Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Lenny6746]

Started looking in Dayton The cinci providers got nothing for me. Found one in Dayton with good rates and and seem good with the right prices. I've looked at Dayton before and nothing. Ita worth the drive I will report after our session Lenny 6746.

[BgDoc3]

I don't believe I ever said anything like that. This got out of hand. I'm stating a fact that average and below average think they are goddesses rate performance. I met a provider over a year ago. She was actually not my type at all. She had lost alot of weight, Her tits were a 40 FF. She had a great personality so I stayed. OMG One of the best fucks I ever had she came 9 timed wit my dick and 4 with my mouth. We took a break and went at it again. 1 hr for 100 used the full hour fucking. Most of these self proclaimed Goddeses Charge alot more for alot less fucking. Thats my *****. Lenny 6746.

Or 150 and some give a nice discount at 2 hrs for 2 total. Most are overpriced though. Again how many ladies in the "real" world can make a 100 an hour even with a college degree and most from not being on their backs for an hour or with a talented mouth. How many do we have to worry about that no show or postpone postpone postpone until you just leave. How many don't even wake up until after noon yet give their hours from 7:30 until 11 midnight. It is all about service vs promising the moon to get you in the door then shorting you time after the first pop but not telling you the parameters. Ask questions. If you can't get what you are willing to pay for don't give them the business. That simple. You are paying for what YOU want. Get what you want for your dollars. If not give them a review and move on. If you want the "forbidden" fruit, do it PM. Works for me and has for over two decades. Have a good week and hope this snow goes away so I can get to some ladies in Ohio for some "serious forbidden fruit". The doctor SO NEEDS TO BE IN. LOL.

[Lenny6746]

I don't believe I ever said anything like that. This got out of hand. I'm stating a fact that average and below average think they are goddesses rate performance. I met a provider over a year ago. She was actually not my type at all. She had lost alot of weight, Her tits were a 40 FF. She had a great personality so I stayed. OMG One of the best fucks I ever had she came 9 timed wit my dick and 4 with my mouth. We took a break and went at it again. 1 hr for 100 used the full hour fucking. Most of these self proclaimed Goddeses Charge alot more for alot less fucking. Thats my *****. Lenny 6746.

[Lenny6746]

It totally was. A stiff dick has dosent care what it fucks Bravo Bravo! Puts us all in the same boat. Lenny6746.

[Hooter12]

To you. Totally subjective.

I got a dollar blowjob once. It was actually a solid 8 of 10 for technique. That said, I'd happily pay 300-400 to erase the memory of the face I put my willy in.

Made me laugh. Thanks.

[Member #6319]

We need to stick together there's no pussy worth that much, My god I can get 5 to 6 providers for that. All your doing is driving up the prices for all of us. High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. Wake up! Lenny6746.

To you. Totally subjective.

I got a dollar blowjob once. It was actually a solid 8 of 10 for technique. That said, I'd happily pay 300-400 to erase the memory of the face I put my willy in.

On the other hand, there is a young woman local to me that I am absolutely mesmerized by. I wouldn't hesitate to give her $500 for an hour, just to let her sit there naked and talk to me. I think if she would actually let me bone her I would pay $1000 or more.

This is coming from a dude that doesn't make much money by anyone's standard.

Can't regulate personal motivation.

[Jeh123]

The unfortunate part of this trade is you don't really know if you're getting a good deal til it's too late in most instances. I have only walked away once prior to engagement because I didn't anticipate the value I was looking for per menu and looks. The key is to be open and honest and plan your future around weather you feel you get good value. Negotiate future visits if the services were of you're liking. I usually add a tip if services were good and pricing was fair, or I'll let her know I didn't feel I got my moneys worth. The good ones, the smart ones, know this.

Rather than call for some stupid boycott, Mongers should post quality reviews including menu items and pricing, unless the providers request not.

[ChuckD1]

Your very long winded, but 100 percent accurate. I wouldn't of took the time to say all that, but I respect you did.

I have nothing what so ever to offer this discussion.

Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.

[BgDoc3]

PUSSY is not one of them nor do they control the market We do. The two words are YES and NO. They have a right to charge whatever they can get. We have the right to say no. Do we need PUSSY some do most if you think about it DON'T. Do they need your dollars. Hell yes. The sooner men figure that out the better. They need to pay rent, put food on the table, buy clothes, pay utilities keep a decent room to work out of pay for transportation, feed and clothe their kids, ETC, ETC, ETC. Most guys with loose wallets and deep pockets don't give a shit. They see good looking pussy they go shit crazy. There are ladies who will bargain just like men will. Part of the game. So when men figure out who REALLY controls the game, they will become better shoppers. DO YOU REALLY think most of the ladies out there doing this for a living can go out and make a 100 an hour at a REGULAR job? HELL NO. But most want a hundred to 150 l or more for an hour to fk you blow you or all of the above. Think about it. Ladies choice to ask what she wants. Man's choice to say yes or no. Simple as that my friends.

[WhereDreamsGo]

That boycott thing gets talked about often over the years, and it doesn't work. Either way. This business doesn't lend itself to cartels. Pussy and horny dudes are both in vast supply.

