Strip Club Reports

**Stripper Luv** · 12-16-10 22:18

Got word CS was closed yesterday and today. A sign on the door says they will reopen Friday. I just got a call from a dancer friend who says that management contacted her and said the club won't open on Friday either.

Several rumors surrounding the closing. One is that they are closed due to liquor license compliance. Another rumor says they are closed due to a new owner. I'm not sure if they are referring to the current new owner or if it means a different new owner (Bunny Farm owners have been mentioned). Word is that negotiations are not going well in either scenario which is why reopening is a day-to-day situation.

Whatever the reason, dancers and staff are out of work at Christmastime with no end in sight. Not a good thing.

**Willy949** · 12-16-10 20:28

Originally Posted by Kirstyforme [View Original Post]

Just rec'd a strange message from a dancer at CS. She said the club was closed? Anyone know details?

K4me

I was in the area and swung by CS late this afternoon to check the report. It was closed and there is not any sign on the door to explain why. The parking lot was empty and there was not any sign of construction or renovation work. Certainly strange and sudden. Anyone know why? Seems to not be planned since they were in the middle of promoting a "stripper contest" for the season.

W

**Fs Lvr** · 12-16-10 16:52

I just gave them a call. No answer.

**Kirstyforme** · 12-16-10 13:07

Just rec'd a strange message from a dancer at CS. She said the club was closed? Anyone know details?

K4me

**Stripper Luv** · 12-13-10 18:17

Was there on a Monday afternoon. Six customers including me. I waited 25 minutes and never saw a dancer except the one on stage rotation. I know there were dancers there because they kept showing up on stage but then they disappeared. I left. This place is a complete bore. And $6. 75 for a soda? Seriously?

**Arizona Junkie** · 12-13-10 00:23

My guess is that the basis for this whole experiment is for the club to be able to argue even more strongly that the girls are independent contractors and not employees. There are several court cases going on around the country that are challenging the notion that dancers are independent. The IRS has several criteria used to evaluate whether a specific arrangement constitutes and employee versus contractor, and if the dancers are supposedly setting their own prices, this supports the independent contractor argument. This is important to club owners, primarily for tax reasons, but also for things like worker's comp insurance which they would presumably have to provide to "employees". They will figure out a way to deal with the low tipouts, probably just a flat, inflated house fee.

**Mrfiness** · 12-11-10 20:14

Me and some of the boys went to blow off some steam at curves Friday@10ish. Place was packed. We got seated at one of the smaller stages and enjoyed a good mix of ladies. I got a few dances from the servers which produced a couple numbers. I also connected with Mercy. Didn't go VIP even though she tried but she suggested take out. Ill have to repost and let you know the results. Take out is def available so check your menu!

**Desert Dog** · 12-10-10 19:57

Originally Posted by Stripper Luv [View Original Post]

CS will be installing camaras. For sure. They are also prohibiting dancers from buying drinks so customers have to buy them a drink. Expect to get hit up for dancer drinks. Also, management has given incentives to the dancers, doormen, and bouncers to rat on dancers who do naughty things. Apparently the incentives are working because nothing is going on and I've been told by a reliable FS dancer that she's not doing it any more because she needs the job. Now the only reason to go to the VIP is to exchange phone numbers with potentially worthwhile conquests for outside service.

Problem at TDs East and West. It seems this "no set price for dancers" is causing trouble with the management. (It's always been a problem for customers.) With the "negotiate a price" policy, the dancers are now tipping out a very minimal amount. The management is complaining that the dancers must be negotiating "3¢ dances the way they are tipping out." Managers can keep track of the number of dances a stripper does, but that doesn't mean they are going to get any percentage out of it under these conditions. So, look for a return to the "menu prices" for dances sometime.

Well SL,

It seems like this was all sure to happen, but a long time coming. It certainly brings a tear to my eye when I look back on all the different super fine Chicas that have serviced me in one way or another in that VIP over the years. As far as going to the VIP to exchange numbers. The hell with that she can give it to me on the floor if she is wanting to earn the Benjamins! And really what incentive do I have to be buying a drink for these girls since there is no opportunity for relatively immediate playtime once they have worked up a buzz. Seems to me that the new ownership will see a pretty significant drop in visitors and income once the action stops. That VIP in my opinion is the one thing that has really kept that club going over the last five years, without it they would have closed the doors a long time ago in this economic climate.

As far as TD's East and West goes the few times I have stopped in at East, since the implementation of that ridiculous house rule, there has never been more than five guys in the place and very few dollars being passed to the dancers. I personally have a stable of a few dancers that basically still charge me the same old rates regardless, because they are fully aware that once we get to the VIP for a little fun-time they are going to get a fairly gratuitous tip as they always had. Honestly I still think that the West club is so ghetto that I simply do not frequent the establishment. And really I have no sympathy for the management that is getting screwed on the deal, because their only real motive was greed! Taxes on my drink indeed!

