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07-02-13 20:21 #3897
Posts: 483Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]
Side note: my SA membership just expired and suddenly I got a bunch of favorites and winks from some pretty far off places. LOL
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07-02-13 19:58 #3896
Posts: 5453Pricing
I have an X SB that always calls me for advice. I met her just as she was going from giving it away free to non pro status (I was her first SD). Typical hot early thirties gal (8/10/9/10) that can't get enough. Her current lineup.
1. A so called real BF that has no clue what she does. He civi dates her like any upscale young man would. She tells me she is in love with him.
2. A 40's SD that she is HOT for that pays $ or $$ per date. She will run to fuck him anytime he calls which is a couple times a month.
3. A 40's sugar couple that pays $$$ per date. They have to beg to see her once a week.
4. A 50's SD that she is NOT attracted to at all. $$$$$ per date. He has to beg on his hands and knees to see her.
She is totally UTR and only works by natural selection or referral (she is not on any sites). So when you meet these girls be aware that they may and do have a lot going on sometimes no matter what they say. Her pricing is perfectly aligned to her attraction level. I may rag a little on overpaying and every situation is different, but this is a prime example of why paying less doesn't necessarily constitute chiseling. In this specific case it's an indicator of true attraction.
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07-02-13 19:49 #3895
Posts: 5453Originally Posted by FotoGuy1970 [View Original Post]
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07-02-13 18:21 #3894
Posts: 5453Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]
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07-02-13 17:19 #3893
Posts: 127Sin City SBs
On a whim, I'm going out to Sin City for a few days, as a Vegas first timer. Already making contact with some potentials through SA, looking to find a playmate or two while I'm out there. Have some promising leads, will give further reports as time permits.
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07-02-13 16:48 #3892
Posts: 483Originally Posted by Smokarz_XO [View Original Post]
Showed up at the appointed time at the FC. Upon opening up the door, I almost had an instant hard on. She showed up with this black / red, body hugging mini dress (with no undies, which I found out later).
And she was a tall girl. Now I am a little guy, about 5'4 and she's almost 5'7, probably close to 5'9 with her high heels on. She immediately took off her heels as I jokingly said I felt like a midget. LOL, nice gal.
I managed to have small talks for about 10-15 minutes, then had her got up on the bed so I can take some pics. Soon after, I had my cock in her mouth. You gents know the rest. I am terrible at story telling so I'll spare you all the pain of having to read my long ass boring post.
Spent about an hour together and left $ with her on the way out.
Now, this is something that happens to me for the first time. About an hour after we parted, she txt me to say thanks and hope that I had a great time, which I replied yes I did and look forward to seeing her again.
The next day she txt me and said she likes to have $$.5 the next time, and I politely stated that it's not within my budget and she directed me back to her profile which she said that she was seeking $1k a month. Then I again politely told her that I don't pay attention to those requested allowances because girls put ridiculous amount in there and that she should have clarified with me before we met and I apologize for the confusion. I then wish her luck, and ended at that.
Then the next day she said she would like to see me again and she wouldn't expect more than what I've given her, until she could find an arrangement that is better. Got that? She'll fuck me for less until some prince shows up with a bigger coffer. LOL.
I don't know if I will be seeing her again. She gave me a bad vibe, and she made herself looks like a semi-pro / UTR type. But I am still tempted to hit that again as she was quite good in bed and up for anything I wanted.
I don't know what's up with these young single moms, but they are genuinely horny and very enthusiastic in bed. Not to mention, still pretty tight after popping out babies.
Oh, did I mentioned she's Italian? French/Italian to be exact. So I've been banging Italian HYMs as of late. My luck I guess.
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07-02-13 14:59 #3891
Posts: 616Shenandoah Valley
I'd like to refer my friends here to a post I did in the Shenandoah area:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post1805540
It refers to a girl who has been in the SB world but now seems to be leaning into the selective hooker world with GPS.
Regards.
