Rants and Raves

[Zipper34]

The problem with these lawyers is they don't want to do their fucking job. I remember reading what you said about you getting locked up and the lawyer is right, the case against you is very damming because you made it so easy for the cops by texting explicitly. The text messages alone would of convicted you but even if you have a damming case against you he should of got you the best plea deal possible but instead just urged you to take the first deal presented. Realistically you shouldn't take any deal presented before your Final plea court date. Its the court date where you either work out a plea or go to trial. Thats the date where you get your best plea arrangement because it puts pressure on the prosecutor. Prosecutors don't want to go to trial and waste time on these bs misdemeanor cases. If I ever catch a case like yours I would seek that lawyer that Gold Club escort services used, the old bald white guy. He represented and beat alot of those human trafficking cases for multiple companies and they say hes a bulldog in court. He would of def gotten you the best outcome. But what's done is done and being able to get your case sealed is a very good thing. I for one wouldn't give those dam crackers a dime. You can do community service for the 40 hours and then keep going to work off those court fees. Community service is really easy in Dekalb you work for a few hours and they give you credit for 8 hours, but whatever you do, don't get on the water treatment bus because they will keep you working for the entire 8 hours LOL.

Going to say that what happened to Johnny from when he was arrested to his plea deal all doesn't add up. Text messages alone are not damning evidence because text is just talk and anybody can say anything. I'm pretty sure there is something screwy about all of this.

[Lookinfoit69]

Wow! That story right there is why ya got to have a burner, and NEVER bring it in the house. Least, that is my approach. Getting comfortable with not getting caught will ALWAYS catch up to ya. Success makes us sloppy!

Brothers. Crisis averted this week. Whew. Had a 12 hour day at the office, then came home and logged 3 to 4 more hours on the work laptop. Was dog tired so I kissed the SO goodnight and went to bed. But of course I couldn't just lay it down for the evening. Oh of course not. Decided to log into the browser of my text app to see what the sugar babies in rotation were talking about. Then opened another incognito window and checked out USASG and then hit up SA to see if any new prospects were worthy. Well, father time is indeed undefeated because the next thing I know it's 3 AM and my phone is nowhere to be found on the bed. Nor is my SO.

Uh oh.

Well long story short, the SO heard me snoring all the way from downstairs came up to check on me and took the unlocked cell phone out of my sleeping hands and placed it on the family charging unit downstairs. I came downstair not knowing any of this and my SO says I'm mad at you. Gulp. Double gulp. But says your snoring was interrupting the kids sleep so I tok the phone because you need rest.

I scampered to the charging station, checked out the phone and the SO didn't so much as to even look at it. Man, I love the hobby and take extreme precautions. But here's a reminder to always stay on the 1. Could have been disastrous for me. But I am still in business. LOL. Reminded me of the scene from the Wire where Avon Barksdale tells D'Angelo Barksdale "You only need to EFF up once. Be a little slow, be a little late. Just once. And how ain't you NEVER going to be a little slow or be a little late? It's impossible. It's life."

Be safe brothers. Ripper.

[Ripvan12]

Brothers. Crisis averted this week. Whew. Had a 12 hour day at the office, then came home and logged 3 to 4 more hours on the work laptop. Was dog tired so I kissed the SO goodnight and went to bed. But of course I couldn't just lay it down for the evening. Oh of course not. Decided to log into the browser of my text app to see what the sugar babies in rotation were talking about. Then opened another incognito window and checked out USASG and then hit up SA to see if any new prospects were worthy. Well, father time is indeed undefeated because the next thing I know it's 3 AM and my phone is nowhere to be found on the bed. Nor is my SO.

Uh oh.

Well long story short, the SO heard me snoring all the way from downstairs came up to check on me and took the unlocked cell phone out of my sleeping hands and placed it on the family charging unit downstairs. I came downstair not knowing any of this and my SO says I'm mad at you. Gulp. Double gulp. But says your snoring was interrupting the kids sleep so I tok the phone because you need rest.

I scampered to the charging station, checked out the phone and the SO didn't so much as to even look at it. Man, I love the hobby and take extreme precautions. But here's a reminder to always stay on the 1. Could have been disastrous for me. But I am still in business. LOL. Reminded me of the scene from the Wire where Avon Barksdale tells D'Angelo Barksdale "You only need to EFF up once. Be a little slow, be a little late. Just once. And how ain't you NEVER going to be a little slow or be a little late? It's impossible. It's life."

