Trying this Sugar Baby thing.

[Qcguy]

Just a heads up of sorts: I posted in the Charlotte News & Media Thread about a Fox 46 report on SA / SBs.

Link to thread & story / video:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...375&viewfull=1#post4298375.

Please, put comments on the report in that thread, let's try to keep this thread for SB info. Thanks.

[ThunderBoat]

I only front money if I know the girl very well and we have been seeing each other for a while. Even then, it is 50/50. I had a few so grateful they paid me back in spades. I've had others disappear after a 9 month arrangement, was part of their "exit" plan if guess. Moral of the story, don't front anything you aren't willing to lose.

TB.

Or I have tried this one to very great effect when they ask "well I would be glad to help if let me come visit but I'm a little short before payday and only have $xx on me (about 2/3 to 3/4 of a normal visit. " I have never been turned down under those circumstances. Got some for as little as. 5 from several SBs, plus you get credit for helping in a moment of crisis.

[Queen City Guy]

Occasionally I have advanced money to girls I've seen several times. So they owe me a visit. A few of them pay it back even with services. So I tried turning the tables on them. How about if we do the deed then I hold back half of your money so I owe you. Somehow they think its OK for them to owe me, and not OK for me to owe them.

GB40.

Or I have tried this one to very great effect when they ask "well I would be glad to help if let me come visit but I'm a little short before payday and only have $xx on me (about 2/3 to 3/4 of a normal visit. " I have never been turned down under those circumstances. Got some for as little as. 5 from several SBs, plus you get credit for helping in a moment of crisis.

[Gigabyte40]

Closely akin to this scam is the "can I have an extra $x this time? I really need it to pay my phone bill or you won't be able to contact me any more (or some such thing) BUT I'll make it up to you next time (freebie, extras, more time, etc). ".

Usually the requests that I get are just plain flat out requests for money once someone feels comfortable enough, its not even about a pretense of 'verification' or any such thing.

I clearly tell them 'end of conversation' I'm glad to be a FWB but not money for nothing, not what I'm hear for. Funny as soon as I do that some of them 'go-off on me' and I actually suspect some / many of them are guys posing as women just to scam horny stupid men thinking they're talking to a 20 yo college girl.

Don't be fools.

Occasionally I have advanced money to girls I've seen several times. So they owe me a visit. A few of them pay it back even with services. So I tried turning the tables on them. How about if we do the deed then I hold back half of your money so I owe you. Somehow they think its OK for them to owe me, and not OK for me to owe them.

GB40.

[Bouinage]

The SB path requires more work but the rewards can be much better. My experience is that you have to do a lot of work on the SB path to find that perfect situation. I have 2 that are those "gems" that are not on the active market and worth all the time it took to find them. I have 1 other that wants to start an arrangement, I just don't have the time for 3. None want their info shared, I honor that request as I don't want my info posted anywhere. My SBs are available whenever I want them, no demons, showered and dressed as I like them, and spend whatever time I want, 30 minutes or 3 hrs. They are even both very reasonable on what they want from me. The pro route, much less work, but dreaming with a girl that has seen 2, 3, 4 or more others that day before me and stares at the clock or is not a GFE is of little interest. I don't like supporting habits and most of the pros have demons they are feeding. Figure out how to tell the pros, fake ads, and the time wasters minimize your time there and focus on the rest. May take a 1-2 months to find that gem, but well worth it in my opinion. Also, if you opening line is "how much to BLANK you", you are wasting your money on the SB sites. Build a rapport, go from there. I also do not pay for M&Gs or ever provide any assistance prior to both sides being satisfied.

Personally, I've stopped the Pros, I am SB only now.

TB.

Thunder,

Thanks for the input, I figured it would require patience and work, a good payoff normally does.

