Sugarbabies?

[EuroInCincy]

I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.

Have not found much game with Craigslist, but SA is like shooting fish in the barrel. Just avoid the GPS's.

[Zeotch2]

I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.

I've been fortunate and found a few college students via Craigslist who were willing to enter an SB / SD relationship on a per-meeting basis.

[Kystud]

I am a older gentleman looking for a sugar baby relationship looking for one lady to spoil and see regular if this interest anyone please message me.

[Dr Kenneth W]

Fellow mongers, a friend recently decided to experiment with a website dedicated to SB / SD relationships. It was pretty easy to find some ladies in need of help with bills. He found a lady in Western Hills that was so appreciative for a few bucks for car insurance that she let him abuse her mouth for a BBBJCIM. Now this lady is not going to win any beauty contests, but she does have a nice rack and is clean and some may even find her attractive if they are in to long hair and curves. She is mid 30's. She is willing to share pics. Her mouth was very soft and she could deep throat pretty well apparently, and the boys also were not left out of the action. She was willing to invite him over to her apartment, but he opted to drive to a large nearby park and have her go to town in the back seat. His favorite part was how she did not object to him bouncing her head up and down on his shaft like a basketball, and he is above average girth and length. She gagged a couple of times but my friend likes that. My friend believes that she is willing to be a CFS girl, because she does like to talk about how kinky she is, but he just wanted to abuse her mouth.

He received direct permission today to share digits because she could use some more help on some projects. Trusted seniors, if you are interested in the UTR types and are like my friend you can PM me for digits.

[DickHerDown]

Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.

I'm looking for something similar but it's very hard to find. I'm like you, in the fact that I don't like fat chicks, girls who stay in nasty motels, or drug users. The problem with most girls you'll find on this site is that there lives are incredibly fucked up. They can't rent an apartment or buy a car because their credit is awful and they have no way to prove their income. They typically have criminal records and never plan on getting a real job. Hell, think about the last time you're phone was turned off or you had "phone trouble" LOL. Happens to most providers daily. If that's the case, having an apt, paying utilities and such is way more than most can handle. I do agree that 2. 50 is way too much per visit. Of course the girl will have to be attracted to the daddy and the $ for this to work. Anyway, I'll continue to keep my eyes open for that perfect sugar baby.

[Cheech1]

Personally, I think the best way is to find a girl who will give you the time you ask for in return for you paying certain bills. Like the rent, utilities, and keeping the apartment stocked with food. Her apartment. Keep the lease in her name, the utilities in her name. So you have a basic expense of maybe a grand or $1200 a month. After that it becomes a matter of reward for better performance. So maybe you see her twice a week for the basic expense you are laying out. If she takes care of business, get her gift cards to buy clothes. Stock the place with some good liquor. A little spending cash. But, keep track. Is the liquor all gone when you stop by? Does she have new clothes to account for what you gave her? The point is you have some control over what's going on. Sure she can see other guys and make extra money. But, is she keeping clean? Is she always available for your pleasure, usually with notice?

Now, if she's not walking the walk, you can exercise your control. Stop paying the electric, the gas, the rent. The point is to keep control of what you're doing, not that you have her on a leash, but that you get what you're paying for.

Cheech.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.

How about $ per meet? Any girl will fuck you $$.5. But only a girl that is really into you (or desperate) will take the $. Either way you win.

[MisforMaster]

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

It's been my experience that if you're back to per-meeting math, you're going to get girls who flake out on you a lot sooner than the weekly / monthly girls or girls who have drug problems. I'm not going to name names, but I've had a few girls in the last year indicate that they're interested in exploring a different kind of arrangement, only to discover that their priorities involve Heroin and a needle.

[Todd Cincy]

Thanks. This is a great topic that we need more information about.

Here is my situation: I *am* looking for sex, not a quasi-girlfriend. While the quality of escorts has improved in recent years, I have high-end tastes. I'm really only interested in around 20% of the ladies who show up on USAG. I don't like rough types, middle-aged women, or overweights. I don't like incalls in sketchy parts of town. That weeds out a lot of the escorts for me.

I'm also reasonably good looking and fit, without being George Clooney. I'm in my mid-40's, far too old to be "boyfriend material" for most of these ladies.

My experience: an SB can generally be had on a per-meeting basis for about what a higher end escort would cost ($200 to $400). If someone wants $6 K per month from you, politely tell her "no thanks", and counter with $250 per meet.

There are many variables here, of course, but a sugar baby should not involve a monumental amount of money. Keep in mind, this is Gen why we're talking about, the "hook up" generation. Be polite and be a gentleman, but don't even think about promising someone a monthly allowance. (I always go pay-per-visit.).

