Thread: "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?
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09-09-18 18:54 #15510
Posts: 1287Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]
Didn't mean to veer too far from the question.
Yes it would bother me somewhat to know a specific girl was having or had my child without my prior knowledge or ability to participate in the decision whether or not the child should be born in the first place. But there lies the problem, as the man, we do not have that right -- once the egg is fertilized, the decision becomes solely the womans, and that imbalance of power is what makes it perfectly acceptable, in my mind, to fuck and run. I came to terms with this imbalance of power a long time ago. Because the decision of what to do is exclusively female, I believe the female also bears total responsibility for unwanted pregnancy in the first place, either preventing it via birth control, or doing whatever they feel needs to be done if they do get pregnant (plan B, abortion whatever). Or, if they want to raise the child, then raise the child.
I can say this -- almost every single SB I've ever known has daddy issues, a huge portion of them suffer from absent daddy syndrome from having been raised by a single mom. So, if some of my former SBs made the choice to be single moms and raise future sugar babies, wouldn't it be hypocritical of me to say that this is wrong? It's almost like I'm supporting my own habit by having unprotected sex and not sticking around long enough to worry about the consequences. Creating more single moms means more future sugar babies.. but yes I would be creeped out if I found out that one of my SBs was actually the offspring of one of my former SBs, especially if she looked a little like me.
Besides, even when they tell me they don't want money, I still gift them enough that it would at least likely pay for a significant portion of abortion costs. It's their choice what to spend the gift on, just at it is their choice whether to have the baby at all.
I should also say that I prefer not to cum inside them, my preference is in the mouth or a cum bath all over their face and body. However some of them want it inside, or some of them don't have the skill to get me off any other way.
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09-09-18 18:41 #15509
Posts: 204Info
On this one, anyone. https://www.seeking.com/member/01d1b...4-18ceafac6f68.
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09-09-18 18:38 #15508
Posts: 204I knew she was GPS but Really?
The Provocateur https://www.seeking.com/member/aa882...0-010a3153e395.
Been messaging because she kept messaging me so I decided, what the hell, let's see what she is about. I figured she is so full of herself, probably not having a lot of luck and probably wants some like the rest of us. So was going to meet this week, till she of course says my allowance is way too low and she usually gets $1000-$5000 per visit! Well that was a quick bye, but really. She acts like she is so successful, doesn't need the money, and wants an arrangement based on chemistry and respect. Sounds to me like it's about the money. Oh well, kind of figured it was going to go that way.
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09-09-18 18:16 #15507
Posts: 116Originally Posted by JZLizard [View Original Post]
1. Consider this hypothetical scenario: Two or more SBs, one of them pregnant, all coincidentally having hired the same lawyer, all come up with more or less the same story saying you made promises of finding a job or promised to hire them or otherwise help them with their, I don't know, pet sitting career, yourself or through friends. Then "lured" them into your love shack to discuss their "career", and before they knew it, you were on top pounding away. Not likely? Think again my friend. You get a female judge and an overzealous prosecutor and I think your case is sealed, whether you work in show business or not, especially if you have deep pockets. I don't know about you guys, but I personally never discuss $ or specifics over text or on a website or anything with an audit trail, because that can lead to other problems (solicitation, pandering, trafficking, FOSTA). I only discuss things in person. So this could easily turn into a "he said, she said" argument, except now there is your word against three.
I haven't yet pulled the trigger as far as self hosting, but before I do, I think I will take your advice and invest in a nanny cam. A couple actually. I'm not sure if that's 100% legal, but I would rather have it and not need it than not have it. And it looks like I will have to keep the recordings for many years. Crap!
2. The pull out method doesn't always work, from what I've heard and read. I have unloaded inside a few times when the girl said "don't worry, I'm on the pill" or "I have an IUD", but I'm still worried. I really, really don't want any junior assaholics out there crawling around on the rugs in someone's dilapidated ghetto apartment, but the temptation is sometimes so great that I just say ah fuck it, just this one time. So far I've been lucky, but I am fully aware that I'm walking on thin ice here.
