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Originally Posted by DawgPound
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However, when I mention the economic situations with people I personally know in AMPs, it's of a nefarious nature. Nothing akin to the economic situations we live with everyday, but family type debts they are "forced" to pay off. And alot of this I know first hand. I was married to an Asian for almost 30 years and personally met AMP workers and owners in some of the major cities. So I have a little understanding of what's going on. However, there are ladies working in AMPs that are naturalized citizens and are doing it for the bank. I know of a few in NYC that are making $10 K+ per week. That's a helluva lot of Love You Long Times, LOL. I didn't believe it until I saw their cars, homes, etc. , and where their kids were going to college.
Back in 1998 I had a Vietnamese GF who was in the AMP biz and not all participants are "victims". Some of these ladies are total pros and the really pretty ones in big cities can easily rake in $8-$10 K a week.
I wonder how much annual income they report to the IRS. $10,000 a year?
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Agree somewhat
Originally Posted by Kulpryt
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The "trafficking" has to be somewhat defined clearly. Being bound by economic situations and less than favorable agreements aren't quite the same as being literally forced into something that you don't want. Many of us here in America, in fact maybe a good percentage of the population, are bound by economics situations to our reality we live everyday.
However, when I mention the economic situations with people I personally know in AMPs, it's of a nefarious nature. Nothing akin to the economic situations we live with everyday, but family type debts they are "forced" to pay off. And alot of this I know first hand. I was married to an Asian for almost 30 years and personally met AMP workers and owners in some of the major cities. So I have a little understanding of what's going on. However, there are ladies working in AMPs that are naturalized citizens and are doing it for the bank. I know of a few in NYC that are making $10 K+ per week. That's a helluva lot of Love You Long Times, LOL. I didn't believe it until I saw their cars, homes, etc. , and where their kids were going to college.
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Trafficking
Originally Posted by DawgPound
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Many are here illegally, whether it's an expired Visa or another means. And those are the ones paying off debts to someone back "home. " They can go to the other cities because alot of the AMPs are networked together. They have a some free reign, but they are "contracted" to the AMPs. From my experience that accounts for probably 80%. They are very skilled at what they do, but don't think for one second there isn't trafficking involved.
The "trafficking" has to be somewhat defined clearly. Being bound by economic situations and less than favorable agreements aren't quite the same as being literally forced into something that you don't want. Many of us here in America, in fact maybe a good percentage of the population, are bound by economics situations to our reality we live everyday.
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Not entirely true
Originally Posted by Bdirect
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leo and the media paints all AMP workers as exploited sex slaves by trafficking them from China. It is bs. I have never felt that at any AMP I been to that the girls are working there against their will, they all carry cell phones and tweet everybody . not like they are in a prison. plus they make decent nontaxable income . They are better off here than China, they come here to work on their own free will. they can alway leave to nyc or chicago, which basically have a chinese city inside those cities,
Many are here illegally, whether it's an expired Visa or another means. And those are the ones paying off debts to someone back "home. " They can go to the other cities because alot of the AMPs are networked together. They have a some free reign, but they are "contracted" to the AMPs. From my experience that accounts for probably 80%. They are very skilled at what they do, but don't think for one second there isn't trafficking involved.
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leo terrorize the chinese girls, not kraft
Originally Posted by Daytonfreek
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I hate the Patriots, but give full support to Robert Kraft. I highly doubt that he was involved in a sex trafficking ring like the media claims. He was looking for fun in the wrong place. However, someone of his wealth and status could have at least researched his prospective providers before diving in blindfolded. I guess all the money in the world is no substitute for common sense.
leo and the media paints all AMP workers as exploited sex slaves by trafficking them from China. It is bs. I have never felt that at any AMP I been to that the girls are working there against their will, they all carry cell phones and tweet everybody . not like they are in a prison. plus they make decent nontaxable income . They are better off here than China, they come here to work on their own free will. they can alway leave to nyc or chicago, which basically have a chinese city inside those cities,
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Won't be destroyed
Originally Posted by Bdirect
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If LEO can bug the massage rooms, I will stop going to AMP in this country. I know the law is always being change, but that is going to destroy AMPs.
AMPs are like dandelions. Pull one and three new ones pop up.
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Kraft
77 yrs old hell they should give him a medal.
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Kraft
Originally Posted by JayLeopold
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Agree with the premise. How the hell did they get cameras into the place undetected? I'm leaning toward cooperation from the business owner. Most of these places have ceiling tiles that would require a ladder to reach so the cameras were probably in a clock / radio in the room. They were probably not wireless, but were plugged into an outlet and recording to an SD card since the sting was 5 days of continuous recording.
Individuals need a way to quickly sweep the room for hidden cameras. Here's a link to a detection device.
https://www.senteltechsecurity.com/l...-defender.html#additional.
Wireless or not, a camera should stick out in a sweep. Before the provider enters the room or when she leaves, just pull out the handheld and sweep for cameras. Hell, pull it out while she is in the room and if they ask WTF, just say "Robert Kraft'!
I hate the Patriots, but give full support to Robert Kraft. I highly doubt that he was involved in a sex trafficking ring like the media claims. He was looking for fun in the wrong place. However, someone of his wealth and status could have at least researched his prospective providers before diving in blindfolded. I guess all the money in the world is no substitute for common sense.
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Cameras
Originally Posted by Dcloser6
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Inside cameras are usually installed by the SPA owners to prevent theft from employees and remote viewing to ensure business is being conducted. They also use the recordings to blackmail trouble customers.
If LEO can bug the massage rooms, I will stop going to AMP in this country. I know the law is always being change, but that is going to destroy AMPs.
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Inside cameras
Originally Posted by Charlie18
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Outside surveillance is one thing but how did they get cameras inside? Weren't there workers staying there 24/7? Did they secretly plant cameras when they did their inspection?
Inside cameras are usually installed by the SPA owners to prevent theft from employees and remote viewing to ensure business is being conducted. They also use the recordings to blackmail trouble customers.
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How to Detect Surveillance Devices
Originally Posted by Charlie18
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Outside surveillance is one thing but how did they get cameras inside? Weren't there workers staying there 24/7? Did they secretly plant cameras when they did their inspection?
Agree with the premise. How the hell did they get cameras into the place undetected? I'm leaning toward cooperation from the business owner. Most of these places have ceiling tiles that would require a ladder to reach so the cameras were probably in a clock / radio in the room. They were probably not wireless, but were plugged into an outlet and recording to an SD card since the sting was 5 days of continuous recording.
Individuals need a way to quickly sweep the room for hidden cameras. Here's a link to a detection device.
https://www.senteltechsecurity.com/l...-defender.html#additional.
Wireless or not, a camera should stick out in a sweep. Before the provider enters the room or when she leaves, just pull out the handheld and sweep for cameras. Hell, pull it out while she is in the room and if they ask WTF, just say "Robert Kraft'!
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Outside surveillance is one thing but how did they get cameras inside? Weren't there workers staying there 24/7? Did they secretly plant cameras when they did their inspection?
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5 men arrested in internet prostitution sting
Five men were arrested during an internet prostitution sting conducted by the Montgomery County Regional Agencies Narcotics and Gun Enforcement (RANGE) task force:
https://www.daytondailynews.com/news...bMwieHwp7vBYJ/
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