My observation: over half of the women join Seeking Arrangements with unrealistic expectations, and end up dropping out in a few weeks or months. But there are definitely women who are willing to deal, who have fewer lifestyle issues and less mileage than the typical Backpage escort.

SBs are also *legal* I should add. This makes a huge difference to me.

Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

[MisforMaster]

Someone mentioned to me that he wanted to be a Sugar Daddy, but didn't really know where to look or what to look for, so, I wanted to take a few minutes and craft up a guide to those who are interested in this aspect of the lifestyle.

The first thing that you'll really need to look at is the amount of money that you're willing to spend. My general rule of thumb is between 10-20% of your take home pay. I'm a firm believer of two things: 1.) A SugarDaddy isn't a replacement for a job, and 2.) that your ideal SB is going to get a mixture of cash and gifts from you. Let's say you're making 200 K / year, and after Uncle Sam and everyone else gets their cut, you're bringing home $150 K. When you break that down, your SB "Allowance" is 22 K / year (or $1875/ month). I then try to take it a step further and try to split it 60/40 cash / expenses.

I try to avoid monthly arrangements -- it's risky for both you as well as the girl. I've also hit Paypal's Anti Money Laundering (and my Bank's own AML) list twice in the last two months; if I were to do a new sugarbaby it would be on a prepaid debit card that's in her name, and I'd just remotely load it from cash. Paypal will 1099-K you if you're depositing more than 10 K a year in their accounts, and I've been audited before from my SugarBaby 'donations' and it just turned into a headache (for both me as well as the girl).

SugarBabies are generally bad with managing their money -- it's ok to get them the occasional fancy gift, but, it makes much more sense to be practical. In the last year, I've bought laptops for school, car repairs, shoes, gift certificates to Express, and flowers for when they're having a bad day. A coach purse doesn't matter if she can't get her car started to come and see you.

Ultimately, you'll need to figure out what you're really looking for in a girl. If you're just looking for sex, get an escort (seriously, guys, isn't that why most of us are here? Your SugarBaby is going to be anywhere between a FWB and a serious girlfriend. Some will want to meet up once a week, some will want you to spend all week with them. Be honest with yourself, figure out what you're looking for, and go out for it.

Finding SugarBabies isn't that hard -- however, where you find them is usually a good indicator of what's going to happen. I've found out that CraigsList is probably the worst -- I've had girls quote me 6-10 K / month for two dinners and no overnights -- however, your mileage may vary. I've had relatively good luck with the one major Sugar Daddy website and the $60/ month fee netted me 84 different emails / phone numbers, and I ended up meeting / having dinner dates with 22 of them. I'm not saying that I'm George Clooney, but I like to think of myself as a semi-attractive guy, but, generally speaking, paying for more than a month is probably overkill if you're doing it right.

Try to ignore all of the "online" stuff. If all you need is a girl to chat with you via text / skype / kik or whatever, just go to a camsite -- you'll get exactly what you're looking for and generally at a fraction of the cost.

Also, stay away from the blogs and other sources online -- there are plenty of girls online who claim that they're bringing home 20 K a month from two different guys -- or guys who are claiming that they have five or ten SB's: they are gross exaggerations at best, but generally fake or driving traffic to a scummy website the rest of the time.

Don't ever give a girl money or a gift without coming to an agreement. Reiterate that in email and make sure that she's comfortable with everything. If she wants $1000 or however much to meetup to see if you're "real" or "serious," say no and move on to the next one. Don't be that asshole and take one for a "test drive," that makes you a really shitty person, and a scummy SugarDaddy. Ideally, I like to get the arrangement on the table before having the meetup, and try to get a feeling on whatever chemistry is out there as well. If she's not willing to say, or there isn't some chemistry, say no, and move on to the next one. It's perfectly normal to negotiate -- I start low and let her go higher -- I think that's how the game works best. Always meet in public: I've discovered that nice dinners are a great meetup places because she can dress up a bit (and you can gauge how serious she is about it -- if she looks like white trash when you go out someplace nice, you can say no and move on to the next one who would appreciate that a little more), you can grab a wine, and have a nice dinner with great conversation. I try to limit most meetups to a small kiss or something appropriate for the situation. You'll find out that you'll hit it off with some girls, and others not so much -- just like normal dating -- don't say insulting things, and don't take anything to heart; just move on.

If all you want is just sex, find an escort (god knows we have plenty of them in Cincy! But, sex is a part of an arrangement even if you don't like to acknowledge it. Don't expect to jump into bed with her on your first date, and if you want to have fun and good sex, you'll want to be comfortable with each other. Don't schedule it nor make it seem like a formality.

If you have any questions, or need advice, please let me know.

