"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Truncated** · 08-06-19 05:26

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

So what do you guys do fo your summer SB who heads far away for college in the fall? Mine asked me today if was going to still help her by paying her an allowance while she was away. I told her that our arrangement was ppv and couldn't think of anything beneficial for me without her warm body next to mine. She offered Skype, vids, pics or phone sex. I told her I was way too old to be beating my meat while looking at her on a computer screen. That pissed her off and she said we can talk more later.

I just assumed we would get together over fall break and Christmas. I am not paying her an allowance while she is screwing college boys.

I've had this experience. SB wanted me to keep giving her $ over the summer while classes were out and she went to California for three months. I politely declined, and asked her if she had a local friend who might want to be my SB.

Keep in mind that, even though her request is absurd, it makes perfect sense to her. She's young and inexperienced, and doesn't understand that no P = no $.

I would cut her off, but also end it on a polite note.

There is a good chance she will come knocking again if you handle it that way and she comes back to town.

**JustLonely** · 08-05-19 19:18

So what do you guys do fo your summer SB who heads far away for college in the fall? Mine asked me today if was going to still help her by paying her an allowance while she was away. I told her that our arrangement was ppv and couldn't think of anything beneficial for me without her warm body next to mine. She offered Skype, vids, pics or phone sex. I told her I was way too old to be beating my meat while looking at her on a computer screen. That pissed her off and she said we can talk more later.

I just assumed we would get together over fall break and Christmas. I am not paying her an allowance while she is screwing college boys.

**TheEngine** · 08-05-19 14:50

Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]

I'm a programmer, and I spend a good portion of my time doing web development. I've noted that SA has been rewriting portions of their site from a traditional "click link, wait for server return the new page" style to a "single-page application" approach. Turns out that due to some rather silly programming choices on their part, it's actually possible to view the text content of messages even if you don't have premium time enabled.

It involves opening up your browser's "development tools" window so you can inspect the contents of the page and the data being requested, and should work in either Chrome or Firefox.

Log in to SA and go to your inbox. Right-click anywhere on the page and choose "Inspect Element". The browser's dev tools should either pop up as a separate window, or as part of the main window. Click on the "network" tab in the dev tools. Then, back in the SA inbox screen, click on a conversation.

If you go back to the "network" tab, you should see a list of all the data requests the SA page asked for from the server. One of them should look like "/ inbox? Page=1&limit=25". Click on that one. It'll show a bunch of technical details of some of the message headers.

Now, look for a tab called "Response". If you click on that, you should see a tree with sections like "status", "message", "conversation", and "metadata". Expand "conversation" "messages" "data". You should see some numbered entries, 0 and up. Those represent each of the messages in the conversation, from both of you. (Side note: the "metadata" object has a whole bunch of info that they know about your own account. Some of it is info you entered yourself, like profile info. There's also things like "payments_total", which appears to be how much you've actually ever paid SA, unread message count, whether you're in the EU, and even fields labeled "has_under_age_punishment" and "has_unacknowledged_punishment". Very interesting.)

Each message entry has a field called "body", which is the text that's shown in your inbox. If you've got premium active, it's the actual message text. If not, it's "Upgrade to read".

Here's where they did something silly. They send back the text that should be shown, but *they also send back the original text too*. So, even if the "body" field says "Upgrade to read", the "original_body" field shows the actual no-kidding message that was sent. You can inspect each of the messages that was received, and effectively read the conversation.

It's not a substitute for reading messages in the inbox as usual, but it might be helpful for anyone who gets a message when they don't have premium active and wants to peek at it without having to immediately shell out the cash to read it.

As a programmer, I can tell that there's actually a _ton_ of useful information being returned whenever you view a profile page or inbox page. It would be possible for someone to write a browser extension that either extracted some of that info from a page, or re-requested that data from the server, and did something useful with it (up to and including modifying an inbox to show all the messages without needing premium enabled). Sadly, I don't have time to work on anything like that myself. I've got a lot of other things on my plate.

Hope that helps!

This method no longer works on chrome and firefox on a windows pc.

**Madaboutmax** · 08-04-19 10:06

I agree with this. I've never seen a legitimate profile on Seeking of Duo. Most younger women today are interested in other women and are very open to 3 somes with a friend, another SB or stripper.

