"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Droo89** · 03-15-12 02:28

I had let my SA membership lapse as I was planning on focusing my attention on my current babies. Of course I got several messages from hotties from the Ukraine and Malaysia, but I also got two responses from messages I had put out awhile ago. I was intrigued enough to re-up my membership. One of them being an incredibly cute / hot young (20) college student. We've exchanged several messages back and forth and she seems to dig me. My last message to her was an invitation to lunch next week. Haven't heard back yet. My question to why'all is this: She has only one picture up. It's captivating, to say the least. As per my usual technique, I try to get them to go off site to continue our conversation via email. She basically ignored that, but the witty, intelligent banter kept me intrigued. I hope I'm wrong, but I think I might be flirting with some lonely dude! Think about it for a second, anyone can create a profile on the site. When I joined it was as simple as a mouse click stating I was a male! We'll see. Like I said, I really really hope I'm wrong!

The other response I got was from someone local. (I don't like to fish in my own pond, too close to home. My profession puts me in close contact with exactly the type of young lady who might be seeking this.) I sent her a brief message saying hello and that I was interested in getting to know her. The pictures she has public just show her incredibly tight young body. I didn't give her access to my pictures, but told her to message me and would send her a pic. She granted me entry to her private pics and, yep you guessed it, I recognized her. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. It gets better though! About a year ago I went to a bar near my place after being out with some friends. It was dead there. While drinking my beer I couldn't help but make eye contact with the bartender. Young, blonde, sexy and incredibly tight. The perfect little package. She notices me giving her looks. Walks down to my end, stops halfway and grabs a bottle of Tequila and two shot glasses. Mosies over and looks me dead in the eye and introduces herself. Pours us each a shot and we start to talk. It was late, closing time was near. She told me I should stick around and wait in the back of the bar. After shooing the other patrons out she walks back to me lighting up a joint. We sit on the couch smoking and proceed to have an incredible make out session (that I still think about!). It's getting late, so I have to pull myself from her. Reluctantly. I never went back. Too close to home. I'm sure you see where this is going. Same girl. How would why'all proceed with this?

Nite.

**UKnowWho** · 03-15-12 01:25

Thanks for the input, all. One thing that's interesting to me is that at least half a dozen girls I emailed my $-for-dinner offer read the email but didn't even reply. I wonder if they thought I was too cheap, or too desperate. Or maybe they were girls who are looking for a more loosely-defined arrangement.

I am coming from the escort side, so I am used to getting what I want with no work at all. So, I don't have the patience yet that some of you guys talk about, and don't find any enjoyment in that "chase". But, I do think I am going to at least reduce my initial offer to. 50 in hopes of not setting expectations too high for future meetings, as suggested.

Three texts on Monday to my 23YO Asian went unanswered and I thought she'd changed her mind, but then I sent one more on Tuesday morning and she wrote back. She was very worried about the law, even though we never even remotely agreed to do anything illegal. I was able to persuade her to come out, though, and we met for the agreed $$$$ for the night. On one hand, that's a lot compared to what's usually reported here, but on the other hand, I've paid that without regret for an hour with an escort before. With her, I got an hour of conversation over dinner plus two hours in bed, and it was more intimate than with an escort, so I'm happy.

She definitely has a little princess in her. We were crossing the street going to the restaurant and she said "Damn, aren't you going to hold my hand? We're crossing a street!" And she stopped at every door and waited for me to open it for her. Kinda cute, but all that could be taken too far. Anyway, I am curious to see what will happen when I try to arrange our next night for our agreed-upon $$/night rate. I hereby pledge to you guys that I will hold the line and tell her bye if she tries to shake me down for more, LOL.

So far no more from the white girl I met and unsuccessfully haggled with last week.

**AliasSM** · 03-14-12 21:27

Welcome to the party Joe. It's been an eye opener for me also and am enjoying every minute. Sounds like you had a nice run going with your ATF. Hopefully it will only get better from here.

Alias

Originally Posted by JoesParty [View Original Post]

Gentlemen,

Like many others here, I'm an out-of-towner who stumbled on this thread by accident. I've read it nearly cover to cover in two days. It's like a trashy, bodice-ripping novel, and I mean that with the utmost respect and admiration.

I haven't seriously considered the SB route before; I stick mainly with pros and strip clubs. But my ATF has professed a desire to leave the state soon (and I'm inclined to believe she's serious) , so I thought I'd research the possibility of trying my hand at being an SD. The information provided here has been tremendous, and I hope I can pay it back with my own intel and insights as time progresses. Thank you, all.

