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Pay for Performance. Carrie
Originally Posted by SammyG
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Ok, well there are many not for profit programs and government programs that they can access to help them from their situation. Also, plenty of drug rehab programs, support groups and faith based ministries to help people in their situation. Yep there are captain save a ho and white knight guys willing to help out too. So, there are many many ways for them to get out. The old saying goes "where there is a will there is a way" . If they have the sincere desire for change. They will make it happen. A neighbor of mine survived the holocaust and spent 2 years in a concentration camp and came to this country with nothing. If my neighbor was able to escape the nazis and have a successful career. Then a provider with plenty of help can leave the "life". It is very much up to the individual to make up their mind to want to change ,consciously forsake their old ways and get the help needed....then they will be successful.
I still remember the first time that I seen Carrie over on the west side Blanding / Wilson. She quoted me a price and I mentioned it was higher than what I had been told she was accepting and she just replied "How about if you pay what you think it's worth?" After the session, I paid more than she was initially asking and it was well worth it. That's the way it should be done.
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Originally Posted by GoofyTerf
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As I grow older and sometimes wiser, I'm reminded why someone like Midwest Monique appeals to me so much. We make an arrangement which suits both parties, fun is had by both, and then we both go about our business. No drama, no crazy boyfriends / handlers, no potential crime scenes. Thank you Monique!
You've convinced me. I'm going to pay her a visit.
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Originally Posted by SammyG
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Ok, well there are many not for profit programs and government programs that they can access to help them from their situation. Also, plenty of drug rehab programs, support groups and faith based ministries to help people in their situation. Yep there are captain save a ho and white knight guys willing to help out too. So, there are many many ways for them to get out. The old saying goes "where there is a will there is a way" . If they have the sincere desire for change. They will make it happen. A neighbor of mine survived the holocaust and spent 2 years in a concentration camp and came to this country with nothing. If my neighbor was able to escape the nazis and have a successful career. Then a provider with plenty of help can leave the "life". It is very much up to the individual to make up their mind to want to change ,consciously forsake their old ways and get the help needed....then they will be successful.
Not sure what the white night is but what I think they do is either move from 1 cpn save a ho to another with $ which is rarely the case or works, or a poor cpn with a huge poor redneck family that shelter them both, or more often than not, a family of or one db. Just my opinion from what I can decifer over past few years when one appears to have retired. These government or private funded programs only there for a short time so none of that usually works. Theres always cold turkey. LOL. Your neighbor shouldve just moved back to his home country and saved us all the heartache and its got nothing to do with the hobby.
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Plenty of programs for them
Originally Posted by RedTalon
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You are assuming that most are independents and drug free, which they aren't. They aren't doing this because the money is good, they are doing it as it's the only thing they are capable of doing. Between drug boy pimps, drug habits and felony records they really don't have a chance for a normal life. Very few get out and if they do it's because they are white knighted and move far away from influences that can drag them back in.
Ok, well there are many not for profit programs and government programs that they can access to help them from their situation. Also, plenty of drug rehab programs, support groups and faith based ministries to help people in their situation. Yep there are captain save a ho and white knight guys willing to help out too. So, there are many many ways for them to get out. The old saying goes "where there is a will there is a way" . If they have the sincere desire for change. They will make it happen. A neighbor of mine survived the holocaust and spent 2 years in a concentration camp and came to this country with nothing. If my neighbor was able to escape the nazis and have a successful career. Then a provider with plenty of help can leave the "life". It is very much up to the individual to make up their mind to want to change ,consciously forsake their old ways and get the help needed....then they will be successful.
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Originally Posted by Ccdap
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I just wish the labor market in this sector was tighter. Perhaps it would be easier to hire a descent servicer. Maybe we should start offering performace incentives around amount of time? "Here is for 30 minutes but if I finish in 20 minutes I'll throw in another. ".