Be safe brothers. Ripper.

[Ronny770]

Well, I just came back from court this afternoon on that Pandering-Soliciting an Undercover Officer for Sex case. I got an attorney (at $1,500) that was referred to me by a member on here. The attorney kept trying to subpoena or whatever you call it for the prosecutor to send him over the evidence in the case. The prosecutor never sent him a thing and kept pushing back the court date. Also, my attorney kept trying to see if he could get me on some pre-trial diversion program but that never happened.

Went to court finally today in Dekalb courthouse and it was a jammed one. I think I saw one of the guys that was locked up with me on that same night. Anyways, the secretary representing the prosecution called my name and my attorney went to speak to her on behalf of me. He kept asking her if she had any pre-trial diversion programs and she said told him not for a case like this. Really? $50 pandering charge. Smdh. Anyways, she gave him a plea sheet that had the plea of nolo contendere for 12 months probation, must take an STD test now and after 6 months, 40 hours community service, $1,329 in court fees and fines, $39/ month probation for up to 6 months and I can have my case sealed under first offender status after I fulfill all requirements. Damn!! I thought that was a bit fucking excessive for a $50 qv piece of ass. Ridiculous!

My attorney was also finally given the evidence against me. When we got out of the courtroom the attorney showed me everything and told me that the evidence against me was pretty damning. I know that guy, that why I paid you to solve that shit. Smh. He told me the best deal would be for me to take the plea since the best defense would be entrapment, but the case against me once again is pretty damning. Great! I took the fuck ass plea and that shit looked more like a fucking guilty plea. A fucking whole year of probation? Really? Get the fuck out of here with that nonsense.

I felt like I should have just gotten a public defender for free and saved that $1,500 bones. Fucking ridiculous. I just took the plea and got the fuck out of there. I definitely didn't want to take that to trial. I wonder if I could have stalled the court out and see if the prosecution would have came up with a lesser plea deal? I feel like that attorney got over on me. He did explain everything thoroughly to me, but I feel like he wasn't really needed for the most part.

I would have gotten the same plea deal without him. He just explained the plea deal to me thoroughly. Whatever, after 12 months probation, he said I can get the case sealed. I wonder if it will be on my record for 12 months though? Fucking pigs!! Be careful.

The problem with these lawyers is they don't want to do their fucking job. I remember reading what you said about you getting locked up and the lawyer is right, the case against you is very damming because you made it so easy for the cops by texting explicitly. The text messages alone would of convicted you but even if you have a damming case against you he should of got you the best plea deal possible but instead just urged you to take the first deal presented. Realistically you shouldn't take any deal presented before your Final plea court date. Its the court date where you either work out a plea or go to trial. Thats the date where you get your best plea arrangement because it puts pressure on the prosecutor. Prosecutors don't want to go to trial and waste time on these bs misdemeanor cases. If I ever catch a case like yours I would seek that lawyer that Gold Club escort services used, the old bald white guy. He represented and beat alot of those human trafficking cases for multiple companies and they say hes a bulldog in court. He would of def gotten you the best outcome. But what's done is done and being able to get your case sealed is a very good thing. I for one wouldn't give those dam crackers a dime. You can do community service for the 40 hours and then keep going to work off those court fees. Community service is really easy in Dekalb you work for a few hours and they give you credit for 8 hours, but whatever you do, don't get on the water treatment bus because they will keep you working for the entire 8 hours LOL.

[Zipper34]

I am getting out of the hobby mostly for now. Some things have come up. My house needs remodeling, and may need a double knee replacement. If everything goes as planned, I'll be back in a year or so. If it doesn't, well let's hope it doesn't take a million years for me to get my things together. I will hopefully be back sooner than later. Night, Johnny, Aaron, Ozymandias, Justthetip, Bunnery Sgt, and some other guys I will miss you and hope that one day we will all be sharing good intel on the forum again. For the other guys who are not so high on me on here well I will miss all of you too and I hope when I do come back things will be different. Take care everybody and hopefully I will be back sooner than later.

This is zipper out, and zipped. For now.

[Member #2227]

Thanks Sky! I'm starting to enjoy it. At the very least it's fun to listen to what these girls think they deserve.

