"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JustLonely]

I have had some luck on WYP, including an incredible current sb, but overall when you compare the two I feel like I am still scouting in the minors. I talked to a young lady, who seemed like a veteran at 19, LOL, and she told me the interface and responses were much better on SA than WYP, so she rarely even checks her WYP account.

WYP sucks most of the time. I finally said the hell with it. Just because a girl accepts your offer, you still need game to get her to actually go out with you. A lot never even respond past first message. Wasted money there for maybe 3 FC visits in the four years of using it. Two of the three showed up on SA soon after I had seen them thru WYP.

[Missingcr1]

I use a OneVanilla Visa card bought at CVS to pay for my WYP membership without a problem. However, when I try to use one for SA or Secret Benefits it gets rejected (even after registering the zip code). I called OneVanilla last week when this happened and they said it was rejected because it was an international charge. Would love to figure out how to pay for SA without using a personal cc.

I have had some luck on WYP, including an incredible current sb, but overall when you compare the two I feel like I am still scouting in the minors. I talked to a young lady, who seemed like a veteran at 19, LOL, and she told me the interface and responses were much better on SA than WYP, so she rarely even checks her WYP account.

I use OneVanilla gift cards, sometime Visa sometime MasterCard, bought at either CVS or Walmart. I just go on OneVanilla's website and register a zip code. Never had a problem.

[DogBert77]

==========================================
However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


=============================================
GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

I use OneVanilla gift cards, sometime Visa sometime MasterCard, bought at either CVS or Walmart. I just go on OneVanilla's website and register a zip code. Never had a problem.

[InTight]

Hello,

Looked at some posts here that mentioned that one can pay SA membership using Visa / MC / Amex gift cards.

SA also has in their faq:

Can I use a prepaid credit, debit, or gift card to pay for a premium membership?
Yes, please be sure that:
Your prepaid card is fully activated by following the instructions enclosed with the card (if applicable).
You use the same zip code as you registered with your card during the checkout process.
You use a valid name and do not use a name such as "Gift Card".
You use a valid address.
You use a valid phone number.

If you still cannot process your prepaid card, please contact us by using the "report an issue" button at the bottom of this page, with the full card info and zip code and we'll be glad to run the card through our alternate provider.


==========================================
However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


=============================================
GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

Others here swear that a Plain Vanilla Visa gift card will work It didn't for me so I used Bitcoin and it worked just fine everything anonymous.

[RegularJoe1985]

Hello,

Looked at some posts here that mentioned that one can pay SA membership using Visa / MC / Amex gift cards.

SA also has in their faq:

Can I use a prepaid credit, debit, or gift card to pay for a premium membership?
Yes, please be sure that:
Your prepaid card is fully activated by following the instructions enclosed with the card (if applicable).
You use the same zip code as you registered with your card during the checkout process.
You use a valid name and do not use a name such as "Gift Card".
You use a valid address.
You use a valid phone number.

If you still cannot process your prepaid card, please contact us by using the "report an issue" button at the bottom of this page, with the full card info and zip code and we'll be glad to run the card through our alternate provider.


==========================================
However, the payment page has the following:

For your protection, your credit card statement will read "PF*W8TECH.COM, 2BUYSAFE.COM/ W8 TECH, SA*W8 TECH, W8TECH.COM*SA or W8TECH.COM SA".
Note: Credit card or prepaid card used must permit international transactions.
Purchase may be made via our sales agent 2 BuySafe, 2 BuySecure.


=============================================
GC bought in the store typically do NOT allow international transactions.

How have people been paying for membership?

Thanks.

[UVAHooCru99]

If you read the article SA just gave them stats on the top 20 schools with the most coed SBs registered. This is easy for them to provide because any SB that registers with an at. Edu email gets premium perks.

I don't have any firsthand experience because I only pursue out of town SB's, but reading this thread I propose VCU is top 20 in SB that go to FC!

Keep in mind it's one of the largest college in Virginia (over 24,000 students, & plenty of coeds (61%.

IMHO my ex LTSB went to the school with the hottest coeds on the left coast, The University of Carolina Wilmington. I went on campus one day to put a present in her car when she was in class. I didn't see anything but gorgeous coeds! OMG, she was sooo
stunning!

I told her later, "what do you guys do, round up all the ugly girls & bus them to Smith & Radcliffe? (Exclusive Woman's colleges in Mass for carpet munchers!)