Yeah, good idea. Pay for performance! If they don't perform how you think they should. Well they should be given a much lesser amount than the standard donation. If they say ok 150 for a hh. Ok well if their performance is subpar or they give horrible service give them subpar donations. Like maybe 40. Heck, when you eat at a restaurant and you are not happy with the food or service. Tell the waitress or waiter about it and leave a crap tip. I love that idea you suggested. Yeah the hobbyists are too thirsty, will take a bunch of crap off these chicks and some seek the endless void of female validation, I believe this is why the labor market isn't tight enough. Again, wonderful idea and I do believe that it will surely work well.
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Originally Posted by SammyG
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In a provider's mind, it is just another job where they show up and punch a time clock (making more per hour or the same as a Doctor or a high profile lawyer or NASA engineer). They are there on their "dates" to do a job by providing a service and not because they think that the guy is hot, attractive or even interesting. Just as any service job or any physical job, people do develop job related injuries and to prevent on the job injuries people are encouraged to take safety measures. Maybe, certain positions such as CG are ergonomically unsound (perhaps rough on the spine and knees). On the other hand, providers love the money because it is excellent money (5 grand a week or some clear 20 grand a week, call 1-800-BS if they complain about the wage gap or having loads of financial problems) but they absolutely hate their job and totally despise the guys that use their services. Thus, providers put in very little effort as possible because they tend to have poor work ethic anyways just as any lazy employee or contractor on the job. A lazy employee or contractor on the job will make up any excuses possible about why they can't perform. Providers are the same way.
I agree with everything you said bro. I don't know how many times a girl gave me some bs about not being able to do something. But 5 grand a week? Shit them girls have to see 90 plus men to 5 grand if they are making $60 per date. And that's if they are seeing that many guys a week.
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I don't think so
Originally Posted by RedTalon
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You are assuming that most are independents and drug free, which they aren't. They aren't doing this because the money is good, they are doing it as it's the only thing they are capable of doing. Between drug boy pimps, drug habits and felony records they really don't have a chance for a normal life. Very few get out and if they do it's because they are white knighted and move far away from influences that can drag them back in.
This is certainly true for most. But again, I've only seen riverside Gina, bbw Jess, and PAWG diamond. All 3 of which are veterans and have no management from what I know. Gina and Jess where amazing fun. I've wanted to see Gina again and again from my first visit. I just can't do the laziness when they make more money than fucking doctors. I don't see many girls. I am very selective to try and pick the "good" ones who also enjoy what they do on some level.
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Yes I am
Originally Posted by Parabola1984
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Are you referring to the PAWG Diamond? If so was majorly disappointed when I saw her.
Yes PAWG diamond. She is gorgeous. A little bigger than her pics lead on but I prefer thicker girls so I was more than happy with her looks. But the BJ was covered despite what reviews led on. It was a MAJOR buzz kill. And she certainly had skills there but there was no variation in her technique. I'm not a huge fan of bjs anyhow (to be honest, bbw Jess was the only good BJ I've ever had in my life) wouldn't get on top either. Major buzz kill. I wouldn't even expect a chick to get on top the whole time I just expect some fun if I'm paying that kind of money. It was just mish and doggie. Boring. Got the job done but it was very lackluster.
It was like 5 am though so I'll give her that. Maybe it would have been better at a more reasonable hour?
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Time to play today
Have a whole day with the wife out of town, thinking about seeing a few new ones. Any good or bad on these.
http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...e/440085871019
http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...n/016854865531
http://jacksonville.skipthegames.com...y/616488931299
PM is fine. Thanks and let's make it a great day. For me!!
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Incorrect
Originally Posted by SammyG
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In a provider's mind, it is just another job where they show up and punch a time clock (making more per hour or the same as a Doctor or a high profile lawyer or NASA engineer). They are there on their "dates" to do a job by providing a service and not because they think that the guy is hot, attractive or even interesting. Just as any service job or any physical job, people do develop job related injuries and to prevent on the job injuries people are encouraged to take safety measures. Maybe, certain positions such as CG are ergonomically unsound (perhaps rough on the spine and knees). On the other hand, providers love the money because it is excellent money (5 grand a week or some clear 20 grand a week, call 1-800-BS if they complain about the wage gap or having loads of financial problems) but they absolutely hate their job and totally despise the guys that use their services. Thus, providers put in very little effort as possible because they tend to have poor work ethic anyways just as any lazy employee or contractor on the job. A lazy employee or contractor on the job will make up any excuses possible about why they can't perform. Providers are the same way.
