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  1. #11468

    ST in Arlington, Great!

    Had the day so I stopped at ST, wow what a surprise! MS provided the house TS and she did an amazing job, like I had a pop-up from that alone! Then after that, I'm lying down and MS brings my choices in to which I select Fendi who is a tall spinner with bolt ons. She was very sensual and was a looker from most of the standard. Def will repeat! BTW, if anyone has any other similar experiences where its as easy for the provider to ask if you want everything please do send me that info. Damage was $. 6, half was house other was tip! Creepin'.

  2. #11467

    I Second The Vote For Cash

    Quote Originally Posted by Fred86  [View Original Post]
    I've never had a problem here.

    If you use cash you'll probably have a bit better luck.
    Fred is wise.

    Never use a credit card when mongering, unless you really do not care about who knows about your activities. Cash is nearly untraceable and damn near impossible to be linked to any account with your name on it. Credit cards leave footprints, so to speak. The ladies prefer cash, as well, for the same reasons.

    Stay safe out there.

    - Vaughn.

  3. #11466

    I got you all beat LOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShortMan22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever had to chance to date or hook up with anAMP outside of work? If so can you PM me your experience with her?
    Seems we all have dating stories. Mine is really crazy. Back in 2013 there used to be an operation where what I later found out was a local guy from south America who used to put out backpage adult gigs offers all over the country and fly them in to DC to do body rubs. It was setup out of various apartments in falls church. Anyways went in 2013 and ended up meeting a provider who was there from another city. We seem to really hit it off so randomly asked her for drinks a few days later and she said yes. We proceeded to my surprise kind of had a normal date and after the bar she snuck me into the house to hook up, for free. Again kind of like a normal date.

    She stopped coming here and did it on her own in her own city and coincidently I had to start traveling to that city for my job. We became really close and when I tried to give her money she said she didn't want me paying her anymore. We would even have 3 somes with her friends that she knew around her town and recruited to work with her, she was really bi. We had 3 somes with 3 different friends of hers, It was a really crazy time of life and after awhile we really developed feelings and all those issues of growing feelings to a "working girl" really mentally wore me down.

    After a year of that she then got pregnant by her ex bf and that ended things and she already had a daughter. Fast forward to today, we are good friends still and I actually grew really close to her daughter as I watched her grow up over the years. She has gained a lot of weight and doesn't look like she did in 2013 so I doubt she is still in the business, but who knows. None of my business. I will see her in a month when on business and taking her daughter trick or treating.

    It was a wild journey and all because I got that itch one day 5 years ago and responded to an ad. Crazy right? Anybody got that story beat? LOL.

    Stay safe.

  4. #11465

    Speaking of psyche

    Quote Originally Posted by GripNSip  [View Original Post]
    Exactly. This ain't no fucking fairy tale. I grew too close to a provider once, came by once or twice a week to get what I thought at the time was the VIP service. I thought I worked my way up passed the NOVA standard, that I was somehow different. So. Naive. I always thought man she knows the way around my junk like a pro. Well, that's because practice makes perfect and boy she was getting plenty of practice. You think it don't affect your psyche but it does and I had the sense to come through before I flew into the sun. She would squeeze me in right after seeing a customer and then there would be a customer that immediately followed after my time was up. For you Clerks fans out there, 37 in a row. You ain't special, you're a walking ATM and she might tell you otherwise but that's the way it goes. You ain't no Richard Gere and she ain't no Julia Roberts. Keep it business.
    Nothing worse than the feeling of calling my ex to schedule an appointment. I did it last month. The week before Labor Day. I made that call, made that drive, climbed those stairs and looked into the eyes that use to wake up next to mine. What a wonderful experience until I made the drive back home. All that I experienced over the years with her reduced to an hour and a half and $$ bitcoins. I should not have gone back, but I had to.

    I noticed no one mentioned how you feel when someone talks about your significant other on here? Try reading that your girl who kissed you hello today also took a bbbjcimswnq from one of your contemporaries here on the forum? Now you both intimately know everyone here. Try that for psyche. I for one and not strong enough to keep living that arrangement.

  5. #11464

    RE: Gambling Connection?

    I have often wondered how many of the middle aged AMP ladies I have seen are in the massage industry due to their gambling habits. Of course, I've never asked. It's none of my business. But I am curious about that potential connection.

    And the other side of the coin is that I've often looked around at the other patrons of the casino I happen to be in and wonder if any of them are playing with money they've made pleasing men in a p4 p arrangement, particularly as AMP workers.

    And I don't mean this as a stereotype, but I especially wonder about the Asian ladies sitting at the roulette wheel and lingering on the slot machines.

