"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

**Zcochran00** · 08-07-17 20:18

Originally Posted by FreeF [View Original Post]

I am usually upfront about wanting pay for play w / my sb prospects and had one who agreed to come over and fuck for set dollar amount. Then on the night of planned fuck date she balked saying she is not a ***** and is not ok w / just coming to see me like a call girl. What do I do with this type, she wants to date and get to know me, and agrees sex is a part of the sd / sb thing. Problem for me is I can't pay for dinner date and then give her 200 on top of that and get no pussy, so I can't figure how to go with her.

You may want to read some of the posts linked in the FAQ thread I put together a couple years ago: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...-Index-and-FAQ .

In general, though, I'd either drop her completely, emphasize that no physical time together means no sugar, or just tell her to come back if she ever changes her mind.

**FreeF** · 08-07-17 18:20

Originally Posted by FreeF [View Original Post]

I am usually upfront about wanting pay for play w / my sb prospects and had one who agreed to come over and fuck for set dollar amount. Then on the night of planned fuck date she balked saying she is not a ***** and is not ok w / just coming to see me like a call girl. What do I do with this type, she wants to date and get to know me, and agrees sex is a part of the sd / sb thing. Problem for me is I can't pay for dinner date and then give her 200 on top of that and get no pussy, so I can't figure how to go with her.

What I mean is I can't pay her to go to dinner for 200 she wants, then pay 200-250 more she wants to play.

**FreeF** · 08-07-17 12:14

I am usually upfront about wanting pay for play w / my sb prospects and had one who agreed to come over and fuck for set dollar amount. Then on the night of planned fuck date she balked saying she is not a ***** and is not ok w / just coming to see me like a call girl. What do I do with this type, she wants to date and get to know me, and agrees sex is a part of the sd / sb thing. Problem for me is I can't pay for dinner date and then give her 200 on top of that and get no pussy, so I can't figure how to go with her.

**PartyTimeGuy** · 08-07-17 11:34

Originally Posted by IluvSmellyFish [View Original Post]

Been a while since I checked this thread. Good to see old names still hard at work.

If I ever meet the guy that created this website, ima buy him a beer. First time in my life that I've got six ladies in my rotation. I'm regularly doing triples with one hotel room. An afternoon lunch date with check in, a dinner date with another, and then the next morning. Breakfast in bed with a new flavor.

Yes, I am using vitamin v. Wouldn't be able to keep up otherwise.

Life is good gents. Let's keep living the dream.

Good for you! I used to keep that kind of pussy pounding schedule, but I have relaxed on that in recent years. I am fucking less and enjoying it more. But, like you, I have 6 in the rotation. Variety is the spice of life.

**NeedyUnchin** · 08-07-17 08:42

I'd appreciate some advice.

I am visiting Vegas and messaged some SBs asking if they would see an out of towner / love to grab a drink / blah blah. Also mentioned I visit throughout yr for work, so maybe occasional meetups but not regular SD.

Well one said sure! $500/ hr for her time for drinks and convo. Pass.

But I've had several agree to meet up for drinks. No mention of $ yet. Asking when / where and seem a little more grounded.

Would you bring $$$ up now before meeting? My concern is I don't really want to waste time on a girl with ridiculous expectations.

I guess I'm asking how you screen for matching expectations ahead of time or is this unrealistic?

**JackCat58** · 08-05-17 23:28

Originally Posted by JustLonely [View Original Post]

Over the last few months I have noticed a lot of my messages are never read or profile viewed. I have not tried the mobile app but it might show enough info for a SB to ignore someone. My best luck for quick responses is from ones who come online between 6-8 am.

Keep in mind too that you can place filters on what you allow in your inbox. I am sure many of the sugar babies probably use them to keep the messages they get controllable and who they want to get them from, like age for example. I have had messages never read but see they are online so I assume possibly they are never hitting their inbox. I am in my 50's and many babies may not want to go more than 20 years their senior and place the age restriction. Just a thought on what some of it could be too.

**JustLonely** · 08-05-17 07:47

Originally Posted by MagicRat [View Original Post]

A question for the group. Recently I was trying to work something out as I was traveling. I was short on time so I concentrated on babies that were showing as "online". Not only did I get hardly any responses, almost none of the messages were even read nor had the babies viewed my profile. Has anyone else run into this?

Over the last few months I have noticed a lot of my messages are never read or profile viewed. I have not tried the mobile app but it might show enough info for a SB to ignore someone. My best luck for quick responses is from ones who come online between 6-8 am.

**IluvSmellyFish** · 08-05-17 07:36

Been a while since I checked this thread. Good to see old names still hard at work.

If I ever meet the guy that created this website, ima buy him a beer. First time in my life that I've got six ladies in my rotation. I'm regularly doing triples with one hotel room. An afternoon lunch date with check in, a dinner date with another, and then the next morning. Breakfast in bed with a new flavor.

Yes, I am using vitamin v. Wouldn't be able to keep up otherwise.

Life is good gents. Let's keep living the dream.

**Vasail** · 08-04-17 22:39

Originally Posted by Ternarius [View Original Post]

Does anyone know if Walmart Moneygram is anonymous for the sender?

A couple years ago I sent a SB one using a fake name and phone number but the last time they wanted a working phone #.

Not sure how they do it now.

