Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**LuckyNutz** · 10-14-19 17:13

So last night, one of my old dreams from California called me. She needed to vent to someone about a couple of issues. So here goes.

Having a standing appointment at a certain time, then asking her to push it back an hour and then another hour. When she told the guy she couldn't do the new time, he got upset and told her she was a flake and would write about it.

I told her she wasn't in the wrong and that if he couldn't understand that she had her own things going on than what the hell?

Another time she agreed to do an outcall with one of her regulars. They never talk about the donation as its been the same for the last two years (yes, she tells me everything). He's an hour away, what happens? Well she ends up spending two hours with him. At the end of the night, he gives her a gift basket and less than the normal amount. She asks him about the donation amount provided. He says, "well I didn't have it all and I knew you wouldn't come if I told you and wanted to see you. " Her response, "Ok. Well instead of just telling me ahead of time and letting me know, I'm going to give you a heads up and let you know there will be no more appointments and youll need to find a new ATF. ".

Basically guy is a douche and tried to get a discount while giving her a basket of stuff she most likely doesn't need.

Promise this is the final one, dream girl tells me that a few of the guys she has seen have been trying to invade her privacy. Basically either trying to find her on Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, whatever else people use nowadays. One guy even went as far as getting her real name to look her up as she has a text now number. The guy found out that she has a boyfriend she is seeing. So during one of his incall visits he asks if she's seeing anyone. To hold on to the fantasy, she tells the guy no. He calls her a liar and that he saw on social media that she was dating someone. He than proceeded to go onto a California site to let everyone know.

My response was, just don't deal with him. People shouldn't be nosy especially when guys complain about their privacy being violated when you ask for verification of who they are.

MORAL: Guys the reason some of these ladies disappear is because they become jaded and aren't given the privacy they deserve. If we personally don't like having to give out our information, why would you be okay getting their's. The funny thing is that most people on the site that complain about their privacy being violated are also the ones that look for their personal information.

Nutz off.

**LuckyNutz** · 10-14-19 16:02

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

How do I saw Never give out your personal info. This is a hobby and you keep it separate from your private life. If they want verification we are safe give them a few providers name an number you have seen. They san also check you reviews on this web-site. If that don't work move on. No pictures of yourself, No drivers license, Pay stubs, work place. Nothing personal. It will come back to bit you in the ass.

Look, well aware that at it is a hobby. But if you manage to make a connection where someone becomes an ATF. Its quite difficult not to allow them into your private life a little bit. Personally I don't go in just thinking its a wham-bam thank you scenario. Need to feel comfortable so chatter does ensue. Now if you have an ATF and you are communicating off and on, there is a good chance that you are sharing information. Whether its them visiting your home where there are pictures or maybe grabbing dinner or picking them up. Guess maybe some are jaded, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason not to.

**Sgwaboe** · 10-14-19 14:54

Originally Posted by DearPrudence [View Original Post]

Which is more important to you? Obviously, you want both and sometimes can find that but if you had to choose, what would you say is more important? For me, without question, it is enthusiasm. In fact, I have been with some gorgeous women who I could not get into at all because they were just going through the motions. Your thoughts?

I want to spend my hard earned $ on a woman that really gets into it and me, or can at least believably fake it. But then again, I've been single for a while now, and most times anymore I'm just looking for a hot f**k. Oral skills are definitely a priority as well and, whether you guys agree or disagree, they are most assuredly lacking from a lot of providers in this area. Maybe they've just been told for too long that simply bobbing on the pole is a great BJ. Or maybe I'm just a jaded old man.

**Dave Usa** · 10-13-19 23:16

Originally Posted by DearPrudence [View Original Post]

I'll let them take a pic of my license plate if they want but that is the extent of it. When you initially meet someone it is understandable that they want to feel safe. Letting them take a picture of your license plate in no way incriminates you. I allow them to send the pic to someone else prior to leaving also so they feel safe. Some may not want to do this but I am OK with it. As to the personal stuff, not worth divulging that. Depending on your situation they could blackmail you.

I once had a PI run a plate. Had owner's name and address the next day. Saved some money during my divorce.

**Hooter12** · 10-13-19 21:33

Originally Posted by TechSticles [View Original Post]

Why on earth would you knowingly let a hooker take a picture of your license plate?

In Ohio license plate information if public information as far as the name of the owner goes. Beyond that other than to law enforcement the address and any other information is redacted. Its no different if someone just took a picture of your plate in a parking lot. No danger of them taking a picture of your plate as far as finding your address etc. Granted I wouldn't like it either but no real danger there unless its in your name and you don't want them knowing your name. That I would understand.

**TechSticles** · 10-13-19 20:25

Originally Posted by DearPrudence [View Original Post]

I'll let them take a pic of my license plate if they want but that is the extent of it. When you initially meet someone it is understandable that they want to feel safe. Letting them take a picture of your license plate in no way incriminates you. I allow them to send the pic to someone else prior to leaving also so they feel safe. Some may not want to do this but I am OK with it. As to the personal stuff, not worth divulging that. Depending on your situation they could blackmail you.

Why on earth would you knowingly let a hooker take a picture of your license plate?