[SkyHighBuilder]

Wow I'm just getting into this sugarbaby thing, I have to say I'm shocked. These girls are just high school graduates with no jobs, no prospects and pretty ordinary looking to be fair. Yet they seem to think they are priceless. How do you take somebody seriously when the only thing of value they have is that slit between their legs? I just wasted the time and ghosted a girl who wanted $200 cash so I could take her to the mall and buy her $200 pair of shoes. No promise of any adventurous fun afterwards. This is a girl who's been mentioned on the site a few times as a flake.

MEMBER#2227,

Much has been said by me, and many others, on here about how to approach SA. Used wisely you will find many diamonds, albeit most will be "in the rough" LOL. You need to apply a lot of sense to who are approaching and utilize some game getting to the bottom quickly of who you are chatting with.

As has been said before, the dynamic of SA has changed a lot since the demise of BP and CL but even back then this was going on. Find a strategy that works for you. Make a boilerplate message that you put out there. For the most part, ignore the ones that contact you out of the blue and ESPECIALLY the ones who favorite you without viewing your profile. These are the ones that are hunting "low hanging fruit" and will relieve a SIMP of his hard earned cash very quickly.

Personally, I stay away from the younger ones with the vanity pics and profiles that are long and drawn out about themselves. Sure sign of a narcissist with GPS for sure.

Get on there, make a few solid contacts and get off for a bit and play the ones you've met. It takes some work to get out of it what you want and odds a strong that you won't find your UTR on the first try. I wrote about this recently talking about MINING SA for the GEMS. If you treat it the same way you will come out on top a winner.

Happy digging,

SKY.

[NuGuy36]

NFN, but you are right about the public defender, I've had my dealings with Lawyers over the years for various things. I have almost never gotten a break and always ended up paying both the lawyer and the state / county / city. If you want to talk about overpriced hookers, look to any law office. They make the BP girls look like saints.

I hate to see a veteran hobbyist get busted. If you haven't already, would you mind sharing some tips on how you got pinched?

Do a search through JohnnyMapalo posts, he laid out in great detail about how he got rolled by the donut munchers.

[Member #2227]

Wow I'm just getting into this sugarbaby thing, I have to say I'm shocked. These girls are just high school graduates with no jobs, no prospects and pretty ordinary looking to be fair. Yet they seem to think they are priceless. How do you take somebody seriously when the only thing of value they have is that slit between their legs? I just wasted the time and ghosted a girl who wanted $200 cash so I could take her to the mall and buy her $200 pair of shoes. No promise of any adventurous fun afterwards. This is a girl who's been mentioned on the site a few times as a flake.

[KingSlayer22]

Well I knew this would happen but hoped it wouldn't. So no more access to the pics and vids that aren't distributed because someone wanted to be big man on campus and gave out media and numbers which wouldn't be so bad if they vouched for someone properly except the guy made simultaneous appts with 3 girls at the same time on the same day. To make Matters worse they claimed to be MOJO which is a joke considering we know each other. Now these girls check with each other over unknown people so within minutes it was apparent what was going on and it was shut down. So to who ever thought this was a good idea to let an unknown ass clown access to anything miscalculated. So if you can't access your party pics and vids it's shut down for now till we sort it out.

[KingSlayer22]

Well these girls are on their own schedule and I have a few minutes on my hands here's a few tid bits I'll throw out there.

First Essence and Kiki are coming back next week. Will post some updated pics for yall and general info. Kiki is doing a welcome back party this Saturday so hit me up for the details.

The girls have gotten together and want to throw a multiple girl (4 to 6) Super Bowl Party depending on if anyone has an interest. Looking at you guys that are interested picking out which all pro's you'd want to represent Atlanta finest for this event. You guys all know the choices from them all so tell me if your interested and whom you'd like see in the backfield and being in the pink zone with.

KS out.

[MrHobbyist]

I felt like I should have just gotten a public defender for free and saved that $1,500 bones. Fucking ridiculous. I just took the plea and got the fuck out of there. I definitely didn't want to take that to trial. I wonder if I could have stalled the court out and see if the prosecution would have came up with a lesser plea deal? I feel like that attorney got over on me. He did explain everything thoroughly to me, but I feel like he wasn't really needed for the most part.

I would have gotten the same plea deal without him. He just explained the plea deal to me thoroughly. Whatever, after 12 months probation, he said I can get the case sealed. I wonder if it will be on my record for 12 months though? Fucking pigs!! Be careful.