**LongLasting** · 08-04-17 22:29

Fellow Daddies, especially those of you living in Michigan, Ohio, or Indiana:

I have never wrote a bad thing about any sugar babies on this site, but I feel compelled to make you aware of a scammer baby in Michigan on the Seeking Arrangement site.

Her screen name is GenuineGal and her profile link is below.

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/m...c-0e222820bc3a

I do not consider myself a gullible person but she is extremely convincing in making you believe she is who she really says she is. She is very sweet, articulate, and detailed in her texts. She initiated the messaging with me.

She will give you a sad story that one of her two dogs suddenly is really sick and needs emergency treatment at the vet. She will tell you that she lives alone and her dogs mean everything to her and of course she doesn't have the money right now but if you send the money, she will pay you back when she gets her next paycheck in the middle of the month. She even sent me photos of her drivers license and Social Security card to "prove" she is real. I did not ask for those or even bring them up. I suspect they may be stolen I'd. She claims to live in the city of Woodhaven, just south of Detroit and that's what her drivers license says. She also will tell you that her grandmother or her brother will send you the money. SURPRISE. They never do. In fact, the day her brother is suppose to wire the money. Surprise, he suddenly takes ill with a stroke.

I spoke with her on the phone a few times and she sounded very sweet and very grateful for your help. You feel as if you are really helping her and doing a good deed.

She also asked me for money for a new apartment because she was getting kicked out of her home. She will agree to meet you but then when the meeting time comes, she will suddenly have a legit sounding excuse why she can't.

She will also text you in the middle of the night with a story of some break in attempt in her house by an intruder who tried to kick the door own. She will send you pics of her broken door. If you Tineye them you will find that those pics are just fakes that she found by googling "kicked in door". I totally believed everything she said until she came up with the intruder story. My gut told me it was fishy and my Tineye search of her photos confirmed the photos she sent were fake and not ones she took.

The lesson here is DO NOT EVER SEND MONEY TO ANYONE SITE UNSEEN. This baby will exploit your White Knight feelings. Ignore my warning at your own risk. Don't believe me, go on SA and chat with her yourself. She is a current "member" of the site.

**JZLizard** · 08-04-17 20:49

Originally Posted by NeedyUnchin [View Original Post]

There are so many that paint this picture of Prince Charming riding in on a horse and dazzling them with exciting adventures. Is this for real or bullshit?

This is often the case with nice looking women in general, not just SBs. Not that they are all like this, but its very common -- hot looking women know they are hot, and after some period of time tend to develop some sense of entitlement that is cultivated due to the amount of attention they receive on a regular basis.

I have some opinions on why GPS-princess syndrome is so common among SBs. Every SB I've ever met (and I do mean every one of them) has turned out to have daddy issues one way or another. I've talked about the variations of daddy-issue that result in a girl seeking out age-inappropriate partners, but for the most part I believe they can be broken down into two types of daddy issues: Absent-Daddy Syndrome (for whatever reason their dad wasn't present enough in their life) or Tough-Act-To-Follow-Daddy (their dad spoiled them and showered them with attention). I've never met an SB with a "normal" dad -- it could be my perspective is limited because I avoid the UTR / escort types, and seek the ones who have genuine attraction to older men? My own experience is the ones who want to be daddys little princess are the daughters of tough-act-to-follow-syndrome. Their dads probably thought they were doing their angels a favor by raising the bar high, but what often happens is they can't find a replacement at their age level so they go searching for someone more like their dad, or older than him. Dad succeeded in protecting their little angel from ill-intentioned young men, but then unsatisfied with her options, angel runs into the arms of perverted old ones (like me) that make them feel special but cannot offer them a real relationship. The ones with Absent-Daddy Syndrome, I find, do not have the "fantasy" mindset. They don't want a slouch, but they don't expect the moon either.

Getting into an SB's head and understanding what she's about is literally the first thing I do, in very early contact before meeting them. What I learn from that shapes my interaction with them from that point forward.

Either way, they are fulfilling some "real" need with something that is not real, and that sometimes causes unrealistic expectations, especially if they are new to sugar dating. I wouldn't let it discourage you, as long as they like you and enjoy spending time with you, you have to be trying hard not to get laid. I've met some that posted some pretty rediculous expectations, only to find that after a bit of wining and dining, they are happy to get a vigorous fucking and then a load in the mouth. Go figure. Women are full of contradictions, and that's especially true of college aged girls.

**Ternarius** · 08-04-17 15:00

Does anyone know if Walmart Moneygram is anonymous for the sender?

**S2568** · 08-03-17 18:26

To Starkey 2008: You need to clean up your mail box can't send any privates to you!

S2568.

**Dsprdo** · 08-03-17 13:37

Originally Posted by MagicRat [View Original Post]

A question for the group. Recently I was trying to work something out as I was traveling. I was short on time so I concentrated on babies that were showing as "online". Not only did I get hardly any responses, almost none of the messages were even read nor had the babies viewed my profile. Has anyone else run into this?

I think the response rate is about the same either way. A girl who signs in on a mobile device (which is probably most of them these days) will show as online even of she doesn't look at it for hours.

**Magic Rat** · 08-03-17 11:43

A question for the group. Recently I was trying to work something out as I was traveling. I was short on time so I concentrated on babies that were showing as "online". Not only did I get hardly any responses, almost none of the messages were even read nor had the babies viewed my profile. Has anyone else run into this?