Thread: "Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?
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04-11-19 22:40 #16407
Posts: 164Payment
Originally Posted by Truncated [View Original Post]
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04-11-19 20:21 #16406
Posts: 196Originally Posted by Playa12 [View Original Post]
Buy it and register it on the Vanilla website. Use a fake name, and use the real address of an apartment complex in your area. Just leave off the apartment number. The zip code is what the site's merchant account uses to authenticate your account.
You can use a burner phone #, or just make one up for the card registration. The phone # isn't used to authenticate the registration or purchase.
Once you register the card, go to SA and enter the same information you used to register the card. The card should be accepted for payment.
You'll then have $10 left on the card. Use it for gas next time you're at the pump. Remember the zip code you used to register the card.
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04-11-19 18:41 #16405
Posts: 648There is a lot of great advice in this thread. But this post is the best words of wisdom I have heard in awhile.
Originally Posted by InTight [View Original Post]
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04-11-19 16:06 #16404
Posts: 54Vanilla Gift Card
Originally Posted by InTight [View Original Post]
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04-11-19 14:52 #16403
Posts: 196Originally Posted by DrSummer [View Original Post]
Seeking will eventually get hacked or go broke and the assets (including data) sold to a third party. That means your personal information will eventually be posted somewhere.
Remember *************.com?
Always sign up on Seeking with a fake name and prepaid card and burner phone number.
Besides, look at the company Seeking uses to verify I'd for Diamond. It's run by some guy in Durham, NC who is a kids soccer coach. No fucking way I'm giving that guy my personal info.
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04-11-19 11:52 #16402
Posts: 59I'm back!
I've been in a traditional relationship for the past year. I've been back in the Sugar Bowl for about a month. Things have definitely changed. You can't block the pros you know like you used to be able to.
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04-11-19 07:07 #16401
Posts: 101Any info?
Anyone know this one from down in Roanoke area? Sally Val 4 u https://www.seeking.com/member/3c846...1-5ddd81e42607.
Messaged a bit but she goes quiet for long time in between. Posted in Roanoke forum also. Happy to share other info if I can.
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04-10-19 22:49 #16400
Posts: 164Too Nice
Originally Posted by Cruzier1 [View Original Post]
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04-10-19 17:04 #16399
Posts: 495I don't follow your logic
Originally Posted by Tidad [View Original Post]
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04-10-19 14:19 #16398
Posts: 2682Pierced nipples
Lots of these SBs have them. What do you think they can say about a girl, and how do you involve them in your play?
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04-10-19 11:05 #16397
Posts: 454Message to M&G
My weakest link is also moving from messaging to M&G. Once I meet a girl, my success rate is very high. One reason may be I have only one profile photo (no face), although I mention in my profile that I would be happy to share pics offline. I am somewhat impatient person, may be I am trying to get to the "business end" of the chat too early. I am mainly trying to weed out picture sellers, time wasters etc. I would typically bring up a possible meet up in person within first 5 to 10 messages. Few occasions, girls went silent after that. I spent few messages chit chat etc, but try to talk them into chat offline ASAP. I am beginning to figure out the personalities that need lengthy chat before moving into business end. The key is that they don't view you as a "creep", and trying to get into their pants quickly (although they sure know what our end goal is). Girls are very different from how we think, just have to understand in order to get into their pants.
Stay safe.
Dr. S.
Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
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04-10-19 10:34 #16396
Posts: 454SA Diamond Membership
Gents.
I have been a premium member of SA for more than a year, now I see they try to get me into "Diamond" membership status. $250 per month and you need to verify the personal and income information. Seems like a rip-off, and more of a trap collecting information. Anyway, wanted to check if anyone here tried it and what the experience was.
Stay safe.
Dr. S.
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04-10-19 09:58 #16395
Posts: 353Originally Posted by Cruzier1 [View Original Post]
I think when it comes to an arrangement, 99% of the girls on the site know what's up. Guys hope for or expect sex in exchange for money. Anything else, like dinner dates, cocktails out, friendship, companionship is icing on the cake. Very, very few of us would give a girl money for any of the latter if it didn't come with the former. Girls know that. That said, some of them will still try to see if they can get what they want (money) for not having to put out. This is either some kind of fetish power move (findom?) for them that involves taking advantage of clueless guys or the sort of thing may help them rationalize that they're not really a prostitute (women's minds are amazing machines capable of bending reality into a fucking pretzel, if you haven't noticed), or it feeds their ego I. E. "OMG, guys think I'm soooo prettyyyy they pay just to give me attention and for me to text them and send selfies!
*Sidebar: If any of you do this, please stop. It's like feeding wildlife: you're reinforcing behavior that just turns them into an incessant and vapid pain in the ass.