NFN, but you are right about the public defender, I've had my dealings with Lawyers over the years for various things. I have almost never gotten a break and always ended up paying both the lawyer and the state / county / city. If you want to talk about overpriced hookers, look to any law office. They make the BP girls look like saints.

I hate to see a veteran hobbyist get busted. If you haven't already, would you mind sharing some tips on how you got pinched?

[Rrobin]

I'm just going to reply to your post here so we don't clutter up the great reviews getting posted right now.

I thought the same way when I first started visiting CAMPs and KAMPs over fifteen years ago. But personally, and this is just me, I'm just sick of the asian scene after all those visits. Give it some time, you'll see. It's rushed and overpriced if you're getting more than a HE at a CAMP. And KAMPs were a ripoff too compared to the now dead korean apartment scene.

Look man, if I want a legit massage, I'll still drop a bill at a CAMP. But I'm not really going to these body rub girls for a massage. An oily or nuru full body to body massage with a young hottie is a completely different experience that's worth the money for some of us posting on the NON AMPs board.

Just read AtlEyez glowing review for Carter. And just like he says, some of these gals you can get FS from if you're a regular and they're comfortable with you. It's always going to be YMMV. Just because it's not getting posted and kept to PMs, don't think that we're just getting HEs for our investments.

I've only been to one massage parlor and it was a terrible experience which made me decide to never go back so I understand your frustrations however Atleyes post said he paid 300 for the VIP treatment which just included a BBBJ. That is a complete rip off. The Indy's are no better than massage parlor.

I should note that I don't really get turned on with the body to body massage so maybe that is why I feel that it is a rip-off so definitely YMMV.

[AcWorthDude]

I'm just going to reply to your post here so we don't clutter up the great reviews getting posted right now.

I thought the same way when I first started visiting CAMPs and KAMPs over fifteen years ago. But personally, and this is just me, I'm just sick of the asian scene after all those visits. Give it some time, you'll see. It's rushed and overpriced if you're getting more than a HE at a CAMP. And KAMPs were a ripoff too compared to the now dead korean apartment scene.

Look man, if I want a legit massage, I'll still drop a bill at a CAMP. But I'm not really going to these body rub girls for a massage. An oily or nuru full body to body massage with a young hottie is a completely different experience that's worth the money for some of us posting on the NON AMPs board.

Just read AtlEyez glowing review for Carter. And just like he says, some of these gals you can get FS from if you're a regular and they're comfortable with you. It's always going to be YMMV. Just because it's not getting posted and kept to PMs, don't think that we're just getting HEs for our investments.

I tend to agree. These camp and kamp chicks are gettin getting out of control. Their massages suck, they want to play on their phones on your dime. Just today the kamp chick I went to asked for 140 for a HJ on top of the house 60, so 160 for a shitty 45 minute massage. A hot chick at 100 - 120 for a half or 150 - 200 for an hour may be a bit more than a camp but but but its worth it if you domt want a to get jerked of by a 70 yr old woman with rotten teeth.

I can get a steak at the waffle house cheaper than outback, but I am going to enjoy outback a lot more.

[Tozuka281]

I see your point but 200 is way too high for just a HE. Most of those Indy massage girls don't know how to massage. Also, CAMPs have to rent out an office unlike these Indy girls who work from their apartments so it will make sense for CAMPs to charge more but yet the Indy's charge twice as much.

I agree that they are hot but I personally will not pay 200 for just a HE no matter how hot they are. 200 is FS price.

The massagegirl that was reviewed here is a much better option giving the reviews people gave. Her rate is at 90 minutes for 150 and she is licensed massage therapist.

I'm just going to reply to your post here so we don't clutter up the great reviews getting posted right now.

I thought the same way when I first started visiting CAMPs and KAMPs over fifteen years ago. But personally, and this is just me, I'm just sick of the asian scene after all those visits. Give it some time, you'll see. It's rushed and overpriced if you're getting more than a HE at a CAMP. And KAMPs were a ripoff too compared to the now dead korean apartment scene.

Look man, if I want a legit massage, I'll still drop a bill at a CAMP. But I'm not really going to these body rub girls for a massage. An oily or nuru full body to body massage with a young hottie is a completely different experience that's worth the money for some of us posting on the NON AMPs board.

Just read AtlEyez glowing review for Carter. And just like he says, some of these gals you can get FS from if you're a regular and they're comfortable with you. It's always going to be YMMV. Just because it's not getting posted and kept to PMs, don't think that we're just getting HEs for our investments.