Here's my back story for those interested. My largely-absent landlord takes little notice in my comings and goings and isn't the least bit interested in the family finances, so I have a lot of time on my hands. I live in Metro Detroit, so the diverse population and relatively dire economic times lend themselves to some fine prospects on both the pro and stripper fronts. I've had successful experiences with both, but I tend to try to spend most of my time with my ATF.

Ah, the ATF. After reading these threads, I realized that I more or less back-doored my way into a SD / SB relationship without even knowing it. She is a dancer-that's how we met-so I guess she's not an SB, strictly speaking. I know that she "does what she needs to do" to make money, and I am not delusional enough to believe that I'm the only guy she's inviting home. But in the year we've been seeing each other (yes, almost a year now!) , she has never once brought up money after the very first time. Not once. Taking it outside the club was her idea, on the premise that I would give her what I normally would in the club, and we could spend more time together. Since then, we've had a wonderful relationship. I guess she's what you all would call an UTR pro, in that she does not advertise. But I also would guess she's closer to SB status than most pros, in that the majority of her money comes from only a couple sources. I prefer not to dwell on those particular details.

Anyway, I digress. I took a quick spin through SA today for the first time and was intrigued. In addition to our large and diverse population, we are blessed with a number of small and medium-size universities and colleges, as well as the big one down the road in Ann Arbor. I was especially intrigued by the 19 year old student who posted: "I was a cheerleader for 8 years so I'm very open minded." Haha! I am hopeful I will someday test that theory, even if I don't exactly understand the logic.

Best wishes to all of the regular posters, and thanks again for the great reading.

Regards,

Joe

**JoesParty** · 03-14-12 19:56

Gentlemen,

Like many others here, I'm an out-of-towner who stumbled on this thread by accident. I've read it nearly cover to cover in two days. It's like a trashy, bodice-ripping novel, and I mean that with the utmost respect and admiration.

I haven't seriously considered the SB route before; I stick mainly with pros and strip clubs. But my ATF has professed a desire to leave the state soon (and I'm inclined to believe she's serious) , so I thought I'd research the possibility of trying my hand at being an SD. The information provided here has been tremendous, and I hope I can pay it back with my own intel and insights as time progresses. Thank you, all.

Here's my back story for those interested. My largely-absent landlord takes little notice in my comings and goings and isn't the least bit interested in the family finances, so I have a lot of time on my hands. I live in Metro Detroit, so the diverse population and relatively dire economic times lend themselves to some fine prospects on both the pro and stripper fronts. I've had successful experiences with both, but I tend to try to spend most of my time with my ATF.

Ah, the ATF. After reading these threads, I realized that I more or less back-doored my way into a SD / SB relationship without even knowing it. She is a dancer-that's how we met-so I guess she's not an SB, strictly speaking. I know that she "does what she needs to do" to make money, and I am not delusional enough to believe that I'm the only guy she's inviting home. But in the year we've been seeing each other (yes, almost a year now!) , she has never once brought up money after the very first time. Not once. Taking it outside the club was her idea, on the premise that I would give her what I normally would in the club, and we could spend more time together. Since then, we've had a wonderful relationship. I guess she's what you all would call an UTR pro, in that she does not advertise. But I also would guess she's closer to SB status than most pros, in that the majority of her money comes from only a couple sources. I prefer not to dwell on those particular details.

Anyway, I digress. I took a quick spin through SA today for the first time and was intrigued. In addition to our large and diverse population, we are blessed with a number of small and medium-size universities and colleges, as well as the big one down the road in Ann Arbor. I was especially intrigued by the 19 year old student who posted: "I was a cheerleader for 8 years so I'm very open minded." Haha! I am hopeful I will someday test that theory, even if I don't exactly understand the logic.

Best wishes to all of the regular posters, and thanks again for the great reading.

Regards,

Joe

**Hernando** · 03-14-12 11:35

Here! I am 63 so it hit a little close to home. What a way to go! That story probably freaked out a lot of coed SBs in the world.

**Bunker Buster** · 03-14-12 05:50

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

Thought of my brothers upon reading this article.

The article states that the "Sex was quite literally a killer". Man 63, dies after sex wtih 23 yr old (sounds like HYCB)

<edit delete The * College student told police that she began an affair with * over a year ago, and that he would give her money to buy school books in exchange for sex.

Police will not pursue prostitution charges, because the woman said * did not give her money that day.