Originally Posted by TechSticles [View Original Post]

While a lot of those pairings might not be for real, I've found that the way to meet more SBs is through the ones you already have.

**Unassuming2018** · 08-04-19 08:22

This I agree with wholeheartedly.

Originally Posted by TechSticles [View Original Post]

While a lot of those pairings might not be for real, I've found that the way to meet more SBs is through the ones you already have.

**TechSticles** · 08-03-19 13:14

Originally Posted by Truncated [View Original Post]

I agree about the pair SB profiles.

Never encountered a pair who were legit or serious.

While a lot of those pairings might not be for real, I've found that the way to meet more SBs is through the ones you already have.

**Unassuming2018** · 08-03-19 12:13

Funny you guys mention that. Awhile back, I was seeing a girl off SA. After some time, her sister got on there. So of course, I had to ask. And yes, I did get to cross that off my bucket list. Obviously, they didn't interact, but it was still an incredible evening. Pricey, yes. But no regrets. But I second what you guys are saying. I steer clear of duo profiles for the reasons previously stated.

**Tidad** · 08-03-19 11:21

Originally Posted by Truncated [View Original Post]

I agree about the pair SB profiles.

Never encountered a pair who were legit or serious.

I've seen one legit SB duo in the last 25 years and even that one didn't work out. I had a VCU SB who presented me the chance to bang her and the roommate in an effort to get me to drop more $$. Unfortunately I wasn't into the roommate at all; honestly I would not have fucked her for free so paying extra money for pussy I didn't want was out of the question. After 2 or 3 weeks of my resistance, we went out separate ways.

**Truncated** · 08-03-19 05:34

Originally Posted by GregRichmond [View Original Post]

I always worry about when profile say they are in pair of two and will be happy to mingle. You never know what's the catch or if they will be honest and trustworthy. My rule of thumb- stay away from these profile that talks about 2 SB for one. ! Based on profile, it appears that way.

I agree about the pair SB profiles.

Never encountered a pair who were legit or serious.

**Walruscl** · 08-02-19 22:03

Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]

I wish we could upvote posts on this board. Red Pill and MGTOW boards have given me a much healthier mindset toward women and relationships. You do have to sort through a lot of spergy and immature crap (lots of young guys crying about why women are being mean or not fucking them) to find the good content but the good material is worth it. Changed my life, and continues to do so.

Agreed about all of the above. The immaturity can be annoying beyond measure, but there's good stuff to be uncovered there which will help you be grounded and in a leveraged frame of reference.

**GregRichmond** · 08-02-19 15:18

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

Waste of time. Good luck getting her clothes off.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9d0d...1-0a70b6e7afc0

I always worry about when profile say they are in pair of two and will be happy to mingle. You never know what's the catch or if they will be honest and trustworthy. My rule of thumb- stay away from these profile that talks about 2 SB for one. ! Based on profile, it appears that way.

**Sterling44** · 08-02-19 14:04

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

Waste of time. Good luck getting her clothes off.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9d0d...1-0a70b6e7afc0

I've seen her twice. Definitely a repeat. Reasonable allowance if she likes you. I guess she's very selective.

**BagIt** · 08-02-19 13:35

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

Waste of time. Good luck getting her clothes off.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9d0d...1-0a70b6e7afc0

Your inbox is full BTW.

**JustLonely** · 08-02-19 08:29

Waste of time. Good luck getting her clothes off.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9d0d...1-0a70b6e7afc0

**Kwagmire** · 08-02-19 07:57

Originally Posted by BlueEyedMan58 [View Original Post]

But still, I can't figure out why 4 days have now gone by and this woman hasn't even logged on the site. If she's looking for someone more generous than me, why isn't she back on? I'm assuming the SA function that shows when someone last logged on is reliable, and according to that she has not been on SA since our date ended. So, still weird.

Your mistake is that you're looking for and expecting logic in the mind and actions of a woman. Reminds me of Jack Nicholson's character from "As Good as It Gets":

Receptionist: How do you write women so well?

Melvin: I think of a man, and I take away reason and accountability.

Moral of the story: Move on. Meet other girls on SA, there are other fish in the sea. If this one comes back, cool, have sex with her. If not, have sex with someone else.

It may sound like I hate women, but I assure you that's not true. They're frustrating at times, but I love women, and accept them for who they are. You can't blame a scorpion for being a scorpion. It's in it's nature.