"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Ernest Ll]

3. https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3...e-400f0a42e172.

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.

I hit her up over the weekend, and only after we switched to text and she started saying things and revealing just how stupid she is that I realized this was the former Sarah Grace, discussed her before. Checked her FB page and found one of her profile photos.

She was outing SDs on facebook and otherwise in the past, and generally unstable and vindictive.

Run far, run fast.

[YayaGogo]

Apologies for the delay on reporting the results of my previous post regarding finding two 18 YO virgins ready to give it up. Both girls closed their SA accounts soon after I contacted them:

Girl #1: Just one month into being 18 (checked I'd). Pretty face and body of practicing gymnastics for over 10 years. Motivation of doing this was wanted to 'get it out of the way' so she wouldn't feel so self conscious about it in the fall when going to college.

Results: After two weeks of texting buildup (conflicting schedules) where she asked questions and detailed her concerns we planned to meet again. Unfortunately things went south as she changed her earlier position and now wanted to be taken out a few times platonically before our FC date. I've been asked that before and have been happy to meet for lunch with other SB's to get to know each other but this one wanted the platonic dates to be paid 2 $ and expected the FC dates to be double 4 $. This was after we previously discussed allowance where I made clear that I never pay more than 2 $ for ongoing FC meets. I don't blame her for wanting what she wants but it's definitely not worth it to me so we parted ways.

Girl #2: Four months into being 18 (checked I'd). 5'11 slender model body with long hair I couldn't believe she was a virgin. Motivation was also that she was the only virgin she knew and wanted someone experienced to show her the right way to do things before she did it with guys her own age.

Results: Also two weeks of texting and buildup and had another enjoyable platonic (unpaid) lunch date before our FC date. She was very nervous and did all sorts of research on STD's and pregnancy rates as she is very science oriented (this was understandable but still a hassle to make her not worry so much) so I had to show her the results of a recent STD test (for kissing and oral) and she still insisted on condoms. It took a while and a lot of foreplay but she was into it and ready to go. There was no allowance involved and it was LOTS of fun showing her the different positions and possibilities. Exactly the type of experience she wanted! We'll see where this goes as she does live a bit far and her allowance expectations when we get to that is too high for me but we agreed we would consider the arrangement a separate issue from her deflowering.

Results: I do believe they were both virgins and I was very lucky to be in the right place at the right time to have the opportunity. Definitely you can find anything on SA if you're patient and have the right approach. Close rate was 50%. Good luck this summer everyone.

Yaya.

[BStreet]

She is nice, good time, , okay with most everything.

She's nice and a good time, easy to talk to. Does not make it all about the money, I would repeat but still sampling others.

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[EasyeOne]

This one is on my list and I've asked about her as well.

What is the negative stuff about her? The only one I know of was someone stating that she mentioned that her rates varied with desperation level of SD and another person stated that she said that as a joke.

Is there some other negative stuff about her?

She's nice and a good time, easy to talk to. Does not make it all about the money, I would repeat but still sampling others.

[RegularJoe1985]

2. https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe...5-f5923716dfd1.
Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?

This one is on my list and I've asked about her as well.

What is the negative stuff about her? The only one I know of was someone stating that she mentioned that her rates varied with desperation level of SD and another person stated that she said that as a joke.

Is there some other negative stuff about her?

[DogBert77]

The not-so-subtle difference we desire between them is that a "true" SB is somewhat of an amateur, preferably brand new to the scene, is choosy about the SD she decides upon and is about more than just the money. A really good actress can carry this off even if she does this full time and has a truckload of "SDs. " I don't mind a good actress. It's the illusion of relative innocence that entices. But a genuine great attitude is difficult to play-act. Looks are important but it's really the attitude that we are seeking: ideally a true GFE where the responsiveness is genuine. Demanding 400 up front stamps out this possibility pretty effectively.

PTG summed it up nicely here. I don't agonize too much about who else the SB might have seen, I just like one who "feels" new to this. Of course, one of the ways to get that feeling is to find girls who "actually" are new to this. But it's not the only way.

Due to my family situation (married) and professional considerations, recruiting SB's IRL poses a lot of risks, so I focus on SA. One filtering mechanism I have mentioned before is to avoid if at all possible any discussion of price or services in advance. I have found that girls who will go to the FC with you without naming a price are very unlikely to be "pro's" and very likely to provide the kind of GFE+ that I crave.

[Dsprdo]

This thread has gotten away from story time, so pardon me if I relate a SB success story. I have been on and off SA for about five years and have had lots of highs and lows. One of my first and favorite friends from the site was 19 and new when I met her. We were together on and off for over a year, then she got serious with a guy her age, got pregnant, moved in with him and we parted ways. We texted occasionally over a couple of years, just staying in touch, but she was trying to make a go of her IRL thing. A couple of days ago I heard from her and she told me that it was finally over. I was sympathetic and told her I would be glad to listen if she needed to talk. She asked when she could stop by and we agreed to meet. After we caught up and she told me the story she said " I came over for a reason-I haven't been with anyone else in two years". The sex was as good as it had been at the start. When we were done I asked her if this had been a bit of a revenge move and she smiled and said maybe a little. I had planned to give her the same allowance as before but that was not the mood, so as I walked her out, I hugged her and told her I would be here for her. I expect that we will pick things back up and I will be helping her out as she moves on. The point of the story is that, yes, at the end of the day, they take money for sex, but when you find a good one and there is a connection there is no comparison to these girls and a straight up escort.

