Thread: "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?
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06-09-18 23:06 #15060
Posts: 454Negotiating online vs in-person
Let me add another perspective to this topic. I agree personally for me, negotiating in person with potential SBs is a much batter option than online or through text and favors me to get a better deal. Many girls told me at our first meet they felt safe around me and I come across as a trustable guy which works in my favor. But, in practice, convincing a girl for a M&G has become much more difficult lately. I try to remain anonymous, and don't have profile pics and only send pics by texts or e-mail after reasonable conversation to build trust. Even after that I don't send face pics. I don't pay for M&G (except for gas money), and allowance is given only after we head to FC, panties hit the floor and stay on the floor for at least two hours. (no money upfront). So the time investment for M&G from the girls point view comes with a risk. In my experience, most girls ask for what they could expect allowance-wise before they meet. At first, I used to dodge the question, and try to get them to meet and discuss in person. Most of them dropped out at that stage when I insisted not talk about allowance in advance, although very few agreed to meet reluctantly. The few I met were actually not of my taste and very desperate ones. I can imagine there are lots of guys in SA talking a good game with no funds for sugar, girls only realize that after they meet. So, I understand girls point of view. Then I changed my tactics and if they insist before meet, I tell them my minimum which is 200, and give them a range and let them know the actual number depends on how we two connect, what we do and how long we hang out, giving them the poption to discuss further once we meet. My success rate for getting them to agree for M&G increased substantially with that answer. It gives them a minimum number to be comfortable with and if they can convince me, the possibility of a higher allowance. I can tell you honestly, I would not have met some fine girls that I had great time with if I insisted on the "no discussion on allowance before meet" policy. At the end I don't loose anything. My minimum allowance is 200 anyway, and in rare cases, I have given as much as 500. In general, my average actual allowance per meet is 250, and I have met very fine girls and with some of them I have ongoing dates. Different tactics work for different people. I don't approach sugar bowl as a game where you win or loose (or get ripped off). If I get a good experience that I get satisfaction and in turn if the girl gets a reasonable deal out of that, that's all matters. The same girl may ask for different allowance from different guys for the same experience. Actually it doesn't bother me, what matters to me is if I was happy with my experience. The scammers who want funds with no sugar given in return, I try to weed them out, and when I sniff something wrong, I cut them off early with minimum loss, and move on to the next.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]
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06-09-18 20:18 #15059
Posts: 5449Originally Posted by CantWinLosin [View Original Post]
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06-09-18 20:13 #15058
Posts: 5449Originally Posted by FarFarAway [View Original Post]
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06-09-18 17:03 #15057
Posts: 447Search box also missing
Originally Posted by RobHere [View Original Post]
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06-09-18 16:39 #15056
Posts: 43SA Profile Search no more appearing
I don't see the SA profile search text box. Is it me or for everyone? Very difficult to search profile.
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06-08-18 21:56 #15055
Posts: 1287Originally Posted by CoolPix [View Original Post]
One of the stupidest things I ever did was hand one of them my phone to connect spotify to a bluetooth speaker. Prior to that I never really thought about the fact that my real name was displayed on the settings menu -- one of those things I see so often I forget its there. Oops should have changed that long ago. From that part of the story on, it's just damage control and every next move is designed to never result in any "situation". She kept texting me for 6 months after that asking when I would see her again, I kept making excuses but making sure I never gave her reason to go digging. Finally told her I'd gotten involved with someone exclusively and she left me alone after that.
And of course, I changed the name on my phone after that.
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06-08-18 19:02 #15054
Posts: 669Originally Posted by DirtyDeeds38 [View Original Post]
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06-08-18 17:31 #15053
Posts: 62Yogapants
Originally Posted by CoolPix [View Original Post]
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06-08-18 10:40 #15052
Posts: 276Originally Posted by CoolPix [View Original Post]
I do not respond to threats, EVER. Threaten me, and it's on, I will not back down. I treat every girl I see right and am good to them all, but if they think they are going to play me like this, they are sadly mistaken. A lot of these early 20-somethings think they are not true adults and play the innocent act, thinking because you're an older man, they can take you down and they are justified. Send them back to reality, that they are adults and can face legal actions that will cost them dearly just like anyone else.
Two cents!
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06-08-18 07:59 #15051
Posts: 76Some recent sugar baby dreams
Just trying to get back into posting thought I'd leave a few dreams.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-fed9049f99b8
In my dream, I paid an allowance of 200. I definitely overpaid. I would avoid at all costs. Pictures are somewhat accurate although she's heavier now. Looks are maybe 4/10. Skills are 1/10 probably the worst I've had since fumbling around in a car in high school. But as always YMMV.
https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...f-4f439a6477fd
I've dreamed of her a couple of times. She's always freshly showered and sociable. Her looks are as depicted. Not full GFE. She's a go to if bored. Damage is between like 100-140 depending. Menu is limited.
I have more. I don't share contact info unless it's with a senior member or unless you have something worthwhile to offer.
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06-08-18 06:46 #15050
Posts: 5Good point
Originally Posted by LoVecchio [View Original Post]
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06-07-18 20:37 #15049
Posts: 76Originally Posted by Ltnric [View Original Post]
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06-07-18 20:32 #15048
Posts: 154I'm an Idiot
Originally Posted by JZLizard [View Original Post]
Of course, most of you are smart enough to already know this.
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06-07-18 20:23 #15047
Posts: 118Originally Posted by JZLizard [View Original Post]
Had an example of that this week. I'd been texting with a slim, "submissive" mid-30's MILF trying to find a time to meet. As always, I gave her my Google Voice number. We finally settled on meeting that night, and she wanted to call and "chat" before we got together. She spent the next hour+ talking almost literally non-stop the entire time, telling me all kinds of details about herself, her personal history, and her situation, with me occasionally making "mmhm" sounds and wondering how much longer she would keep going. I finally got her to stop talking, hung up, and booked a room. I already had concerns about this, but figured it was worth a shot.
She did show up and was real, but the talking and personality aspects were the same as on the phone. She kept talking about her dad being a famous businessman ("just google him!"), jobs she'd worked, and how she was in a semi-relationship with this one guy who had helped her out of a couple tough situations in the past ("but it's not romantic!"). She even kept trying to talk about him as I was kissing her. She was sorta wiling to have sex after that, except she wouldn't do oral since it was the first time we'd met, wouldn't get on top, and wanted me to "take ownership of her". Then she basically lay there like a starfish.
Afterwards, I kinda fast-talked my way through discussions of future meetings, and as soon as she was safely on her way home, I grabbed my stuff, bailed out, blocked her number and SA account, and deleted all chat history. That was just _too_ weird. So, between the Google Voice number, blocking her, and not giving out my real name, there's nothing for her to follow.
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06-07-18 18:58 #15046
Posts: 1287Originally Posted by GenevaGuy [View Original Post]