[Tcoupe]

I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.

I wish I was I was a baller.

[NKY747]

I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.

I took that as very genuine Natti. Very nice looking woman as well, in my area too. .

I've had an interesting mix with SB's in the cincy area. I had one experience where we were a good match on paper, but, in person, we were polar opposites. I had another match who landed up in Jail, and then had some really bad luck with a string of Heroin users. I've had local SB's try to mix me in with three or four other SD's in the area: There's nothing like being told that you're not on her appointment list because you're not giving her what her other 'daddy' is giving her, and then one SB who would blame me for the rain when the DirecTV (that I paid for) would go out when a thunderstorm would roll through.

But, as I've 'lost' a few, I've definitely 'won' a few as well -- I've got a 20 year old college student now as a SB and that works out really well for me -- it's a mix of phone calls, text messages, and snapchats throughout the week if I'm traveling, and the same assortment of calls, text messages, and snapchats if I'm at home with the added benefit of being able to call her up just about anytime for whatever play is warranted. She takes my money and shops with it; either for herself or for us (when I landed back home tonight, she had dinner waiting on me when I got home, followed by something very sexy that I know she just bought last week and some new 'hardware' on her body): all for right around $2 k / month. I'll pay for her to travel with me if she wants to (she's gone to Florida and Vegas with me a few times). Honestly, she's cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend, with the same level of emotional attachment, better sex, and less drama or bullshit (I've gained numerous ex-girlfriends from my job's stress, hours, and travel -- it seems different, but, who knows). I found this one on a website and just sat realistic expectations with her: she's happy, I'm happy, and as long as I wrap my shit up, she's happy with whatever and whoever else I want to do. Still cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend.

Great reply. I was working on a 20 year old months ago, felt right, looked right, sounded right. Output didn't match input. Crisis mode that there was no toilet paper in the house, now 'that's' a problem.

The best $60 ever spent was the money I lent, never heard from her again. Not a bad looking woman but she was aiming too high too fast and the dividends were few and far between. I needed her like an unhealed wound, know there's decent ones out there to enjoy.

[Hairy2]

After many half-starts, I got a SB worth holding on to. Single mom in a bad way, attractive and in her lower 20's. I might introduce her to the site if her situation does not improve soon. Definitely not a drug user either.

I suggested the opportunity for her to improve her situation, and she did not feel the risk / reward worked in her favor. Lucky me, I am the only supplement to her income (and sole supplier of a special pro biotic nutritional supplement).

[Natti Gfe]

I'm a escort and I had someone that would take me out shopping or out to eat or just to hang out but the guy moveI would love to have someone like that again I would love get close to someone an pamper me an I would take care of him I might not have much but I do have a loving heart an would be there for them at there back en call.

Love Natti / alliso.

[MisforMaster]

In the ones that do go distance, the end can be really messy if you're the one that's throwing down the disconnect switch. I recently went through this with one and I was blamed for everything including flat tires, out of gas, you name it. Funny how quickly things got reversed back out with their situation improving in just a few short weeks.

My recorrection if I was to go through this again (and I will) will be to keep it at an arm's length, that way it never gets close or dependent on my time and effort.

I've had an interesting mix with SB's in the cincy area. I had one experience where we were a good match on paper, but, in person, we were polar opposites. I had another match who landed up in Jail, and then had some really bad luck with a string of Heroin users. I've had local SB's try to mix me in with three or four other SD's in the area: There's nothing like being told that you're not on her appointment list because you're not giving her what her other 'daddy' is giving her, and then one SB who would blame me for the rain when the DirecTV (that I paid for) would go out when a thunderstorm would roll through.

But, as I've 'lost' a few, I've definitely 'won' a few as well -- I've got a 20 year old college student now as a SB and that works out really well for me -- it's a mix of phone calls, text messages, and snapchats throughout the week if I'm traveling, and the same assortment of calls, text messages, and snapchats if I'm at home with the added benefit of being able to call her up just about anytime for whatever play is warranted. She takes my money and shops with it; either for herself or for us (when I landed back home tonight, she had dinner waiting on me when I got home, followed by something very sexy that I know she just bought last week and some new 'hardware' on her body): all for right around $2 k / month. I'll pay for her to travel with me if she wants to (she's gone to Florida and Vegas with me a few times). Honestly, she's cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend, with the same level of emotional attachment, better sex, and less drama or bullshit (I've gained numerous ex-girlfriends from my job's stress, hours, and travel -- it seems different, but, who knows). I found this one on a website and just sat realistic expectations with her: she's happy, I'm happy, and as long as I wrap my shit up, she's happy with whatever and whoever else I want to do. Still cheaper than a bona fide girlfriend.