[TheHobbyLobby]

Ok, so I normally don't have good luck on SA. However, this time around I got my money's worth. I am chatting it up with some women and these are clearly pros. Do any of you have intel on the ladies below. I am at the point where I am getting ready to meet them.

1. https://www.seeking.com/member/49ed0...f-71b30a9794d6.

So this girl is clearly ready to go to the FC. She is a stripper and probably a pro. Any intel would be greatly appreciated.

2. https://www.seeking.com/member/e6efe...5-f5923716dfd1.

Ok the picture looks very familiar. I know she has been on the site for a while. I think I remember hearing some negative stuff about her. Can anyone confirm?

3. https://www.seeking.com/member/9cdb3...e-400f0a42e172.

So this is one I am going to meet this week. Again, I feel like I've seen her before and can't remember if she is on the up and up.

Be safe everyone.

[DoggieFan]

I forget if it was on this board or another one, but I saw a recommendation for the Call Her Daddy podcast. I've listened to a bunch of the episodes and the girls are effing hilarious!! And there's a lot of good intel there as well. Highly recommend. Likit.

I posted it on 5/8, post #16541.

I agree, the Daddy Girls are a riot & there is some definite gold to be mined on their Podcasts.

Especially for us older Daddies, that may not know texting etiquette & using social media effectively.

A recent episode helped me to understand why my LTSB felt the need to completely severe all contact when it was time for us to end.

Really a must listen to!

[PartyTimeGuy]

You report escorts on SA? They're ALL escorts! What's the difference in her saying "400" upfront or 400 after flirting with you for a little while and pretending to like you? It's all the same! As soon as they get taken down by SA, they just put up another profile anyways. You're just making it harder for the rest of us because once she puts up the new profile, we all think she's new. Then we get stuck wasting our time meeting the same girls over and over again.

The not-so-subtle difference we desire between them is that a "true" SB is somewhat of an amateur, preferably brand new to the scene, is choosy about the SD she decides upon and is about more than just the money. A really good actress can carry this off even if she does this full time and has a truckload of "SDs. " I don't mind a good actress. It's the illusion of relative innocence that entices. But a genuine great attitude is difficult to play-act. Looks are important but it's really the attitude that we are seeking: ideally a true GFE where the responsiveness is genuine. Demanding 400 up front stamps out this possibility pretty effectively.

Sugar sites have sadly become polluted with escorts and UTRs. If I wanted an escort or UTR there are far more efficient ways to find them than on a sugar site. One way I have discovered to find "true" SBs is to recruit them in the wild. This has its own set of problems but I have found it to be an exhilarating and extremely rewarding experience. Why doesn't everyone do this? It has a very high level of difficulty, demands an investment of time and patience and requires one to have game and be able to perfect it to a high art. I relish the challenge and enjoy the hunt as much as bagging the prize. One thing is for sure: in the end I definitely have a "true" SB.

[DCSeeker]

Does anyone have any intel on Mel Mel Mel?

[BigOne73]

How painful is reporting Escorts on SA?

They are ruining SA and would be so nice to report a couple.

Things like.

* What proof is needed? In my case, it is in SA Inbox. I said hello / interested, and she sent me a response "400".

* More importantly, would the escort know that I am the one who reported her? Good forbid that I issed off an easier. She will take her vengeance on me somehow.

Th.

You report escorts on SA? They're ALL escorts! What's the difference in her saying "400" upfront or 400 after flirting with you for a little while and pretending to like you? It's all the same! As soon as they get taken down by SA, they just put up another profile anyways. You're just making it harder for the rest of us because once she puts up the new profile, we all think she's new. Then we get stuck wasting our time meeting the same girls over and over again.

[BagIt]

I forget if it was on this board or another one, but I saw a recommendation for the Call Her Daddy podcast. I've listened to a bunch of the episodes and the girls are effing hilarious!! And there's a lot of good intel there as well. Highly recommend. Likit.

https://podtail.com/en/podcast/call-her-daddy/

[LikItFun]

A couple questions about the inner workings of SA:

1. If you downloaded the SA app from the Apple store before it was pulled, can you still use it? I deleted my app, and then I couldn't download it again. I'm wondering if there are still people out there who are using the iPhone app. Anyone of you know the answer?

2. Premium accounts for SBs. I know that SBs can get a premium account if they use a. Edu email address. Can a SB pay for a premium account? What's the difference in the two "premium" icons in the photo? I think the star is an edu free SB, is the other one a paid Premium account?

Thanks!! Likit.

[LikItFun]

I forget if it was on this board or another one, but I saw a recommendation for the Call Her Daddy podcast. I've listened to a bunch of the episodes and the girls are effing hilarious!! And there's a lot of good intel there as well. Highly recommend. Likit.