%100 spot on my man! Div 2/3 schools are where it's at. Just as hot of girls but even more fun ready because most come from some bfe town and middle of nowhere (grade 13 basically) and those colleges are mostly girls with little competition from guys in area. JMU / VCU prime examples. Those girls are also more inclined to b reasonable w numbers as they haven't experienced gps yet from some sucka that just throws the bank at them not thinking w right head. I get WVU being on there probably a lot Pittsburgh area daddy's come down there and oil industry guys and Morgantown looking for full set teeth.

[DoggieFan]

New York Post put up SA's top 20. No Virginia school this year.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/the-co...es-in-america/

If you read the article SA just gave them stats on the top 20 schools with the most coed SBs registered. This is easy for them to provide because any SB that registers with an at. Edu email gets premium perks.

I don't have any firsthand experience because I only pursue out of town SB's, but reading this thread I propose VCU is top 20 in SB that go to FC!

Keep in mind it's one of the largest college in Virginia (over 24,000 students, & plenty of coeds (61%.

IMHO my ex LTSB went to the school with the hottest coeds on the left coast, The University of Carolina Wilmington. I went on campus one day to put a present in her car when she was in class. I didn't see anything but gorgeous coeds! OMG, she was sooo
stunning!

I told her later, "what do you guys do, round up all the ugly girls & bus them to Smith & Radcliffe? (Exclusive Woman's colleges in Mass for carpet munchers!)

[PartyTimeGuy]

She was super hot but really not that great a lay, at least first time, but would've repeated to see if it improved without the money stunt at the end. I honestly don't know if it was a strategy or inexperience.

In my experience a girl does what she does independent of the money. A girl's sexual performance quotient seems to be stamped in her DNA. She is either terrific or not, but throwing extra money at her doesn't tend to improve her performance. In fact, more often than not it makes her feel entitled (as if post-millenials need to feel more entitled!), lazier and less fun.

[JustLonely]

The trend for me recently. Just two examples below. Anybody falling for it?? Or having success?? LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8affa...f-7d4a5aceb028

" I'm in miami right now for spring break and I ran out of money! ".

https://www.seeking.com/member/4696c...3-79187824a37e

"I went to Florida and have missed my flight home. I don't have enough money to pay for another ticket home so I'm stuck here until I can figure something out. ".

The top one from Blacksburg is in Miami with other VT SB babes. Platonic despite what profile might hint at.

[JustLonely]

New York Post put up SA's top 20. No Virginia school this year.

https://nypost.com/2019/03/15/the-co...es-in-america/

[EasyeOne]

The trend for me recently. Just two examples below. Anybody falling for it?? Or having success?? LOL.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8affa...f-7d4a5aceb028

" I'm in miami right now for spring break and I ran out of money! ".

https://www.seeking.com/member/4696c...3-79187824a37e

"I went to Florida and have missed my flight home. I don't have enough money to pay for another ticket home so I'm stuck here until I can figure something out. ".

[BookerTNelson]

Yep, she's good to go! Definitely a keeper.

PM for you.

[Missingcr1]

I am not surprised if the amount is not set in advance that the girls are disappointed with what they get. I have been doing this for many years, with the pretty normal progression from massage parlors, to escorts, to CL, to SD sites, and have never seen such unreal expectations. There were always a few that priced themselves out of a reasonable market (but I often had 9. 5's that with a little sweet talking went down to a reasonable level "just because I seemed like a nice guy"). But now I am talking to an average looking girl just because she is close, all my normal sb's are busy and I think she will be a relatively inexpensive fill in. After a lot of back and forth it ends up this "7" is expecting more than I would give a "9. 5", and has a bunch of rules. Just crazy. Don't think articles like the one posted below, where SA says that student sb's make 3000 a month help. Am sure they use that in their marketing to these young ladies to sign up. I also have many girls tell me that their gf's make that much, so they are not going to go any lower. I have several thoughts, either their gf's are much hotter, their gf's are alll exaggerating what they are getting to make themselves feel better, or they are lying about a gf making that much. Anyway, I try to set expectations in advance now. Find it works better to mention that I had an awesome sb relationship in the past and I helped her with---. Rather than just throwing a number out there.

