Medical Advice for Mongers

[Max #01]

Fellow mongers- been texting with this local MILF and she sends me a pic of her privates showing these bumps. Any idea what that could be? Should I run for the hills? Thank you!

They look like warts; genital warts? I don't know, other than I had some many years ago. The doc froze them with LN2 (liquid nitrogen to you non-chemists) and eventually they went away and didn't come back. I'd sure think twice about a provider sending me pictures like that.

[DriftingFan101]

With everything happening in the world and Baltimore I pretty much stopped seeing providers, risk is too high in my book for a mid 30's guy, everything is more expensive, and I have less time to enjoy the hobby.

Rather not risk infection of anything and just stay safe / healthy, may return to the hobby when things get back to a safe normal later.

[Norm Gerd]

The sad truth about getting something like that from BBBJ is that you didn't get it from her. You got it from some other dudes cum germs that were lingering in her mouth. Probably from 10 minutes before you got there. It happened to me. Got it at an AMP. I spent so much time thinking about "how can it transmit from mouth to penis" . . . . then it all kind of hit me. I remember the visit it happened because I saw a monger leave before me and I could hear the provider gargling mouthwash. I figured I'd get one of the other providers, but I guess she was going for 'employee of the week' that afternoon. This is a dirty disgusting game we all play. Not gonna stop, but yeesh.

That is incorrect to some degree. The OP's doctor is correct, some STDs, including gonorrhea, can actually live in the throat. Google "can gonorrhea live in the throat". Now, coudl he have gotten it because the monger before had it? Sure. But it couls also be living in her throat.

Norm!

[Michael Taylor]

A fellow monger (whom I shall not name) has recently informed me that one of the reasons that he stopped was due to contracting Gonorrhea from a BBBJ. Incidentally, he gave it to his wife, so sad. I did not believe him at first, but my doctor confirmed it. My doctor also confirmed that using mouthwash or hand sanitizer after a BBBJ has no effect at all. The bacteria cultivates in the back of the SWs throat, and nothing kills it but antibiotics. There is a new strain of Gonorrhea that's circling around that is antibiotics-resistant. Think about it for a while.

Be safe gentlemen!

The sad truth about getting something like that from BBBJ is that you didn't get it from her. You got it from some other dudes cum germs that were lingering in her mouth. Probably from 10 minutes before you got there. It happened to me. Got it at an AMP. I spent so much time thinking about "how can it transmit from mouth to penis" . . . . then it all kind of hit me. I remember the visit it happened because I saw a monger leave before me and I could hear the provider gargling mouthwash. I figured I'd get one of the other providers, but I guess she was going for 'employee of the week' that afternoon. This is a dirty disgusting game we all play. Not gonna stop, but yeesh.

[EasternProwler]

Fellow mongers- been texting with this local MILF and she sends me a pic of her privates showing these bumps. Any idea what that could be? Should I run for the hills? Thank you!

[Mknowledge21]

A fellow monger (whom I shall not name) has recently informed me that one of the reasons that he stopped was due to contracting Gonorrhea from a BBBJ. Incidentally, he gave it to his wife, so sad. I did not believe him at first, but my doctor confirmed it. My doctor also confirmed that using mouthwash or hand sanitizer after a BBBJ has no effect at all. The bacteria cultivates in the back of the SWs throat, and nothing kills it but antibiotics. There is a new strain of Gonorrhea that's circling around that is antibiotics-resistant. Think about it for a while.

Be safe gentlemen!

That is very true I was shocked when the same thing happen to me BJ with condom sucks but to be safe it a must.

[MrNiubility]

Is there any anonymous std testing place in Howard Co. ? I heard the health dept in Columbia do std tests free, is it stil the case? Thanks.

[BigCoolie]

A fellow monger (whom I shall not name) has recently informed me that one of the reasons that he stopped was due to contracting Gonorrhea from a BBBJ. Incidentally, he gave it to his wife, so sad. I did not believe him at first, but my doctor confirmed it. My doctor also confirmed that using mouthwash or hand sanitizer after a BBBJ has no effect at all. The bacteria cultivates in the back of the SWs throat, and nothing kills it but antibiotics. There is a new strain of Gonorrhea that's circling around that is antibiotics-resistant. Think about it for a while.

Be safe gentlemen!

[AceKing88]

I had my HIV test recently. It was awkward as usual (my knees shaking as I wait for the results). I spoke with the doctor (an Indian female) as she asked me if I was sexually active.

