"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[DogBert77]

Alright, let's talk about sob stories. Do any of you dumb fucks believe any the sob stories you're served? Surely some must otherwise why would they keep trying?
.......Now do any of you guys fall for this shit? The broken cars, the thefts, the hospital bills, etc.

I would say yes and no.

Yes, I actually do believe that a lot of these girls have pretty crazy lives, are irresponsible, and have a lot of bad shit happen to them. No, I don't let my belief or disbelief affect the amount or timing of what I give them. I give them a modest donation AFTER I have had sex with them. I don't mind whether they use the whole amount to get their nails done at the most expensive salon in town, or to bail their deadbeat dad out of jail, or whatever. If they need more, we need to schedule another visit, assuming their performance warrants it. I don't pay more per visit, and I don't pay in advance. If my donation can help them with their run of bad luck, great, everybody is happy. If their misfortunes are so monumental that incremental donations are of no use? Next!

My take on the whole thing is that at the end of the day, of course it's a financial transaction. If you met the same girl behind the counter of your local coffee shop, are you going to give her $400 for a $4 latte because her car got towed that morning? I do everything I can not to rub their noses in the financial realities, in the hope and expectation that they will provide an experience that doesn't feel transactional, but none of that changes how much or when they get paid.

[EvilTmp]

Alright, let's talk about sob stories. Do any of you dumb fucks believe any the sob stories you're served? Surely some must otherwise why would they keep trying?

So I met a girl for a drink a few weeks ago and touched base yesterday just to chat. Lo and behold she launches in this long winded fake story about a string of supposed bad luck in her life and family blah blah blah my dad is in jail blah blah blah and her car broke down blah blah. The story seemed made up and without digging in I could tell it had plenty of holes. A few things didn't add up and I got the feeling she was fishing for a whale of a white-knight (you know, a moron with money). She claims all this happened over a few months. I met her a couple of weeks ago and none of this was mentioned. Wished her luck and moved on.

Now do any of you guys fall for this shit? The broken cars, the thefts, the hospital bills, etc.

[Missingcr1]

I have not tried the card for SA since early last year when it was rejected multiple times. Struck out using it for Secret Benefits last week and assumed it would still be the case with SA. Will get a new OneVanilla card and try it this week.

Your right Lucky, WYP can be frustrating. WYP does not have the selection, but at least you don't have the clock running like you do with a one month membership at SA. I typically get 450 credits for $150. The trick is to try to offer like $49 for the first date, as that is only 10 credits. If you could do that you would get to talk to 45 girls. If you have to work up from there go to $99, as that is only 15 credits. Once you start talking with the young lady then you can agree to what type of date you both want and how much you are really going to help, which for me always starts at $$ and might move up for someone really special. Some of the girls just don't get it and will only agree to a date offer of like $$ to $$$ which significantly increases the number of credits you are spending. Anyone can feel free to pm if you have any questions.

I have met up for fun with well over a dozen women from WYP, including many that started off platonic only, just takes a lot of patience and luck, and keeping as many hooks in the water as you can. If you don't have the time it could get quickly frustrating.

Forgot to mention, WYP has actually been pretty good about refunding credits, doing it at least 10 times over the last two years. If I start messaging a girl and she states that she wants the money sent in advance or is a pic/video girl only and doesn't meet, I will report her to WYP (just a matter of flagging her on her profile and in your comments to WYP state that you made her a legitimate offer and she had no intention of actually meeting, and you would like your credits back). As long as the whole conversation is on WYP the majority of the time they will refund your credits. More of a pain if you have switched over to texting. They refunded credits twice to me in last two weeks, which will now allow me to talk to two more girls...

Hmm, I used a OneVanilla card (pre-paid, Visa, non-reloadable) for SA two weeks ago, and it wasn't a problem. I hope that something hadn't changed since then.

I've never been able to use a OneVanilla card for Secret Benefits, either -- I got the same reason (international charge).

[RegularJoe1985]

Hmm, I used a OneVanilla card (pre-paid, Visa, non-reloadable) for SA two weeks ago, and it wasn't a problem. I hope that something hadn't changed since then.

I've never been able to use a OneVanilla card for Secret Benefits, either -- I got the same reason (international charge).

So, perhaps should look at one that says. OneVanilla. I see OneVanilla, MyVanilla, VanillaPrepaid. Are they the same darn company?

Could perhaps one type of card of theirs work and not others and hence different experience of different folks?

Too darn confusing for a simple thing as making payment.

[EumYang]

I use a OneVanilla Visa card bought at CVS to pay for my WYP membership without a problem. However, when I try to use one for SA or Secret Benefits it gets rejected (even after registering the zip code). I called OneVanilla last week when this happened and they said it was rejected because it was an international charge. Would love to figure out how to pay for SA without using a personal cc.

Hmm, I used a OneVanilla card (pre-paid, Visa, non-reloadable) for SA two weeks ago, and it wasn't a problem. I hope that something hadn't changed since then.

I've never been able to use a OneVanilla card for Secret Benefits, either -- I got the same reason (international charge).

[JustLonely]

I have had some luck on WYP, including an incredible current sb, but overall when you compare the two I feel like I am still scouting in the minors. I talked to a young lady, who seemed like a veteran at 19, LOL, and she told me the interface and responses were much better on SA than WYP, so she rarely even checks her WYP account.

WYP sucks most of the time. I finally said the hell with it. Just because a girl accepts your offer, you still need game to get her to actually go out with you. A lot never even respond past first message. Wasted money there for maybe 3 FC visits in the four years of using it. Two of the three showed up on SA soon after I had seen them thru WYP.