You are assuming that most are independents and drug free, which they aren't. They aren't doing this because the money is good, they are doing it as it's the only thing they are capable of doing. Between drug boy pimps, drug habits and felony records they really don't have a chance for a normal life. Very few get out and if they do it's because they are white knighted and move far away from influences that can drag them back in.
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Couldn't agree more!
Originally Posted by SammyG
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In a provider's mind, it is just another job where they show up and punch a time clock (making more per hour or the same as a Doctor or a high profile lawyer or NASA engineer). They are there on their "dates" to do a job by providing a service and not because they think that the guy is hot, attractive or even interesting. Just as any service job or any physical job, people do develop job related injuries and to prevent on the job injuries people are encouraged to take safety measures. Maybe, certain positions such as CG are ergonomically unsound (perhaps rough on the spine and knees). On the other hand, providers love the money because it is excellent money (5 grand a week or some clear 20 grand a week, call 1-800-BS if they complain about the wage gap or having loads of financial problems) but they absolutely hate their job and totally despise the guys that use their services. Thus, providers put in very little effort as possible because they tend to have poor work ethic anyways just as any lazy employee or contractor on the job. A lazy employee or contractor on the job will make up any excuses possible about why they can't perform. Providers are the same way.
I just wish the labor market in this sector was tighter. Perhaps it would be easier to hire a descent servicer. Maybe we should start offering performace incentives around amount of time? "Here is for 30 minutes but if I finish in 20 minutes I'll throw in another. ".
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Labor pains
Originally Posted by Parabola1984
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Are you referring to the PAWG Diamond? If so was majorly disappointed when I saw her.
In a provider's mind, it is just another job where they show up and punch a time clock (making more per hour or the same as a Doctor or a high profile lawyer or NASA engineer). They are there on their "dates" to do a job by providing a service and not because they think that the guy is hot, attractive or even interesting. Just as any service job or any physical job, people do develop job related injuries and to prevent on the job injuries people are encouraged to take safety measures. Maybe, certain positions such as CG are ergonomically unsound (perhaps rough on the spine and knees). On the other hand, providers love the money because it is excellent money (5 grand a week or some clear 20 grand a week, call 1-800-BS if they complain about the wage gap or having loads of financial problems) but they absolutely hate their job and totally despise the guys that use their services. Thus, providers put in very little effort as possible because they tend to have poor work ethic anyways just as any lazy employee or contractor on the job. A lazy employee or contractor on the job will make up any excuses possible about why they can't perform. Providers are the same way.
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Ditto.
Originally Posted by GoofyTerf
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As I grow older and sometimes wiser, I'm reminded why someone like Midwest Monique appeals to me so much. We make an arrangement which suits both parties, fun is had by both, and then we both go about our business. No drama, no crazy boyfriends / handlers, no potential crime scenes. Thank you Monique!
A pros pro. I've reviewed her on other websites and she's as good as you can ask for. I'm kind of new to Jax and this site but seasoned otherwise. Message me if you want Monique details. She's legit.
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Diamond
Originally Posted by HoboTwitch
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These chicks are something. I've personally have only seen 3. Riverside Gina, BBW Jess before she disappeared and Diamond. Diamond did the whole "I can't do CG" thing as well. It's ridiculous. For what they charge, they expect to just lay there or bend over and do absolutely nothing the whole time. What's really funny is they all have bad knees or bad backs or some shit. Like they've ever worked a day in there lives?
Bbw Jess and riverside Gina were amazing compared to some of these stories I read. They both went above and beyond to please and make sure we had a great time.
Sorry LOL rant over.
Are you referring to the PAWG Diamond? If so was majorly disappointed when I saw her.
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