whine about it. If we can keep Lamar Jackson contained (break his leg) then our D should be alright, if not it could be a long day.

    With our D providing turnovers, giving us a short field & scoring we should be good.

    Ball control on our offense would help a lot & that's what we've been trying to do by mixing it up with the run, added receivers, hope to see Tom have a break out day with the receivers finally.

    If our D has a week spot it maybe the against the run, Nick Chubb had 131 yds against us & that's what you get when you commit to shutting down Clevelands receivers, I'll take 150 yards on the ground & zero TDs while shutting down the receiving core any day.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Big test tonight for the Patriots Against the Ravens. This one team has somewhat been a thorn in our side in major playoff games. Of course, Ray is gone, Terrell is playing for the Cardinals and Ed Reed is retired. Playing the Ravens was more like a knock down bloody street fight. Anyone remember the regular-season game in 2007 when Brady threw the winning touchdown to Jabar Gaffney which kept their perfect winning season intact?. Ravens players went into a meltdown, sideline coaches calling TO when they didn't need to and, tons of holding calls on the Ravens. That game was intense!. Anyone expecting the same tonight or, will the Pats D stifle all the hype?.
    The O-line will get much better if Isaiah Wynn can make it back off IR, but I still believe that it was James Devlin that was the key to our run game, including of course a healthy O-line.

    Quote Originally Posted by MeatMan  [View Original Post]
    Is anyone here satisfied or dissatisfied with the offensive line?. The pass blocking is good despite Newhouse. The run blocking is not. Especially Mason and Cannon. They can't block. Even 'Scar' (Dante Scarnecchia) mentioned that they aren't good enough.

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