GW
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07-02-13 12:44 #3890
Posts: 526A little late to the Pop Quiz Discussion
Revvo: It is a tricky problem to have. Make sure that you keep in mind your ultimate goal and be as smooth as possible getting to that. If the goal is to get her at a price that you can afford, then check what you can afford and offer it to her and move on. If the goal is to get her as cheap as possible, try that, but know there is risk involved. Whatever the goal, be diligent and check to see if your words will compromise that goal.
I have spent a lot of time in the $150 or less per visit range. As I came across so many flakes, I decided that if the sex was going to be mediocre and the passion was going to be limited, then I'd go for quantity. However, I've always had my eye open for quality. I've been prepared to kick out the 1000+ per month for the right quality. But because of that amount and my ability to have such variety and fun with the lower quality ones, to make that kind of commitment, then I need the ability to see a person at least 6 times a month with one to two overnights thrown in there.
So as stated before, there are times where we may be on either side of the fence on that topic. Overall, I prefer when I have that one with high quality in all areas and I'm willing to up my sugar accordingly. In the end, a few hundred per month should not keep a true SD away from the woman who meets all of his qualifications. When she feels appreciated appropriately, it usually results in lots of positives for the SD.
Assuming that the sex is fine, I'm getting into my first full blown arrangement in a long time with MsLatinaCoed. She's beautiful, sexy, smart, etc. She is a top quality SB. To the point where I had to make some tough decisions on how to handle her, this includes giving a certain amount upfront. I was at first hesitant, but I knew I was upgrading my talent and there are costs that come with that. Once she agreed to meet at least twice a week and weekends away, then I knew the money would actually be less than what I normally spend.
So I'm taking the leap of faith and giving her 1/2 of the monthly allowance today and the other 1/2 on the 15th. This is a happy medium for us both. If I'm right I'll be at $.25 per meeting without hotel costs and minimum dating costs. It's just out of my comfort zone to give this amount in advance. She's told me that after I pay on the first by the time she finishes with me, I'll definitely be paying the allowance on the 15th. If I'm wrong I'm out of $$$$$ and I'm back to having no faith in the human race, LOL. It's a classic case of trusting intuition. However full disclosure, I've lost more with my intuition before. I have her name, address, bank account, etc. I've not picked up on any of the normal red flags.
In Closing (In my best Jerry Springer Voice)
Sometimes we have to get out of our financial comfort zone for the truly high quality SBs. Yet even when she's staring us in the face, we are wired to be skeptical yet optimistic. Each action runs the risk of us being in emotional and physical bliss, squandering the opportunity for such or being taken for our hard earned cash. As SDs, we are constantly seeking the balance of trust and money, this is an inexact science and there isn't a rule book for every situation. At minimum we can hope to minimize financial damage and have some great stories to tell. This is why we have the board and each other here.
BigTigg
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07-02-13 08:41 #3889
Posts: 319Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]
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07-02-13 03:40 #3888
Posts: 317Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]
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07-02-13 03:11 #3887
Posts: 5453Originally Posted by BikeRider [View Original Post]
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07-02-13 00:37 #3886
Posts: 101Originally Posted by Golfcart [View Original Post]
Some Will.
Some Won't.
So What.
Next
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07-01-13 22:58 #3885
Posts: 313Pop Quiz answers
GUys these answers are some great responses particularly I enjoyed John G. 's analysis. Because it so much paralleled my experience and how I am feeling.
I too go through these same emotions and have the same desires for a quality ATF experience and I sometimes wonder if I sabotage myself when I get too locked down in the pursuit of the next baby instead of focusing on my ATF.
These really help.
I will let you know what happens.
Revvo
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07-01-13 21:10 #3884
Posts: 1420Pop Quiz Hotshot! What would you do?
Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Revvo [View Original Post]
P.S. I do not agree with others posting that Sofia has GPS. We don't know what she wants. All we know is she was not happy with 150. That's no indication of GPS.
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07-01-13 20:02 #3883
Posts: 317Originally Posted by HollywoodGuy [View Original Post]Originally Posted by John G Smith [View Original Post]
The flip side of both of these approaches is the fact that we all enjoy the thrill of the chase and the "I'd rather fuck a 6 three times than a 10 once" viewpoint. Sometimes I get in that mode, too.