Doc: are you sexually active?
Me: yes.
Doc: do you have sex with men, women, or both?
Me: women only.
Doc: do you use a condom every time?
Me: yes every time without exception.
Doc: how many partners do you have?
Me: too many I am sure.
Doc: how many this month?
Me: 4-5.
Doc: how many last year, in your lifetime?
Me: I have no idea.
Doc: more than 100.
Me: yes more than 100.

I am not sure what she was going through her mind at this time, but she was very understanding.

She informed me of risks, such as using condoms properly, and the risk level of various sexual acks (such as anal). I informed her that anal is not my thing, I am almost strictly a vaginal kind of guy.

My test came back negative.

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ADVICE

Mongers have special medical needs that a normal doctor might not be ready for

If you have health concerns or questions I highly recommend that you visit Chase Brexton Health Services at http://www.chasebrexton.org.

They have the most open minded doctors in the area.

The also have a 20 minute HIV test which swipes your gums and tests the membrane.

It is called "OraQuick Advance".

My old doctor got nervous when the topic of sex came up, I would ask for blood work and he would not check "HIV test" on the blood form, I would need to specifically ask him to do so.
I had to ask him for an HIV test every time I saw him, he would respond with statements like "why would you need another test, didn't you get one last year?".

At my stage of life I do not have time for any more games, this is our life we are talking about here. All Maryland mongers should consider either including or replacing their current doctor with a Chase Brexton doctor ASAP!

That is one of there main specialty at that clinic HIV and infectious diseases. That's why they are so curious about it there. Most normal physicians don't but you up over the head about taking those test everytime you visit them. It so much money in the research off that disease places like chase Brexton will have you take that test everyday if they could. Best advice strap up at all times for All monger Activities. I see pictures on the forum with chics having open wounds on there mouth also around the gentian area I'm talking literally blood on there body parts in guys are barebacking them and taking bbj from chics with sores on in around there mouth. As always be safe somehow guys take that is being strictly for l. E. I'm speaking on these chics Dudes be Extra Safe with them.

[Baltoman]

Below is an article I saw in AlterNet dot com. Hep C treatment costs $84,000 in the USA. The article states that some Indian pharmacies are now selling the same treatment for only $500.00. You may want to pass the word out on the street that this is possible.

Copy and paste the article onto some paper and give it to any girls that have yellowish skin. I hope it helps some people.

Baltoman.

"How I Got the $84,000 Hepatitis C Drug For $1500 By Buying It From India. How I got around one of the most obscene examples of Big Pharma overreach. ".

By Phillip Smith / AlterNet May 5, 2016.

Hepcinat LP.

When I went in for my annual physical in 2011, I knew something was up when the physician's assistant who usually dealt with me deferred to the actual doctor. It was up to him to take on more serious issues, and as he soon explained, I had one. My blood work had come back showing I was infected with the hepatitis C virus. Hep C is a serious, life-threatening illness that attacks the liver and can result in fatty liver, cirrhotic liver and liver cancer. One out of five people carrying the hep C virus will die of liver disease within 20 years. And a lot of people have itat least 3 million, and perhaps as many as 7 million, in the United States alone.

When I was diagnosed five years ago, there was no effective cure. The interferon-based treatments weren't successful half the time, and the side effects were so debilitating few patients could endure the months-long punishing protocol. But hope was on the horizon. Pharmaceutical companies were working frantically to create new hep C drugs that were more effective, with fewer nasty side effects. Gilead Science was first out the gate, bringing the new hep C drugs Harvoni and Sovaldi to market in 2014 and 2015, respectively. And they worked great: More than 90 percent of patients taking the new drugs saw the hep C virus wiped out in three months, and without the side effects that made interferon treatments so intolerable.

But there was one big problem: Gilead wants $1,000 a pill for the 12-week treatment, or $84,000 for Harvoni and only slightly less for Sovaldi. In the United States, there is nothing stopping pharmaceutical companies from charging whatever they think the market will bear. Martin Skreli, the infamous "Pharma Bro," may be the poster child for pharmaceutical price-gouging, but the executives at Gilead certainly deserve at least a (dis) honorable mention. Gilead has grown fat off of hep C drug profits, generating billions in sales each quarter and sitting on a $26 billion pile of cash at the end of last year, with hepatitis C sufferers, insurance companies and state Medicaid plains generating the wealth of Croesus for the company.

For me, as for millions of others, buying the pills was financially out of the question. My Affordable Care Act insurance plan would, for a time, cover the treatmentbut only if my liver were already diseased. In other words, I had to let the disease progress to the point that it actually threatened my life before the insurance company would pay to treat the disease. (Just last month, under pressure from the state government, seven New York state insurance companies agreed to cover the drugs for all hepatitis C patients, not just those with advanced liver disease.).