On a side note, I typically spend my time on the Baltimore forum, as most of the girls I see are from that area, there seems to be a much more interesting sharing of ideas and opinions on this forum.

https://www.11alive.com/article/news...s8fppiAdiNA0hk

I have had this three times now. Each time, there was no discussion of the amount before hand, but there was a general expectation of sugar. I gave them all three the same amount. Despite the objections from these three, I have given the same donation many times to other girls who were just as hot and had no problem with the amount. Here are the three:

1. Most recent experience a couple days ago, she left room and came back and knocked on door, wanting 2 x.

2. A couple weeks ago, different SB, another very hot girl, 21 yo. After the deed, slipped an envelope into her purse. She goes into bathroom and looks into it before leaving room. Comes out and tells me "we agreed to 1. 66 x" and she "never does it" for less. Another girl too professional for my taste (although not all that professional since she didn't negotiate in advance). I told her we had not agreed on anything and refused to give her any more. She didn't actually try to negotiate very hard and seemed not that bothered by the amount. I guess she just thought it was worth a try. I would have banged her once or twice more and I think she would have been up for it at the original donation level, but she moved to another city the next week. Not just blowing me off, I saw it on her profile and she mentioned when I met her she was thinking about moving. These young girls have pretty unstable lives.

3. A few months ago, the best of the the three overall, spectacular body with huge tits, tiny waist and nice ass. I think she was 23 or 24, don't really remember. She was living with a boyfriend who didn't know about her activities on the side. Excellent skills and a real desire to please. Face was nice, but not as spectacular. I am often attracted to butterfaces, since I am much more concerned about their bodies than their faces. This one had a nice face, but not in the same league as her super hot body. When we were done, I did my usual thing, slipped an envelope with cash in her purse. She did not look at it before leaving. Got a text from her a couple hours later bitching about the amount. We texted back and forth a few times and she said she would only repeat for 2 x the donation. I let her go. I think this one was just really uncomfortable talking about money and didn't like to admit to herself what she was doing.

I suppose all of these incidents are a result of me usually not talking money before going to FC. I am still amazed that girls will do it on that basis. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy they do. It gives me, the consumer, all the power. It just seems weird that they would try to negotiate after I have fucked them. Surely they are aware that they are plenty of other girls for us to to choose from for the next time.

[PeteMc]

This seems like an active SD group, so thought I'd ask here.

Are some of the girls unable to read or respond a paid member's messages?

I sometimes see girls who have logged on, but not yet read a message I sent. I figured they just have a lot of messages to wade through already. But then I got a message asking me to favorite them so they can message me, and it made me wonder if the free version of the SB accounts limit their ability to open messages? Unless they pay or verify with picture I'd maybe?

I'd like to know how all this works from the female account standpoint.

[DogBert77]

Only had it happen once, and was also after the deed was done and we were still in the room, also hadn't discussed money ....

I have had this three times now. Each time, there was no discussion of the amount before hand, but there was a general expectation of sugar. I gave them all three the same amount. Despite the objections from these three, I have given the same donation many times to other girls who were just as hot and had no problem with the amount. Here are the three:

1. Most recent experience a couple days ago, she left room and came back and knocked on door, wanting 2 x.

2. A couple weeks ago, different SB, another very hot girl, 21 yo. After the deed, slipped an envelope into her purse. She goes into bathroom and looks into it before leaving room. Comes out and tells me "we agreed to 1. 66 x" and she "never does it" for less. Another girl too professional for my taste (although not all that professional since she didn't negotiate in advance). I told her we had not agreed on anything and refused to give her any more. She didn't actually try to negotiate very hard and seemed not that bothered by the amount. I guess she just thought it was worth a try. I would have banged her once or twice more and I think she would have been up for it at the original donation level, but she moved to another city the next week. Not just blowing me off, I saw it on her profile and she mentioned when I met her she was thinking about moving. These young girls have pretty unstable lives.

3. A few months ago, the best of the the three overall, spectacular body with huge tits, tiny waist and nice ass. I think she was 23 or 24, don't really remember. She was living with a boyfriend who didn't know about her activities on the side. Excellent skills and a real desire to please. Face was nice, but not as spectacular. I am often attracted to butterfaces, since I am much more concerned about their bodies than their faces. This one had a nice face, but not in the same league as her super hot body. When we were done, I did my usual thing, slipped an envelope with cash in her purse. She did not look at it before leaving. Got a text from her a couple hours later bitching about the amount. We texted back and forth a few times and she said she would only repeat for 2 x the donation. I let her go. I think this one was just really uncomfortable talking about money and didn't like to admit to herself what she was doing.

I suppose all of these incidents are a result of me usually not talking money before going to FC. I am still amazed that girls will do it on that basis. Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy they do. It gives me, the consumer, all the power. It just seems weird that they would try to negotiate after I have fucked them. Surely they are aware that they are plenty of other girls for us to to choose from for the next time.