Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[SevenInche]

If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm thrusting up in her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.

The one time I saw Star / Nova she went straight from BJ to mounting me BB. It happened so fast I didn't even notice until I was already inside her. Felt so epic I just kept going, but didn't nut inside her. Never saw her again because it was a rush job. She even bragged she usually had her quick visits out the door in 15 and hhrs out the door in 20. She was naked before I had my shoes off.

[JonHangcok]

If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.

If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm thrusting up in her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.

[JonHangcok]

If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.

If I knew exactly how she did it, I would've told her to stop. My best guess is she unrolled it while simultaneously fondling my junk while I was pounding her all at the same time. The rubber comes off inside her, and since I'm still fucking her, it gets pushed up inside. Once again this is my best guess. I was too preoccupied with busting a nut so I wasn't paying full attention to everything she was doing. Plus I never thought a woman would pull some shit like that, so I never thought to look out for that sort of thing.

[Joelcmh]

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

If she pulled it off why was it inside her? Weird that she would just stash it there.

[Spinman]

Jon. I appreciated your report. Don't change what you are doing. It was well written and informative.

I just wish I knew who she was, but giving that out isn't a good idea, some white night would be running to her and running his mouth, I learned a long time ago that happens way to much.

Johnhangcok has been a solid contributor for a long time, so even if I didn't care for the post, I wouldn't have said anything, he gets a pass in my book. It was a really good detailed report, as you said INFORMATIVE.

[Cherny]

If I needed a proofreader I wouldn't be coming on here for that. It was a unique experience that I thought was worth sharing on the board because I had never read any accounts or experiences on here quite like that. I thought context was needed for anyone reading who may not know the gravity of the situation I was in (sharing info is what this board is about) hence the lengthy writing. If "flexing" is all that you got out of that long ass post, well thats on you I guess. You missed the forest for the trees.

Jon. I appreciated your report. Don't change what you are doing. It was well written and informative.

[JonHangcok]

Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.

If I needed a proofreader I wouldn't be coming on here for that. It was a unique experience that I thought was worth sharing on the board because I had never read any accounts or experiences on here quite like that. I thought context was needed for anyone reading who may not know the gravity of the situation I was in (sharing info is what this board is about) hence the lengthy writing. If "flexing" is all that you got out of that long ass post, well thats on you I guess. You missed the forest for the trees.

[Sir LanceLicksalot]

First of all E.M. is a provider centric site so this kind of behavior is not that uncommon. I feel that their stealing reviews is just another symptom of that bias. Post a good review from another site makes "their" women more desirable, increasing the woman's business and validating why the women need to be on E.M. to be successful.

USASG is the opposite, it is hobbyist centric. Men post all kinds of stuff about the women, but the women have no recourse to defend themselves without being lambasted about their post or labeled as having GPS.

There is no even ground. Other sites have men and women's only forums. In those men can post what they want openly. Women can discuss bad dates or warn other women about time wasters, unhygienic customers or just vent about BS posts about them.

One site that I use keeps the juicy part of reviews private to just to it's Senior male members. It allows for more truthful and informative posts. The women just see that they are or are not recommended. This site elevates men to their "Premium" level with reviews. That promotes the sharing of information and rewards those who post.

There is no perfect free escort site. I support all of them that are in my area of interest. That is all anyone can do. You just have to understand the limitations of their "personalities".

I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

[ArtWater]

I have to redact my redaction. E. M. Deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as c**t, b* s**t or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much it is (read the thread topic, dude, if you don't like the topic, don't read it). I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

[ArtWater]

I have to redact my redaction. Them deleted my review AGAIN, this time for "any review that slams or denigrates a provider, nor will we post reviews that contain such derogatory terms such as ****, *****, **** or any other wording that we deem inappropriate or hurtful. " Really didn't put anything that harsh in it, certainly didn't use any derogatory language, it was simply a fair review, just a tad nicer than the one I posted here. It was fine for them before when they approved it, what suddenly changed? "Slams or denigrates" could loosely apply to any negative review. I've been exchanging emails with someone over there, I assume it's some kind of manager, he had said he thought my review was good. Nonetheless, someone there keeps deleting it, unless it's an automated kind of deal / button the provider can click on. He asked me to resubmit and said he would look into it. Not being bitchy or whiny about it, I'm just kind of curious about the process, and it's worth restating if it helps keep somebody else from getting scammed. Can't really afford to let this b. S. Fly on the high end, too much is lost without many places for reliable reviews, if we say this is ok then who knows what kinda crap they'll pull next. The way I see it, we pay for this not to happen, that's why it's high end.

On a separate but related note, I don't post or see as many high end reviews as I'd like to because there's always someone rolling their eyes over how much. I don't argue because A2 makes it generally clear that's not allowed, but it's discouraging. I and many others have our reasons for what we do, and I'm probably not going to spell it out for you because I talk too much as it is.