There was another problem: Because I had a low-premium, high-deductible health insurance plan, even if my insurance company paid for the drugs, I still faced $6,000 in out-of-pocket costs. But that was something of a moot point, since my insurance company required I wait for my liver to be damaged before it would pay a cent. So there I was, infected with a potentially life-threatening virus, but unable to afford the drugs that could cure it. It was not a happy place to be, and I was determined to find a solution. It came from India.

Last year, Gilead entered into an agreement with India that would allow Indian pharmaceutical manufacturers to produce generic versions of Harvoni and Sovaldi and sell them in 101 developing countries at "a significantly reduced flat price. " The medicines are urgently needed in those countries, where an estimated 103 million people have the hep C virus.

I did some internet sleuthing, found that Harvoni from Indian pharmaceutical house Natco is sold as Hepcinat LP, and quickly discovered dozens of online vendors ready, willing and eager to sell it to me. I made my inquiries in the heady days of rollout last fall and got price quotes ranging from $500 to $2,500. I eventually decided to go with a company called Care Exim, which offered the pills for $1,500. (The cost is significantly lower now. In searches I made while writing this, some quotes were around $500 for the complete course of treatment. Care Exim now says it can provide Hepcinat for $1,050 for the full course of treatment.).

It felt kind of sketchy, however. I was dealing with unknown online drug purveyors based on the other side of the planet. They didn't take credit cardspayment took the form of a bank transferand didn't require a prescription. They were happy to ship to the United States even though doing so violated USA Customs regulations and they were quick with assurances that it would get through with "no problem. " Was it a scam? Was I buying counterfeit drugs? Those were the questions I weighed, balanced against the possibility of being cured at a cost I could (barely) afford.

I paid my money and I took my chances. The package arrived in nine days, untouched by customs. There were indeed three bottles of pills labeled as Hepcinat LP manufactured by Natco, with seals and even a folded paper insert with all the drug information on it. I took the pills for 83 days (saving one for possible testing just in case), waited a couple of weeks, then went to my doctor and had my blood drawn. The following week, he reported that my hepatitis C viral load was now zero. I was cured.

I'm quite pleased about that, but the whole experience leaves me feeling rather bilious about the USA Health-care system in general and the role of privately owned pharmaceutical companies in particular. I had health insurance, yet it proved useless. Hell, I could have flown to India and stayed for three months and taken the pills for less than what it would have cost me to get Harvoni through my insurance company, if it would cover it at all, if I waited for my liver to be damaged first.

And then there's Gilead. It didn't even develop Harvoni itself; it made a business decision to pay $11 billion to buy the company that did so it could be first to market and reap the rewards, $26 billion worth. There is something obscene about that. A billion-dollar profit would have been a very respectable return on investment, but Gilead is getting much, much more than that, and all the rest of us are paying for it, one way or another, whether through higher insurance premiums, higher Medicaid costs, or like me, out of their own pockets, just so Gilead's stockholders can see their dividends double. If you buy Hepcinat from India, Gilead still makes a profit as part of its licensing arrangement, but it doesn't make the unholy profits the USA Government allows it to get away with. And you save thousands of dollars, and you get cured of hepatitis C.

[DrBang]

I believe that the most cruicial medical advice I can give for us mongers is to use protection as much as possible. Now I am not bashing people who choose to bareback SW because I believe in choice but I personally don't do it, the reason being that as much as I would like to believe that every SW is clean, the fact is that the statitics are getting worser and worser everyday, especially in Baltimore. So I would say like others before me have said, using protection is one of the best medical advice for mongers.

[Hugh Jardon]

HIV test takes a min of 3 months, up to 6 months mark to show...

Be careful guys.

With the newer generation of HIV kits, detection is within 3-4 weeks of infection.

[Barraquda22]

HIV test takes a min of 3 months, up to 6 months mark to show...

Be careful guys.

Yeah, considering the high numbers of new cases you'd think they would find a way to generate faster results on it. With most of the guys on here, 3-6 could be dozens or hundreds of providers. ANd don't tell me that people arent going bare because I know differnet (hell even I do occasionally with my regular but that's stopping now due to another non medical reason). The home kits are a great option though. I live about 45 minutes from the nearest clinic and I refuse to pay what my ins copay is for the blood work... So I've been using the kits since before they were cheap. Too easy to not do it. Especially for yall with women in your everyday lives.

BQ22.

[SexyBoy124]

HIV test takes a min of 3 months, up to 6 months mark to show...

Be careful guys.

[Member #5124]

I'd be curious to hear if anyone has definitively contracted any incurable diseases from providers around here. That's always been a concern for me.

Be very careful answering this question if you choose to.

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