[Missingcr1]

I use a OneVanilla Visa card bought at CVS to pay for my WYP membership without a problem. However, when I try to use one for SA or Secret Benefits it gets rejected (even after registering the zip code). I called OneVanilla last week when this happened and they said it was rejected because it was an international charge. Would love to figure out how to pay for SA without using a personal cc.

I have had some luck on WYP, including an incredible current sb, but overall when you compare the two I feel like I am still scouting in the minors. I talked to a young lady, who seemed like a veteran at 19, LOL, and she told me the interface and responses were much better on SA than WYP, so she rarely even checks her WYP account.

I use OneVanilla gift cards, sometime Visa sometime MasterCard, bought at either CVS or Walmart. I just go on OneVanilla's website and register a zip code. Never had a problem.

[DogBert77]

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However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


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GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

I use OneVanilla gift cards, sometime Visa sometime MasterCard, bought at either CVS or Walmart. I just go on OneVanilla's website and register a zip code. Never had a problem.

[InTight]

Hello,

Looked at some posts here that mentioned that one can pay SA membership using Visa / MC / Amex gift cards.

SA also has in their faq:

Can I use a prepaid credit, debit, or gift card to pay for a premium membership?
Yes, please be sure that:
Your prepaid card is fully activated by following the instructions enclosed with the card (if applicable).
You use the same zip code as you registered with your card during the checkout process.
You use a valid name and do not use a name such as "Gift Card".
You use a valid address.
You use a valid phone number.

If you still cannot process your prepaid card, please contact us by using the "report an issue" button at the bottom of this page, with the full card info and zip code and we'll be glad to run the card through our alternate provider.


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However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


=============================================
GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

Others here swear that a Plain Vanilla Visa gift card will work It didn't for me so I used Bitcoin and it worked just fine everything anonymous.

[RegularJoe1985]

Hello,

Looked at some posts here that mentioned that one can pay SA membership using Visa / MC / Amex gift cards.

SA also has in their faq:

Can I use a prepaid credit, debit, or gift card to pay for a premium membership?
Yes, please be sure that:
Your prepaid card is fully activated by following the instructions enclosed with the card (if applicable).
You use the same zip code as you registered with your card during the checkout process.
You use a valid name and do not use a name such as "Gift Card".
You use a valid address.
You use a valid phone number.

If you still cannot process your prepaid card, please contact us by using the "report an issue" button at the bottom of this page, with the full card info and zip code and we'll be glad to run the card through our alternate provider.


==========================================
However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


=============================================
GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

[UVAHooCru99]

If you read the article SA just gave them stats on the top 20 schools with the most coed SBs registered. This is easy for them to provide because any SB that registers with an at. Edu email gets premium perks.

I don't have any firsthand experience because I only pursue out of town SB's, but reading this thread I propose VCU is top 20 in SB that go to FC!

Keep in mind it's one of the largest college in Virginia (over 24,000 students, & plenty of coeds (61%.

IMHO my ex LTSB went to the school with the hottest coeds on the left coast, The University of Carolina Wilmington. I went on campus one day to put a present in her car when she was in class. I didn't see anything but gorgeous coeds! OMG, she was sooo
stunning!

I told her later, "what do you guys do, round up all the ugly girls & bus them to Smith & Radcliffe? (Exclusive Woman's colleges in Mass for carpet munchers!)

%100 spot on my man! Div 2/3 schools are where it's at. Just as hot of girls but even more fun ready because most come from some bfe town and middle of nowhere (grade 13 basically) and those colleges are mostly girls with little competition from guys in area. JMU / VCU prime examples. Those girls are also more inclined to b reasonable w numbers as they haven't experienced gps yet from some sucka that just throws the bank at them not thinking w right head. I get WVU being on there probably a lot Pittsburgh area daddy's come down there and oil industry guys and Morgantown looking for full set teeth.

[DoggieFan]

New York Post put up SA's top 20. No Virginia school this year.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/the-co...es-in-america/

If you read the article SA just gave them stats on the top 20 schools with the most coed SBs registered. This is easy for them to provide because any SB that registers with an at. Edu email gets premium perks.

I don't have any firsthand experience because I only pursue out of town SB's, but reading this thread I propose VCU is top 20 in SB that go to FC!

Keep in mind it's one of the largest college in Virginia (over 24,000 students, & plenty of coeds (61%.

IMHO my ex LTSB went to the school with the hottest coeds on the left coast, The University of Carolina Wilmington. I went on campus one day to put a present in her car when she was in class. I didn't see anything but gorgeous coeds! OMG, she was sooo
stunning!

I told her later, "what do you guys do, round up all the ugly girls & bus them to Smith & Radcliffe? (Exclusive Woman's colleges in Mass for carpet munchers!)

[PartyTimeGuy]

She was super hot but really not that great a lay, at least first time, but would've repeated to see if it improved without the money stunt at the end. I honestly don't know if it was a strategy or inexperience.

In my experience a girl does what she does independent of the money. A girl's sexual performance quotient seems to be stamped in her DNA. She is either terrific or not, but throwing extra money at her doesn't tend to improve her performance. In fact, more often than not it makes her feel entitled (as if post-millenials need to feel more entitled!), lazier and less fun.

[JustLonely]

The trend for me recently. Just two examples below. Anybody falling for it?? Or having success?? LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8affa...f-7d4a5aceb028

" I'm in miami right now for spring break and I ran out of money! ".

https://www.seeking.com/member/4696c...3-79187824a37e

"I went to Florida and have missed my flight home. I don't have enough money to pay for another ticket home so I'm stuck here until I can figure something out. ".

The top one from Blacksburg is in Miami with other VT SB babes. Platonic despite what profile might hint at.

[JustLonely]

New York Post put up SA's top 20. No Virginia school this year.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/the-co...es-in-america/