[FlickerFly07]

Jesus, pretty detailed an account for simply saying "a provider took my condom off during sex. " Looks more like you wanted us to proofread your letter to Penthouse. Weird flex, bro, but okay.

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

[Discreet614]

Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?

5th and High Out of the Closet Thrift Store They provide some of the best information and STD checks. It's much better than going to the Franklin County health Department. I know you're thinking thrift store? But they operate the health clinic from the sales at the thrift shop as well as donations. Very professional very clean very good experience overall.

https://outofthecloset.org/testing/

[Member #6308]

honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

Where does one go to get anonymous STD checks / treatment?

Can you post the girl's info or is she UTR?

[JonHangcok]

For starters, for those of you who don't know, non-consensual condom removal, or "stealthing", is the practice of one sex partner (usually the guy) covertly removing a condom, when sexual consent has only been given by the other sex partner for condom-protected safer sex. In other countries like the UK and Switzerland, men have been convicted for sexual assault and rape for doing this underhanded shit. The US doesn't have laws established specifically for stealthing, but it can be considered "rape adjacent" or akin to rape.

Now I myself would never stoop so low as to pull some underhanded shit like this with any woman be they a provider, or GF, wife, etc. I've busted condoms and had them come off while in the throes of passion before, I'm usually good about noticing these things, and I've always either stopped the engagement myself, or stopped when the woman noticed it before I did to re-up with a new condom before going at it again. So imagine my surprise when I find out a provider stealthed me.

To give some brief context to the encounter, we got right into it from the moment I shut the front door of her incall. At first I though she was just trying to give a PSE type of performance, but I soon realized that she was honestly really into it. We start to go at it right there in the living room. She puts the condom on me with her mouth and then immediately hops on it for some CG without me even having to ask. She rides for a while, hops off, takes the condom off and sucks me some more. She then says she wants to take it to the bedroom, so she leads me by the cock to her bed and I throw on another condom and we got at it some more. She wasn't a clock watcher at all. In fact during our session she asked me if MSOG was OK. I hadn't even busted my first nut yet and she's asking me for seconds already. Having a povider ask me this, hell actually wanting this was totally unheard of to me in all my time of being in this hobby.

To make a long story short, I've got her in K9 position face down-ass up and I'm going to pound town on her. She likes it hard, fast, and deep, so I'm complying to her wishes. She was doing this thing where she'd reach back underneath and play with my balls. I tell her to keep doing that because I'm liking it, so she complies. In hindsight I'm guessing that it was around this time that she was able to remove the condom while I'm plugging away at her pussy. After some time I bust one of the most intense nuts that I've had in a long time while "wearing a condom" (I thought it was still on at this point). The fact that I hadn't had any sexual activity in like 3 weeks was also a contributing factor. Now I don't cum often when wearing a condom, I have but its few and far between. Couple that with my endurance (I think I'm related to the Energizer rabbit), and I usually just have a provider BBBJ and jerk me to completion when I feel the session is getting too close to the end. So I thought it a welcome surprise when it happened. That welcome surprise turned to horror when I pulled out and saw there was no condom on me.

I said: "WTF!? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CONDOM? She just nonchalantly says: "Oh, I pulled that off a few minutes ago. " "I do that when I get really into it. " She then sticks a couple fingers in her pussy and pulls out the rubber. I'm dumbfounded and speechless at this point that she was just so matter of fact about it. She says something else that I'm not going to repeat publicly on this board (PM me if you just have to know what she said) but what she said just added to how carefree she was about it all. She gave absolutely 0 fucks. I mean I know I dropped a big load in her; and she's not afraid of possibly getting pregnant? The whole time that I'm cleaning up and we're talking I'm just thinking "WTF? I leave soon after.

So IMO I consider stealthing as a form of rape even if US law isn't totally clear about it. But lets keep it real, US law is completely ass backwards about a lot of things so it's no surprise it would be about this. So was I raped? Yes I believe I was, because it would definitely be considered rape if the roles were reversed. Now I don't feel like its your typical garden variety rape, she didn't overpower me and force me to fuck her. She didn't violate me in that way. It's more of a violation of trust, and a violation of one's well being. Because now I have to get checked out which I didn't really have to do because I'm pretty careful about these things (honestly if you're in this hobby you should be doing this regularly).

Anyway my bad for the wall of text. TL; DR: A provider pulled my condom off without my knowledge while we were fucking, effectively stealthing me. I ended up giving her a creampie. She gave 0 fucks about the whole thing, and now I have to go to a clinic and get checked out.

[LiveMonger]

Here's the way to avoid all the scammers and not have to sift through all the out of town area codes: Just put 614 in the search box and only girls advertising with local numbers will appear. However, there will still some scammers among them, but it will narrow it down significantly.

I also search under 740 ac to get the ones from outside 614.