    Just a couple of thoughts.

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpico99  [View Original Post]
    I did, but it was a pay for play. Anyone remember Coco from Bay (now BKY) Therapy in Annandale? She was giving up BBFS to mongers and I was her one of her clients. She got her own place and I hooked up with her at her place, but for a price. All fine with me. I think she was into gambling as she use to tell me she use to stay out late and watch Korean card games in the local area and play online. That's why she probably was giving BBFS to make bigger tips and spend it on her habit.

    I would never get involved with a provider who was hooked into gambling. They will end up spreading their legs for any client when they need the cash.

  6. #11463
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCeltic  [View Original Post]
    Read them all carefully. They all ring true to me, and I was in a relationship for 8 years. In the end she was working as "Manager" Was I really sure she did not fill in when things got busy? I tried not to think about it. If you do it don't get serious. Keep it on a FWB basis, If you can. Take care.
    Curious to know (if you want to share) if you ever found out if she was filling in or seeing her regular clients when they called to schedule with her specifically? A lot of these providers have regulars who probably treat them good with tips.

  7. #11462

    Herndon S

    Hola gents,

    Took a dive last night against my better judgment at the Herndon S. Closer to where I was and walked there. No lights or open sign that was on that made me think they were closed. Rang the bell and was greeted by an older lady, Amanda, but not too bad on the eyes. Late 40's ish thin frame all around, little disappointing as I prefer more meat. About 6/10, maybe. I wouldn't turn her away at last call at the bar, but I wouldn't chase her either.

    Anyways, . 6 for half hour. And took me to the first room. Left my tip, . 4 on the table for her when she came back in. Iopted for the softer massage which turned out to be pretty good. Light tease. On the flip immediately went to work after I pointed out my sore spots. Nice finish, but nothing memorable. No haggle either which was great. Not sure I'll be back unless someone is aware of other providers there similar to what I prefer.

    Trab.

  8. #11461
    Quote Originally Posted by ShortMan22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever had to chance to date or hook up with anAMP outside of work? If so can you PM me your experience with her?
    I did, but it was a pay for play. Anyone remember Coco from Bay (now BKY) Therapy in Annandale? She was giving up BBFS to mongers and I was her one of her clients. She got her own place and I hooked up with her at her place, but for a price. All fine with me. I think she was into gambling as she use to tell me she use to stay out late and watch Korean card games in the local area and play online. That's why she probably was giving BBFS to make bigger tips and spend it on her habit.

    I would never get involved with a provider who was hooked into gambling. They will end up spreading their legs for any client when they need the cash.

  9. #11460

    Very wise words

    Quote Originally Posted by JmSuttr  [View Original Post]
    To paraphrase an old saying, "ain't no such thing as free pussy. ".

    If you choose the pay-to-play model, which is what this forum is all about, then your costs will generally be knowable and quantifiable. If you choose the dating relationship model, whether serious or casual, you will most likely encounter some unexpected and, at least beforehand, unknowable and unquantifiable costs.

    All relationships are complicated because they involve complicated personalities and issues. The hobby is relatively simple because both you and the (adult, consenting) provider are conducting a business transaction in which you both benefit. While you might have positive feelings about a provider, and she about you, there is no true relationship involved and if you stopped seeing each other you would both move on.

    So, not sure what your goal is, but my recommendation is not to mix your hobby life with your real-life relationships. Having personally dated a provider, I'd rather be waterboarded than go through that again.

    And always remember that you're paying for it. It's just a matter of whether or not you know the costs in advance.
    I have enjoyed many friendships -- but, for the ladies it is a business. JMS has great wisdom.

    Always be nice to the ladies.

    PA.

  10. #11459
    Quote Originally Posted by DavidCeltic  [View Original Post]
    Read them all carefully. They all ring true to me, and I was in a relationship for 8 years. In the end she was working as "Manager" Was I really sure she did not fill in when things got busy? I tried not to think about it. If you do it don't get serious. Keep it on a FWB basis, If you can. Take care.
    Remember the adage: "You can't turn a hoe into a housewife".

    In other words, you can't forge a meaningful relationship that has already begun on false or dishonest pretenses (regardless of their own plight or immigration status at the time).

    My advice is to re-listen to the Snoop's Doggystyle album and just keep it moving. Haha.

    Plenty of better ways to meet women.

    -Kip.