Anyway, to answer your questions about the money aspect of the deal: I used to think the way you do. That since this was an arrangement / financial transaction that it was necessary to have the $$ and sex details spelled out before commencing. I learned from the wise gentlemen here that nothing could be further from the truth.
Now, I don't bring up money at all. And about half the time she won't either, I've found. I also never bring up money on Seeking messages, email or text, always deferring / delaying that conversation to in person at the M&G, if I have to have it at all. Also, never talk money over SA messaging - they DO seem to read / scan our messages and will ban you for talk that seems to be about escorting / prostitution. I just ask her out on a date and make sure the logistics of the evening include a place to have sex, be it a hotel or my car or my place or her place (I'm single, so have no SO to worry about). It's my job as a man to lead the date to a naked conclusion, and at the end I slip a gift into her purse without mention of $. 90% of the time nothing is said, and they are more than happy to get together again.
If she does bring up money, I follow the golden rule of negotiation: The one who states a price first loses. I ask her what she thinks an amicable arrangement would be for her. Usually, she'll come in sky-high ($700 for a dinner date? Girl, you on crack.). At that point, if I'm interested still, I'll try to talk her down, emphasizing that I'm really looking for a long-term arrangement and that she'll make much more over time if she lowers her per-meet rate to something reasonable and sustainable (for me, that's 150-250, depending on a mental algorithm that takes into account her level of youth, beauty, weight, intelligence, reliability, agreeableness, common sense, perceived level of sanity, sense of humor, quality of conversation). Most of they time they agree.
On the question of an ideal arrangement, my answer to this never includes money. I usually say something along the lines of looking for a friend and FWB to have fun and do things with, blah, blah, I work a lot, don't really have time for a conventional relationship, blah, blah, want something casual and easy, not looking to get in the way of your life, blah blah, some nights out, some nights in, blah blah. Also, if they're looking for some sort of kept girlfriend / Pretty Woman / ongoing allowance kind of bullshit, I say that I'm open to that (I'm really not), but would prefer to give them a gift / allowance each time we get together until we get to know each other better.
Or something like that.
Hope that helps.
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04-10-19 04:13 #16394
Posts: 196Originally Posted by KevinCalormis [View Original Post]
I agree with Kevin that these girls don't like to work hard. But they most-certainly do have their shit together enough to compile lists.
These sorority girls are sharp when it comes to fleecing guys on Seeking. Their goal is to extract as much cash from us as possible without giving up the P.
How many of us have met a girl who claims to be new to the sugar bowl, but then throws phrases like PPM around once money is mentioned? They network and help each other with profile advice, $, etc.
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04-09-19 22:58 #16393
Posts: 163A journey begins with a single step.
I've posted a few questions in here but today marks my earnest entry into the bowl.
I'm coming up on the end of my second month of paid membership, and looking back through my accomplishments I see that I have none. I've gotten too many messages to even begin to count. I've gotten maybe 10 or so contacts (phone numbers and / or emails). And yet I've been on a single M&G that did not go anywhere. And I see that I am squarely to blame.
I've read that this is a numbers game so obviously what I need to do is work on my funnel and go on more M&Gs. More failed M&Gs means that a successful one is that much closer.
I've practiced the intro message and do well there. I've even practiced the couple follow up messages and am getting pretty decent at getting either a phone number or email. The "secret" is literally just make small talk. Just make small talk until they offer up the contact info. Nothing more, nothing less. No sex talk, no arrangement talk, no anything, really. Just talk about what you did last weekend. What you're going to do next weekend. What the weather is like. At some point, with some ladies it is sooner, and some ladies it is later, they will drop a number. Easy.
Where my funnel breaks down is converting these numbers into M&Gs / FCs. I do not understand how to transition from talking about weather to talking about dollars per meet / sexual preferences in texts or emails. Perhaps that's the weakness of my strategy. Perhaps by being too nice and ensuring access to contact info it weakens the funnel down the line because I am not per-qualifying appropriately.
I have gotten the full spectrum of messages, however. From endless penpal style talks of the weather to first message into single email with an attached crotch shot and full a la carte menu. Sometimes I feel it is less what I say and more whoever I am saying it to. Still, I am not really in search of obvious pros /UTRs. If I was I would just follow up with every "hey" message I get, which is tons.
The question that is hidden in here is what is the progression or "tempo", of you will, of messages on SA and the followup text / emails? Obviously this varies but anyone want to take a stab at some general guidelines? Also, how does one first broach the subject.
In closing I will say the worst question I've been faced with is "what's your ideal arrangement?" Do I really just say 1 time a week for $$ in a mid range hotel halfway between me and you, I'll bring the refreshments if you bring the entertainment and drop the mic? Advice here is appreciated.
One step at a time.
Cruzier.