The Raleigh area "Sugar Bowl" (SA, WYP, SD4 ME)

**Mark User** · 10-02-17 15:19

Seen it mentioned a few times, read the FF, could not find its definition. I assume it is a "full consummation" or something similar to a SD / SB relationship?

**YayaGogo** · 10-02-17 15:03

Originally Posted by RWarNmsn69 [View Original Post]

Attached is a Facebook picture of the two women with "Carter" on the left and "Tatum" on the right. If you're currently in contact with these two, I'd recommend for you to cease all contact. You've been warned!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Interesting! The blonde asked to meet at a bar a couple of Friday's ago but I was busy and never replied.

Now I never will. Thanks for the heads up!

Yaya.

**StormyTuesday** · 10-01-17 18:10

Originally Posted by RWarNmsn69 [View Original Post]

StormyTuesday, you're still my hero! If I wasn't so much older than you, I'd hope to grow up and be just like you.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Thank you for saying that, tho you would be surprised if I told you my age (it is a closely guarded secret LOL) but I will only say that whenever a brother boasts of being twice the age of a particular SB I can't help but smirk. Good genes, good jeans and of course exercise and diet are part of the formula. BTW sent you a PM a few weeks ago, PM back when you can.

**RWarNmsn69** · 10-01-17 00:51

Originally Posted by RWarNmsn69 [View Original Post]

Aswerty9111, an old retired man can, that's who.

Avoid this woman and her partner, Tatumxo, like the plague. (Tatumxo has since blocked me on SA so I can't post a link for her.) I won't go into particulars but suffice it to say I got robbed. I had been talking to both of them for a couple of weeks but couldn't synchronize schedules and never realized that they were partners. I had talked to CarterM0208 on Tuesday evening so I wasn't surprised when she called me Wednesday morning. Fortunately, or should I say unfortunately, I was available. To make a long story short, I went out with them, got extremely intoxicated, and was taken advantage of. And not in the way I wanted to be taken advantage of. All I have left to say is I had to involve the local police so be careful out here!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Attached is a Facebook picture of the two women with "Carter" on the left and "Tatum" on the right. If you're currently in contact with these two, I'd recommend for you to cease all contact. You've been warned!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

**Joerdu** · 09-30-17 06:08

Originally Posted by YayaGogo [View Original Post]

This is my experience as well with regards to average donation amount, meeting places and local hotel costs. However, I prefer weekly ongoing arrangements where the SB considers it dependable income so many will lower their asking price for the ongoing stability I represent. It's up to the girl whether she likes you enough to do that, so be prepared to offer much more to convince her

On a related note, I've been overwhelmed by the response rate from incredibly hot girls recently and cannot keep up even while being extremely selective. I'm loving it while it lasts but is anyone else experiencing this?

I could not agree more. Talent is very strong right there and with just a little bit of game combined with being a nice, attractive, successful guy, the cost is dropping. More and more of the younger girls are really into it for the experience of being spoiled a bit and see what it can be like with an older guy. They are tired of. Guys their age.

**RWarNmsn69** · 09-29-17 20:19

Originally Posted by Aswerty9111 [View Original Post]

She seems strange to me. Hit me up out of nowhere today with her# . Said she didn't want allowance but just get away and have fun whether at the beach or a couples massage. I mean it's Wednesday who can do that??

Originally Posted by RWarNmsn69 [View Original Post]

Hi fellow SDs.

Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-ec1aca3e7d76.

She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,

Safe mongering and sugaring!

Aswerty9111, an old retired man can, that's who.

Avoid this woman and her partner, Tatumxo, like the plague. (Tatumxo has since blocked me on SA so I can't post a link for her.) I won't go into particulars but suffice it to say I got robbed. I had been talking to both of them for a couple of weeks but couldn't synchronize schedules and never realized that they were partners. I had talked to CarterM0208 on Tuesday evening so I wasn't surprised when she called me Wednesday morning. Fortunately, or should I say unfortunately, I was available. To make a long story short, I went out with them, got extremely intoxicated, and was taken advantage of. And not in the way I wanted to be taken advantage of. All I have left to say is I had to involve the local police so be careful out here!

Safe mongering and sugaring!

**YayaGogo** · 09-29-17 16:20

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment.

This is my experience as well with regards to average donation amount, meeting places and local hotel costs. However, I prefer weekly ongoing arrangements where the SB considers it dependable income so many will lower their asking price for the ongoing stability I represent. It's up to the girl whether she likes you enough to do that, so be prepared to offer much more to convince her if she's not as into you. If you're presentable and personable (not a dick) they'll be receptive to the idea. I agree that you need to have some game and know how and when to just assume the sale and set up the FC meet.