[AdamEve7]

The SB path requires more work but the rewards can be much better. My experience is that you have to do a lot of work on the SB path to find that perfect situation. I have 2 that are those "gems" that are not on the active market and worth all the time it took to find them. I have 1 other that wants to start an arrangement, I just don't have the time for 3. None want their info shared, I honor that request as I don't want my info posted anywhere. My SBs are available whenever I want them, no demons, showered and dressed as I like them, and spend whatever time I want, 30 minutes or 3 hrs. They are even both very reasonable on what they want from me. The pro route, much less work, but dreaming with a girl that has seen 2, 3, 4 or more others that day before me and stares at the clock or is not a GFE is of little interest. I don't like supporting habits and most of the pros have demons they are feeding. Figure out how to tell the pros, fake ads, and the time wasters minimize your time there and focus on the rest. May take a 1-2 months to find that gem, but well worth it in my opinion. Also, if you opening line is "how much to BLANK you", you are wasting your money on the SB sites. Build a rapport, go from there. I also do not pay for M&Gs or ever provide any assistance prior to both sides being satisfied.

Personally, I've stopped the Pros, I am SB only now.

TB.

Your experience sounded more like mine, I have similar kind of experience here in SB / SD game.

[ThunderBoat]

The SB path requires more work but the rewards can be much better. My experience is that you have to do a lot of work on the SB path to find that perfect situation. I have 2 that are those "gems" that are not on the active market and worth all the time it took to find them. I have 1 other that wants to start an arrangement, I just don't have the time for 3. None want their info shared, I honor that request as I don't want my info posted anywhere. My SBs are available whenever I want them, no demons, showered and dressed as I like them, and spend whatever time I want, 30 minutes or 3 hrs. They are even both very reasonable on what they want from me. The pro route, much less work, but dreaming with a girl that has seen 2, 3, 4 or more others that day before me and stares at the clock or is not a GFE is of little interest. I don't like supporting habits and most of the pros have demons they are feeding. Figure out how to tell the pros, fake ads, and the time wasters minimize your time there and focus on the rest. May take a 1-2 months to find that gem, but well worth it in my opinion. Also, if you opening line is "how much to BLANK you", you are wasting your money on the SB sites. Build a rapport, go from there. I also do not pay for M&Gs or ever provide any assistance prior to both sides being satisfied.

Personally, I've stopped the Pros, I am SB only now.

TB.

I have been debating on whether or not I want to get into the SB game, seems like it could be fun to deal with a non-pro for awhile. I have been mongering for so long I don't remember what its like to go on a real date lmao. However, after reading this thread for awhile, it sounds like most of the ladies on these sites are no better than pros's, they exhibit the same behavioral patterns and personalities, makes me wonder if they are not pros from another city that just haven't advertised on the pros websites. Has anybody had enough success to make joining these sites worth the cash? One site requested. 8 and I couldn't do it, all I could think of was for. 8 I can get guaranteed action with a pro! I read about the effort that yall put into meeting them, however, I know most mongers are going to keep the gems to themselves and not report on the open forum, to those that have had success: are they real, is it worth it, is dating or pros easier?

[Bouinage]

It's just an updated version of give me money for a room, come on my young mongers got to have some street smarts to play. Some SBs after you meet few days later they will text you wanting you to send them lunch money via WU or a cash app, tell them to get real you are not a ATM.

I have been debating on whether or not I want to get into the SB game, seems like it could be fun to deal with a non-pro for awhile. I have been mongering for so long I don't remember what its like to go on a real date lmao. However, after reading this thread for awhile, it sounds like most of the ladies on these sites are no better than pros's, they exhibit the same behavioral patterns and personalities, makes me wonder if they are not pros from another city that just haven't advertised on the pros websites. Has anybody had enough success to make joining these sites worth the cash? One site requested. 8 and I couldn't do it, all I could think of was for. 8 I can get guaranteed action with a pro! I read about the effort that yall put into meeting them, however, I know most mongers are going to keep the gems to themselves and not report on the open forum, to those that have had success: are they really non-pros, is it worth it? Does the frustration get outweighed by the benefits or do you end up back with pros? I understand that it takes more work than calling up a pro. Any input is appreciated.