Read more:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/13/or...h-23-year-old/

The last paragraph of the story reads "Cxxxxxx is survived by his wife and children, who may have been surprised that this is the way his life ended. Not with a whimper, but a bang."

Right next to this on the page is an ad reading "Jesus Christ is Lord."

This is either a coincidence, or the author of this poor fellow's demise is taking credit, and sending the rest of us a message.

**Castlerae** · 03-13-12 21:51

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

Thought of my brothers upon reading this article.

The article states that the "Sex was quite literally a killer". Man 63, dies after sex wtih 23 yr old (sounds like HYCB)

<edit delete The * College student told police that she began an affair with * over a year ago, and that he would give her money to buy school books in exchange for sex.

Police will not pursue prostitution charges, because the woman said * did not give her money that day.

Read more:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/13/or...h-23-year-old/

Reminds me of that episode of "Hill Street Blues" where the old desk sergeant dies while having sex, and one of the beat cops quips "Well, at least he went out trying to plant the flag on Iwo Jima!"

Good for you brother!

**Castlerae** · 03-13-12 21:48

Originally Posted by F Scott [View Original Post]

In browsing the newest profiles on SA this morning, I came across one of a young baby taken of her at work - on stage at a strip club! Maybe should have thought that one through a little bit, huh? She lists her occupation as "professional." Professional what, exactly?

Not all strippers "work professionally", as in work as providers. I know one who's a definite 9+, and after much asking around, I can't find any evidence that she does anything but dance at the club. If I thought she was available, I'd be tempted to sacrifice a testicle for a weekend of 'no holes barred' sex with her.

**Golfcart** · 03-13-12 17:17

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

(Edit Delete) Man 63, dies after sex with 23 yr old (sounds like HYCB) (Edit Delete) The * College student told police that she began an affair with * over a year ago, and that he would give her money to buy school books in exchange for sex. Police will not pursue prostitution charges, because the woman said * did not give her money that day. Read more:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/13/or...h-23-year-old/

"He" wasn't me. I'm still alive.

**F Scott** · 03-13-12 16:59

Originally Posted by Varoom [View Original Post]

Thought of my brothers upon reading this article.

The article states that the "Sex was quite literally a killer". Man 63, dies after sex with 23 yr old (sounds like HYCB)

<edit delete The * College student told police that she began an affair with * over a year ago, and that he would give her money to buy school books in exchange for sex.

I'm sure I speak for us all when I say that this man is an inspiration. This is how I want to go out - between the thighs of a 23 yo HCB! (Though not for some time yet!) The article did not say, but if there is a memorial fund, I'm sending 20 bucks.

Farewell, me brother, we wish we knew ye!

Scott

**Varoom** · 03-13-12 16:50

Thought of my brothers upon reading this article.

The article states that the "Sex was quite literally a killer". Man 63, dies after sex wtih 23 yr old (sounds like HYCB)

<edit delete The * College student told police that she began an affair with * over a year ago, and that he would give her money to buy school books in exchange for sex.

Police will not pursue prostitution charges, because the woman said * did not give her money that day.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/03/13/or...h-23-year-old/

**Spitfire** · 03-13-12 11:42

Originally Posted by BigTigger [View Original Post]

Don't forget sugardaddie dot com, most of mine are from there.

Glad you've had success there, but I hate that site since you can only search at the state level. I see no point in opening communication with someone just to find out they are 5-6 hours away.

**F Scott** · 03-13-12 10:24

In browsing the newest profiles on SA this morning, I came across one of a young baby taken of her at work - on stage at a strip club! Maybe should have thought that one through a little bit, huh? She lists her occupation as "professional." Professional what, exactly?

**BigTigger** · 03-13-12 08:33

Originally Posted by Zman429 [View Original Post]

Same here. Try seekingarrangements. Com.

On a side note, I was getting my haircut today and the girl complained 4-5 times about working too much and not getting away, hmmm.

Don't forget sugardaddie dot com, most of mine are from there.

**Bigsqueeze** · 03-13-12 08:20

Originally Posted by UKnowWho [View Original Post]

.<snip> . Convenience is a large part of my motivation for trying this.

Back in the day, over a decade ago, when it WAS possible to score off of AFF, I kept a file of what "prose" worked for me and when it came time to reel in a new babe all I did was copy and paste. Even with the follow-ups emails. Once you write good work, use it! Makes multiple contacts and follow-ups a snap!

Gents, thanks for such an informative and vicariously entertaining forum.