On a related note, I've been overwhelmed by the response rate from incredibly hot girls recently and cannot keep up even while being extremely selective. I'm loving it while it lasts but is anyone else experiencing this?

**Aswerty9111** · 09-27-17 19:57

Originally Posted by RWarNmsn69 [View Original Post]

Hi fellow SDs.

Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-ec1aca3e7d76.

She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,

Safe mongering and sugaring!

She seems strange to me. Hit me up out of nowhere today with her# . Said she didn't want allowance but just get away and have fun whether at the beach or a couples massage. I mean it's Wednesday who can do that??

**RWarNmsn69** · 09-27-17 13:11

Hi fellow SDs.

Does anyone have any information on CarterM0208 on SA? Here is her link: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...7-ec1aca3e7d76.

She mid 20's and gorgeous but seems a little flaky. I've been texting with her off and on for several days now and still no meeting scheduled. Thank you,

Safe mongering and sugaring!

**TokyoJeffRo** · 09-26-17 10:30

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.

I learn from my elders.

Thank you!

**RWarNmsn69** · 09-26-17 01:00

Originally Posted by StormyTuesday [View Original Post]

I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.

StormyTuesday, you're still my hero! If I wasn't so much older than you, I'd hope to grow up and be just like you.

Safe mongering and sugaring!

**StormyTuesday** · 09-25-17 22:24

Originally Posted by TokyoJeffRo [View Original Post]

Hi Everyone,

I'm a long time lurker, new poster. Thanks for your ongoing insights.

I've just joined the scene and have yet to achieve FC status. I'm close, but still weighing my options.

I had a meet and greet today and I could tell that what I had to spend on a monthly basis was missing a few zeroes based on her reaction and expectations.

I have a job and I have responsibilities. I can't come close to parsing out $1000 a month on an ongoing basis just to have a plaything (not to mention meals / gifts / hotels).

Are there really that many men who can afford this level of financial support out there? What are the average prices / market rate for various activities?

Should I get 3 more full time jobs or sell both my kidneys?

-Tokyo.

I have taken 40 plus SBs to the FC the past two years, and about half I saw 3 to ten times. I can tell you to plan on 200 for the SB per visit plus 80 for the hotel. Most of my M & Gs have been coffee or maybe an appetizer. Most of the SBs I did not take out to a meal on each visit but the ones I did I had more fun with getting to know them. $1000 is okay for maybe 3 FCs a month. But here is the real trick to this game. It's taking advantage of the timing. You get to a point in the texting (not on the SA site but on your phone) when you know they are ready to make it happen and you need to seize the moment. The catch is you may already spent $ 300 earlier that week and now you get your another SB you have been texting and you sense she is ready for an m & g. But at the M & G you don't want to postpone the hotel date (to the next week) if you sense she is ready now. You want to be in the hotel 30 minutes later. What I am trying to say is, if you are counting the dollars you may be in the wrong game. I personally budget 2000, but I don't spend that anymore bc I found a good one who can host, but I take her out to a very nice $50 lunch every week so she represents 1000 a month. Then I still have fun with a few others once or twice a month.

**SneakyMan** · 09-25-17 12:32

As promised. PM me for any additional details or other information.

Time wasters. Two types here, those that I messaged / text d / emailed a lot and then they disappear or blocked me and those that have a M&G, set something up for more, then disappear. Xstephanie, ashlynn3,redpinapple, babygirl302, gingalocks.

One or more meetings with benefits but not worth it in my opinion. Younghotblonde93, Dallas, few others I can't find now.

Got a couple that I can recommend, just moved on. 22 and 24 brunettes and 28 blonde. All slim.

Happy hunting.

**JMonger** · 09-25-17 04:14

After multiple messages and over an hour on the phone, I did a M&G with BabieChemist and was surprised to meet a BBW. Smart, nice personality, but not what I'm looking for.

The lovely pictures are definitely not up to date.

**SneakyMan** · 09-23-17 12:12

Hello all,

Wanted to post something simple to begin with. Been a SD for about 4 years in two different locations. Been in Raleigh about two years so have a bit of experience with some of the locals that I will share in another post. I'm still learning, guess you never really stop. Most of the advice here is really good and I agree. I have had 2 really good arrangements, they both moved. Several others that were so so and dropped them. Others that were one time FC.

Be careful out there.