I also believe one should not put too much faith in one's ability to remain completely anonymous. Case in point. As I've mentioned before, unlike most of you guys here, I never got much traction on SA, so I've branched out to alternative methods for finding SBs. Just the other day I got a match with a 20 year old on Tinder and she sends me a one-word message. That word was my real name. I have a rare name, so no way this was a coincidence. I replied, without confirming or denying that she was on the right track, but she ghosted me. WTF just happened? She did not look familiar to me at all. Took a screen shot, did an image search, did a FB search, IG search. Nothing came up. Now keep in mind that I'm in IT and security is in my DNA. My phone is a pay-as-you-go burner registered under a phony (NPI) name, phony address, paid with cash, Burner app loaded, the works. Google, Facebook, IG, GMail, Tinder, Bumble, all are under pseudonyms with zero ties to my real identity. My FB and Tinder profiles do have a real, but old picture of me with sunglasses, used nowhere else and it comes up empty under Tineye and Google Images. I do all my mongering activity on a separate, dedicated virtual computer which is used for nothing else and I never monger on my real PC or phone. Now you tell me, how in the F did this supposed bimbo figure out my real name? Thankfully, I'm single and self-employed, don't have deep pockets, and have no worries at all if I'm "exposed", but this incident gave me a real wake up call as to how un-anonymous we really are.
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09-09-18 10:15 #15506
Posts: 2803Pregnancy
Originally Posted by JZLizard [View Original Post]
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09-09-18 08:40 #15505
Posts: 1287Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
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09-09-18 08:22 #15504
Posts: 1287Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]
So, unless you're a well-known celebrity and are banging young girls that you have some professional involvement with, I wouldn't worry about random claims of the Weinstein type.
Pregnancy is one of the biggest (and costliest) risks that I think most SDs face, and of course there are ways around that. Since I don't like condoms have not had a vasectomy, and do sometimes cum inside them, my primary defense against this risk is to guard my anonymity as much as possible.
My gf lives with me, so bringing SBs to my home is not an option. If she did not, I would probably have various girls over multiple nights in any given week, but if they know where I live, I would no longer take the risk of unloading inside them, it would go in their mouth or I would just pull out and spray them.
My other tactic (which is controversial) is to quickly and move onto the next, never spending too much time with one. I usually cut out of the situation with some sort of short-term family emergency story or similar, then if they keep trying to stay in touch I just tell them I'm now involved with someone else. Sometimes I get a text from them 2-6 months after having cut them loose, where they will say they would just like to see me again, clarifying that no sugar or help is expected; sometimes it's very tempting, but I also wonder if there is more to the request -- perhaps they want another date so they can try to gather more info about my identity, etc? So I never take them up on that offer even if I would like to bang them again.
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09-08-18 21:55 #15503
Posts: 436Britt
Originally Posted by BlueDrive [View Original Post]
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09-08-18 20:39 #15502
Posts: 708Here your famous sugar babe
For all those of you that like give money away without playtime.
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09-08-18 19:31 #15501
Posts: 353Originally Posted by Assaholic [View Original Post]
On the handful of times I've felt a little iffy about someone, I've plopped my cell phone down on the dresser, set the audio recorder and then discreetly toss a pair of boxers over the phone. The dresser turns the phone into a great boundary mic, and everything is recorded quite clearly. After the date, I move the audio on the phone over to an encrypted hard drive for safe keeping. I live in a one-party consent state for in-person conversations, but even if that were not the case if the shit hit the fan I'd rather have a recording charge on my record than a sexual assault or rape charge.
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09-08-18 15:50 #15500
Posts: 116Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]
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09-08-18 08:51 #15499
Posts: 53I have seen her, totally crazy.
Originally Posted by BlueDrive [View Original Post]
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09-08-18 08:22 #15498
Posts: 448I don't have an SO, so using my place is an option but still only after i've built trust with them. I would be very cautious about a girl asking to come back to my place after the first meet.
It's all about trusting that they aren't going to rob and blackmail you. Most girls I've met can be trusted, but it only takes one.
Originally Posted by Zcochran00 [View Original Post]
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09-08-18 06:04 #15497
Posts: 373Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]
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09-07-18 23:43 #15496
Posts: 118Justifications for not hosting at home?
This hasn't happened to me, but the thought crossed my mind and I was curious if it's happened to anyone else.
As we've discussed, almost every SD avoids meeting at our homes to protect our privacy, even if you don't have an SO at home to worry about. Instead, we either get hotel rooms, or see if the SB can host.
Has anyone ever had an SB suggest that you meet at your place, and question why not when you say no? If so, what reasons did you give?