**Dear Prudence** · 10-13-19 15:31

Which is more important to you? Obviously, you want both and sometimes can find that but if you had to choose, what would you say is more important? For me, without question, it is enthusiasm. In fact, I have been with some gorgeous women who I could not get into at all because they were just going through the motions. Your thoughts?

**Dear Prudence** · 10-13-19 15:29

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

How do I saw Never give out your personal info. This is a hobby and you keep it separate from your private life. If they want verification we are safe give them a few providers name an number you have seen. They san also check you reviews on this web-site. If that don't work move on. No pictures of yourself, No drivers license, Pay stubs, work place. Nothing personal. It will come back to bit you in the ass.

I'll let them take a pic of my license plate if they want but that is the extent of it. When you initially meet someone it is understandable that they want to feel safe. Letting them take a picture of your license plate in no way incriminates you. I allow them to send the pic to someone else prior to leaving also so they feel safe. Some may not want to do this but I am OK with it. As to the personal stuff, not worth divulging that. Depending on your situation they could blackmail you.

**Hillbilly Bob** · 10-13-19 08:13

Originally Posted by GiDaddy [View Original Post]

What do you guys think about some these gals that asks for your real name, company name, work number, address, email, etc. For their screening purposes? Do some of you guys really give that info up? For me it's a big "fuck no! Recently that's what I have ran into with some the gals asking to do a screening. I always reply back "Sure I'll give you my info if you give me yours. Tell me your real name, address, and I know you don't have a corporate job so give me your facebook info as well so I can check you and your family out. " But the gals think that's not a fair request. It's only fair if they have an upper hand on you so they can easily ruin your career and your life LOL. Come on gals. Use some common sense. I know your worried about your safety but there's different ways to go about it. At end of the day you're in a business that has some danger associated with it whether you like it or not.

How do I saw Never give out your personal info. This is a hobby and you keep it separate from your private life. If they want verification we are safe give them a few providers name an number you have seen. They san also check you reviews on this web-site. If that don't work move on. No pictures of yourself, No drivers license, Pay stubs, work place. Nothing personal. It will come back to bit you in the ass.

**JustACustomer** · 10-12-19 18:35

Originally Posted by Cincyjim [View Original Post]

Next time you're banging her, pull out your phone and start texting her instructions.

There won't be a next time, but I love your response to that situation.

**ILikeWatch** · 10-12-19 17:37

Originally Posted by Cinc34 [View Original Post]

On the 3rd interruption, you should have got up, dressed and departed.

That's exactly what I did.
Lmfao about the texting instructions.

**Cinc34** · 10-12-19 17:26

Originally Posted by GiDaddy [View Original Post]

What do you guys think about some these gals that asks for your real name, company name, work number, address, email, etc. For their screening purposes? Do some of you guys really give that info up? For me it's a big "fuck no! Recently that's what I have ran into with some the gals asking to do a screening. I always reply back "Sure I'll give you my info if you give me yours. Tell me your real name, address, and I know you don't have a corporate job so give me your facebook info as well so I can check you and your family out. " But the gals think that's not a fair request. It's only fair if they have an upper hand on you so they can easily ruin your career and your life LOL. Come on gals. Use some common sense. I know your worried about your safety but there's different ways to go about it. At end of the day you're in a business that has some danger associated with it whether you like it or not.

Absolutely too much information. It's called light screening. Not a background investigation.

**Cinc34** · 10-12-19 17:25

Originally Posted by Cincyjim [View Original Post]

Next time you're banging her, pull out your phone and start texting her instructions.

On the 3rd interruption, you should have got up, dressed and departed.

**TechSticles** · 10-12-19 15:59

Originally Posted by GiDaddy [View Original Post]

What do you guys think about some these gals that asks for your real name, company name, work number, address, email, etc. For their screening purposes? Do some of you guys really give that info up? For me it's a big "fuck no! Recently that's what I have ran into with some the gals asking to do a screening. I always reply back "Sure I'll give you my info if you give me yours. Tell me your real name, address, and I know you don't have a corporate job so give me your facebook info as well so I can check you and your family out. " But the gals think that's not a fair request. It's only fair if they have an upper hand on you so they can easily ruin your career and your life LOL. Come on gals. Use some common sense. I know your worried about your safety but there's different ways to go about it. At end of the day you're in a business that has some danger associated with it whether you like it or not.

I don't think anything about them at all since I'm not doing any of that shit. They are simply delusional if they believe I'm going to give that out to a hooker.

**Cincyjim** · 10-12-19 13:39

Originally Posted by ILikeWatch [View Original Post]

Had to share an experience that I had recently with a long time UTR. While she has never been great she is reliable and gets the job done. On my last visit we started with a BJ. She gets a text message and jumps up to read it. Strike one. She comes back and continues and another text message. She jumps up and looks at that one. Strike two. Things are quiet on the phone front and we are hitting it hard doggy. She is moaning and about to cum and another text. She reaches over and grabs the phone and to my amazement started texting while we were still coupled and she was ass up. Strike 3. I got disengaged and cleaned up and was told I had issues and got mad to easily. I'm still shaking my head but at least I'm laughing now.

Next time you're banging her, pull out your phone and start texting her instructions.