[Queen City Guy]

Closely akin to this scam is the "can I have an extra $x this time? I really need it to pay my phone bill or you won't be able to contact me any more (or some such thing) BUT I'll make it up to you next time (freebie, extras, more time, etc). ".

Usually the requests that I get are just plain flat out requests for money once someone feels comfortable enough, its not even about a pretense of 'verification' or any such thing.

I clearly tell them 'end of conversation' I'm glad to be a FWB but not money for nothing, not what I'm hear for. Funny as soon as I do that some of them 'go-off on me' and I actually suspect some / many of them are guys posing as women just to scam horny stupid men thinking they're talking to a 20 yo college girl.

Don't be fools.

[Crewzin]

Biggest scam going right now. On all the dating sights as well. I hope no one falls for it.

It's just an updated version of give me money for a room, come on my young mongers got to have some street smarts to play. Some SBs after you meet few days later they will text you wanting you to send them lunch money via WU or a cash app, tell them to get real you are not a ATM.

[Mravcapo69]

No I never do give anything in advance. But I thought perhaps this is a new trend starting, and being more accepted as a norm. I am glad to hear from all of you guys, that we're all on the same page still. This scamming shall pass eventually, as long as most of us don't fall for it.

Don't ever ever send money in advance. You won't see it again. I would not use cashapp, venmo, apple pay or any other method in advance. I avoid Western Union and Moneygram.

Keep your money to yourself until the girl gives you what you want first.

GB40.

[Gigabyte40]

Most of these chicks want cash transfer via CashApp. The whole thing can be unanimously transferred by try to convince me that after they receive cash, they will send their contact info and the address. I just don't buy into that BS. Once they get the cash, they will most likely vanish. I would like to hear from some other fellow mongers, if they ever had a positive experience of actually meeting with someone after they sent them the "deposit. ".

Don't ever ever send money in advance. You won't see it again. I would not use cashapp, venmo, apple pay or any other method in advance. I avoid Western Union and Moneygram.

Keep your money to yourself until the girl gives you what you want first.

GB40.

[Backlash]

Most of these chicks want cash transfer via CashApp. The whole thing can be unanimously transferred by try to convince me that after they receive cash, they will send their contact info and the address. I just don't buy into that BS. Once they get the cash, they will most likely vanish. I would like to hear from some other fellow mongers, if they ever had a positive experience of actually meeting with someone after they sent them the "deposit. ".

Biggest scam going right now. On all the dating sights as well. I hope no one falls for it.

[Mravcapo69]

Most of these chicks want cash transfer via CashApp. The whole thing can be unanimously transferred by try to convince me that after they receive cash, they will send their contact info and the address. I just don't buy into that BS. Once they get the cash, they will most likely vanish. I would like to hear from some other fellow mongers, if they ever had a positive experience of actually meeting with someone after they sent them the "deposit. ".

If these girls want to verify a real person by receiving a deposit, then it should matter how much you deposit. If you told then you were going to deposit $0. 05 in her account, she'd get the assurances she needs. If she's looking to scam then she's going to want more. BTW, PayPal makes two small deposits when verify a new bank account as you probably know.

[Mravcapo69]

Ha, interesting. She also gave me an address, not in Pineville, but over in Steel Creek area. I am not sure what her game is, but I don't think I'll take my chances with this one. Too fishy for my taste. One of her pics looks like she used to work in Tilted Kit. I know it's been a long time, but come to think of it, I think I used to see s skinny little black hair long girl working there. Than again, it's been long, so all of them blend into a one blurry image LOL. Just to keep the track of who the lady is we're talking about, here is the link again.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9c23a...1-45530dee98bc

She text me couple times a week, always wanting to meet on short notice with a small time frame, always inconvenient, wants $ for the hour gave me a Pineville apt address. I'd TOFT but seems like a real gamer to me.