It's really pretty easy though. Ask a price. If it seems right, do it. If not, decline. If she's willing to bargain, you'll hear that pretty quickly.

There are some nuances. Some will quote you one price, then raise it subsequently. In many cases, this is a cop test actually, and you should never go along with it because it makes you look like a cop. It's actually, BTW, a better cop test than the standard "cop a feel first" test on site. Or the even stupider "are you a cop?" question. Guess what? They're allowed to lie. They're allowed to slip their schlongs into the girls if it's "necessary" to make the case. Most of these cases will never see anything but a preliminary hearing anyway, and they're probably just layering on a charge for plea leverage of some kind or to make a quota. But I digress.

Either way, being agreeable to paying an outrageous rate can mark you as a potential cop for the savvier providers. Unfortunately, this isn't ironclad. I have heard some of the cops will bargain just to appear legit.

Legally, I believe you are better off not initiating an offer. Practically, I'm not sure it makes much difference, because once you're in the grasp, cops will just lie or where possible manufacture evidence.

[BigJay69]

Tried a game once.

1st pop $50.

2nd pop $75 so 125 total.

3rd pop $100=225.

4th would have been 125=350 but I tapped out gave her 300 for the effort. Was a great day. Man I need a return trip to Vegas.

[SinsinnatiToy]

I will admit that I am the weirdo here. Very simply I believe a woman should be paid for what activities and performance rather than a set amount for a period of time. Since I do longer dates of 5 hours, I want a lot of action. Very simply if a woman does not agree to my bonus system and wants a fixed 160 to 200 then I wish them well and say goodbye. I am not willing to spend more than 100 per hour just for a woman's time, but I offer set bonuses for the things I want in addition to the price for her time. If a woman wants to fulfill bonus items, such as a fixed amount for each type of nut I get, it is not uncommon for woman to make 700 to a 1000. This way she gets paid for the service provided and is an incentive for her to work harder, not for just an amount of time. Just an old man with his strange way of doing things.

ST.

[JLZ61]

And this, my friends, is what we call the wonderful experiment of capitalism. Well said.

Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.

[Lenny6746]

You all changed my mind I think every one of you should pay 500 per HH. To every provider you meet. Hell its only fair. As they say PUSSY is PUSSY. Its all good. LOL and I will watch you all go broke happy. Give them The 500 and I bet they love you long time! Until the next one walks in LOL Lenny6746.

[LuvnLivn]

Here we go again. A monger saying we have to tell the providers what we think they should charge. First place, you're saying that every monger, every single guy that see all the providers, is on the USA site so we should all stick together and boycott and make them drop their prices. I would guess a fraction of those seeing providers are members of the USA site.

I've posted about his before, a while back. Who are we, who are you, to tell a provider she is charging too much? "High end bullshit. I won't pay that for two girls. Much less one. " Ok, so don't pay. So don't see her. Don't tell somebody else, who is willing to see the provider for the amount she wants, that he shouldn't do it because you in fact want to see her, but don't have or won't spend the amount she wants. So we should not see her until she drops to a price that you think she should and you would pay? There are tons of providers I have seen advertised that I wouldn't see because I won't spend that kind of money on her because I simply don't find her attractive to spend that kind of money. Does that mean she is asking too much? To me yes, to others no. Then there would be another monger who likes her looks and what she offers, and to him, she is worth what she is asking and he pays it. Then she's not asking too much. I've paid big bucks to see two current porn stars that I have documented on here. For the experience I think it was worth it. Would I do it again? Probably not with them. But I certainly wouldn't tell other guys to boycott them because they are asking too much. Because as long as they are getting the business they require, want or need, then they are not asking too much. And I wouldn't spend that kind of bank on a local provider.

And that's all the point. A provider has her self priced knowing what she needs. If 9 out of 10 guys won't see her but she does get that one who will, and that one is all she needs to get what she needs, then she is priced just right. A provider decides and makes the decision on whether she is asking too much, not you or any of us. I don't believe most providers are looking to get every monger, to get everyone. Those that are we call street walkers. Those that advertise want a certain price and are satisfied with the percentage of those willing to pay. If they arent satisfied, then they lower their price. I drive a very expensive car. I think its worth it. I have friends that think its ridiculous to spend that kind of money on a car and wouldn't do it. But they aren't suggesting all car buyers boycott that particular car manufacturer to drop their prices so they can buy one. The manufacturer knows it isn't going to get all car buyers. These providers know they arent going to get all mongers and they don't want them. If they did they'd be working the street. They just want the ones willing to pay what they feel is fair for their services. If they get that certain percentage, then their price is just right. The ones I don't like I don't pay to see them and neither should you. And there are ones that I do like but I won't spend the cash they are asking but obviously others do and I don't begrudge them that. And I certainly don't have the right to tell them they are wrong and that the provider is wrong. And neither do you. And don't tell me I shouldn't see someone to try and make the provider more affordable for you. If I think she is worth it then she is. To me. Not to you? Ok.

I think the car analogy said it best. Can I afford a Mercedes? Yes. Am I willing to pay that amount? No. Not worth it to me. But it obviously is to someone else or else they'd lower the price.

LL