Holiday Cheers to your mongering,

D DOg

**Stripper Luv** · 12-09-10 20:03

CS will be installing camaras. For sure. They are also prohibiting dancers from buying drinks so customers have to buy them a drink. Expect to get hit up for dancer drinks. Also, management has given incentives to the dancers, doormen, and bouncers to rat on dancers who do naughty things. Apparently the incentives are working because nothing is going on and I've been told by a reliable FS dancer that she's not doing it any more because she needs the job. Now the only reason to go to the VIP is to exchange phone numbers with potentially worthwhile conquests for outside service.

Problem at TDs East and West. It seems this "no set price for dancers" is causing trouble with the management. (It's always been a problem for customers.) With the "negotiate a price" policy, the dancers are now tipping out a very minimal amount. The management is complaining that the dancers must be negotiating "3¢ dances the way they are tipping out." Managers can keep track of the number of dances a stripper does, but that doesn't mean they are going to get any percentage out of it under these conditions. So, look for a return to the "menu prices" for dances sometime.

**Squishy666** · 12-04-10 16:35

Can't prove that the policy has changed for everything, but I was paying an even number (no change) for bottled water there last night. Mad action available in the VIP, as well.

**Stripper Luv** · 12-02-10 19:04

Both of these are at Candy Store, daytime:

Latina.

Marilyn.

Highly recommended

**Willy949** · 11-28-10 23:58

Originally Posted by Stripper Luv [View Original Post]

TDs East is the least welcoming club in Tucson. I was there 45 minutes on a Friday afternoon and never got asked for a dance. There were only 7 customers in the place. All the dancers hibernate in the back rather than work the floor. The only time you see a dancer is when she pops up on stage. Add to that the outrageous drink prices. $6. 50 for a club soda that other clubs charge $2-$3. 50 for? Seriously, Michelle?

Let's keep going. This new policy about no set dance prices puts the customer in an adversarial negotiating position with the dancer. That's a mood killer. Of course that's assuming a dancer emerges from the back room and actually asks to dance for you.

The inhospitality continues. The last three times I've been there the waitress never thanked me for my payment which included a 30% tip.

Finally, the most aggravating of all is that tax is added to the price of everything-$6. 54 for drinks, $21. 80 for VIP admission, etc. All the other clubs in town have all-inclusive pricing. Unless the dancers are going to start wearing pockets in their outfits, then stop the penny, nickel, dime shit.

TDs East is the coldest, most inhospitable club in town. No wonder it's usually vacant when I go there.

Yes, I couldn't agree more with SL's assessment. Also goes for the sister club West on most points. Between the sales tax nuttiness and the negotiation for each verbal encounter, it is hardly a relaxing place. And, isn't relaxation what one goes to a club for?

I think I've only been to TDs E once in the last few months. And, that was only pleasant because I saw a dancer I've know for 10+ years. She offered a reasonable package rate for several dances in VIP and we enjoyed the time without further negotiating nonsense. But I don't see that with other dancers I don't know well. Is there a marketing lesson to be learned here?

I've pretty much given up on TDs for the time being. Someone let us know if policy changes in a positive direction.

Then I'll be back.

W

**Stripper Luv** · 11-27-10 01:00

TDs East is the least welcoming club in Tucson. I was there 45 minutes on a Friday afternoon and never got asked for a dance. There were only 7 customers in the place. All the dancers hibernate in the back rather than work the floor. The only time you see a dancer is when she pops up on stage. Add to that the outrageous drink prices. $6.50 for a club soda that other clubs charge $2-$3.50 for? Seriously, Michelle?

Let's keep going. This new policy about no set dance prices puts the customer in an adversarial negotiating position with the dancer. That's a mood killer. Of course that's assuming a dancer emerges from the back room and actually asks to dance for you.

The inhospitality continues. The last three times I've been there the waitress never thanked me for my payment which included a 30% tip.

Finally, the most aggravating of all is that tax is added to the price of everything-$6. 54 for drinks, $21. 80 for VIP admission, etc. All the other clubs in town have all-inclusive pricing. Unless the dancers are going to start wearing pockets in their outfits, then stop the penny, nickel, dime shit.

TDs East is the coldest, most inhospitable club in town. No wonder it's usually vacant when I go there.

**Chica Luv** · 11-26-10 02:55

sl.

thanks for the pm and the additional info. on some of your favorite dancers. i stopped by the cs last week and met with one of you previously reviewed recommendations.

"magica". and yes she was all you suggested that she might be.

thanks for the info, and i hope to see more from your list.

cl.

Originally Posted by stripper luv [View Original Post]

candy store is firing all dancers who aren't at least 21. it's a shame. some of the best action lately has been with a 20-year old i've been balling. i suppose it was inevitable thanks to the **** drinking problems at the club.

**IcemanCummeth** · 11-23-10 13:56

Had five floor dances with this writhing nymph yesterday. She is by far the cutest dancer I have seen in a while. Has anyone gone VIP with this vixen?