  11. #11458

    All the comments so far are on the money

    Quote Originally Posted by Miketastic69  [View Original Post]
    You think you're strong enough to "not care" that your girl is giving handjobs or worse. You might be, but at some point every new kiss, twist, smile or comment will make you wonder where she learned it? Was it a customer? Is she seeing other guys from the parlor? How many times has she done this? If she worked at a FS place how many times did she screw customers today? Am I man enough to satisfy her? Can she leave the business and start a serious relationship? What if I grow attached to her and her family and maybe her kid? Will I lose all of them if it does not work with her?

    That's the easy part. Mine had some tendencies that I will leave private. My girl did not steal but what do you do when you're missing a few hundred bucks and she's the only one that's been around? How is her emotional well-being when you're questioning her all the time when things stop working? Beware of what you're signing up for. I still love my girl. She's still giving Handjobs. Even when I was paying for everything she had to go to the shop. Had to hang around the girls. I don't blame her. Humanity is a struggle.
    Read them all carefully. They all ring true to me, and I was in a relationship for 8 years. In the end she was working as "Manager" Was I really sure she did not fill in when things got busy? I tried not to think about it. If you do it don't get serious. Keep it on a FWB basis, If you can. Take care.

  12. #11457

    Been there, done that

    Quote Originally Posted by SexyD  [View Original Post]
    Dated an attractive provider at a local favorite.

    From the beginning it was all about the money: pay off my debt, sign lease give me money to Invest in business.

    If you aren't willing to part with large sums of money, it's over. These women may want sex outside of work but they only see men as ATM machines. You will never meet a nice girl, rescue her from the life, and live happy ever after.
    I can relate all too well. Trust me, it's not worth it.

  13. #11456
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1892

    Money is leverage

    Quote Originally Posted by LetsGiveItATry  [View Original Post]
    Crystal Spa is still the name on the door, but when you run a credit card it's called why&A Spa. I met a young Chinese girl approximate 30 years of age it was very attractive, but when it came down to providing the HE She lied about everything she charge me for. We agreed upon all clothes off, kissing all over and BJ. After she charged my credit card, she only tried to do HJ fully clothed. I demand it all of my money back and she tried to talk me out of it and I said no and then I talk to the man in charge and he gave me a full refund and told me he was sorry.
    Once you tip in advance, whether by cash or credit card, you lose that leverage. If the provider sticks to what you think was agreed, no problem. But if she doesn't, you have to go through a lot of drama to try to get your $ back. You were lucky to get a refund as that generally doesn't happen and depends entirely on the MMS or manager on duty. They don't want problems but they also know you're unlikely to call LE and complain about not getting your nekkid BJ.

  14. #11455

    Preach brother preach

    Quote Originally Posted by SexyD  [View Original Post]
    Dated an attractive provider at a local favorite.

    From the beginning it was all about the money: pay off my debt, sign lease give me money to Invest in business.

    If you aren't willing to part with large sums of money, it's over. These women may want sex outside of work but they only see men as ATM machines. You will never meet a nice girl, rescue her from the life, and live happy ever after.
    Exactly. This ain't no fucking fairy tale. I grew too close to a provider once, came by once or twice a week to get what I thought at the time was the VIP service. I thought I worked my way up passed the NOVA standard, that I was somehow different. So. Naive. I always thought man she knows the way around my junk like a pro. Well, that's because practice makes perfect and boy she was getting plenty of practice. You think it don't affect your psyche but it does and I had the sense to come through before I flew into the sun. She would squeeze me in right after seeing a customer and then there would be a customer that immediately followed after my time was up. For you Clerks fans out there, 37 in a row. You ain't special, you're a walking ATM and she might tell you otherwise but that's the way it goes. You ain't no Richard Gere and she ain't no Julia Roberts. Keep it business.

  15. #11454
    Senior Member


    Posts: 1892

    Two very different ways to pay for pussy. So pick your poison.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShortMan22  [View Original Post]
    Has anyone ever had to chance to date or hook up with anAMP outside of work? If so can you PM me your experience with her?
    To paraphrase an old saying, "ain't no such thing as free pussy. ".

    If you choose the pay-to-play model, which is what this forum is all about, then your costs will generally be knowable and quantifiable. If you choose the dating relationship model, whether serious or casual, you will most likely encounter some unexpected and, at least beforehand, unknowable and unquantifiable costs.

    All relationships are complicated because they involve complicated personalities and issues. The hobby is relatively simple because both you and the (adult, consenting) provider are conducting a business transaction in which you both benefit. While you might have positive feelings about a provider, and she about you, there is no true relationship involved and if you stopped seeing each other you would both move on.

    So, not sure what your goal is, but my recommendation is not to mix your hobby life with your real-life relationships. Having personally dated a provider, I'd rather be waterboarded than go through that again.

    And always remember that you're paying for it. It's just a matter of whether or not you know the costs in advance.

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