"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[TomDickNHarry]

I finally find a SB who didn't mind telling me how she goes about this. In her case she likes to have three regulars to see. As long as she has three, she is off of SA. When one drops out for whatever reason, she is back on looking until she finds one more. Three works for her as she wants to be able to meet up at least once a week with one of them to be sure she has enough money for her monthly bills. I asked why not just find one rich guy instead with an allowance. She doesn't want to be tied down and locked in to whatever just one guy wants her to do for that allowance.

That doesn't surprise me. The one thing I'll say is that it's not necessarily she's looking for 3 by choice, it's easy for them to find a guy who will give them a good amount once or on occasion, but it's really really hard for them to find consistency, a guy who will do that regularly. She does it that way out of the necessity, if she has 3 she'll probably see at least one of them weekly as she'll hear from each of them every week to 2 weeks. If she has less it might be a couple of weeks in between seeing anyone. Of the girls who have been around and are honest with you, consistency is their biggest complaint. Most of the guys have options, and know it, and like to play the field. They would almost all love to find the generous, great, consistent guy.

[JustLonely]

I have been reading about this one on here so I was ready when she messaged me out the blue this afternoon. Wanted half up front as she had been screwed twice before. Or I could pay her for pics / vids for that partial payment. I reported her to Seeking as a scammer. But I doubt she will be deleted. They have her as the feature today.

[UKnowWho]

So I've been trying to set up a new profile (just like to switch it up every now and then) and each time after a couple of days when I go to log in to this new account it says "profile deleted. " This has happened twice now. There are no reasons given, no emails sent, just deleted.

My account got deleted once and I had no idea why. I filled out a support ticket on their site (you don't need to be logged into an account, just go to https://www.seeking.com/help/ticket) and they sent me an email telling me why. In my case it was because I'd accidentally done "Delete Account" instead of "Disable Account", so not the same situation as yours, but they'll still probably tell you the reason.

[JustLonely]

Thank you for this breakdown. I typically do 1 month of SA every 6 months because in that 1 month, I can land a good enough haul to last me roughly 4-5 months and then I'll cool down until I tag 20-30 girls that I'm interested in enough to re-up.

My last month of paid subscription landed me 4 regulars that I could rely on, and a few BBBJ queens that I'm still seeing to this day. I noticed that your age range is rather ripe and I've noticed those girls so so flaky that if you don't land one while SA is their current infatuation then you're probably not going to be successful with them. I'd recommend trying to connect with them in their first week of membership because after that they have either lost interest, found one or two that have their attention, realized this game isn't for them or have been disgusted by the messages they've received.

Just a couple thoughts on things.

I finally find a SB who didn't mind telling me how she goes about this. In her case she likes to have three regulars to see. As long as she has three, she is off of SA. When one drops out for whatever reason, she is back on looking until she finds one more. Three works for her as she wants to be able to meet up at least once a week with one of them to be sure she has enough money for her monthly bills. I asked why not just find one rich guy instead with an allowance. She doesn't want to be tied down and locked in to whatever just one guy wants her to do for that allowance.

[FarFarAway]

My month membership is almost up, so I decided to add up numbers to see if it's been as bad as it seemed with girls not logging back in. Over the month I found 22 girls with recent logins (max of 5 days before I rejoined) I was interested in, median age of 19.5. Of those, more than a third (8) haven't logged back in since I messaged them.

I'm curious to hear if this all matches others' experiences or not. I'm not sure if I'll renew. I don't mind if a girl isn't interested in my message / profile, but sending 30 messages and having 15 not even get read hardly seems worth it.

One thing that matters, where are you, generally? Everyone's bowl is local. Your experience doesn't seem that off to me. I don't keep track in that way, perhaps it would depress me. LOL. YK those who have disappeared, or dropped off after taking some steps, they're real amateurs. If they were UTR escorts, you'd already have FCd them. To me, that is the value of the site, to find PYTs who aren't taking on any comers.

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I signed up paid with Vanilla card was on for about 24 hours and now cannot get back in Maybe I used my AOL account and they tracked me from before. 3 times I lost money.

Any ideas Thanks CM.

I would email SA's customer service and ask them to give you access, or provide a reason why they won't.

You can dispute the charge with Vanilla and they will put the $90 back on your card. But that will also cause SA to permanently ban you.

It's theft, but they are the only game in town.

If you sign up again, use all new stuff. Don't even use the same computer or phone to sign up. Get a burner and a new email address. Use a different photo. Different address.

[CandyMan555]

I signed up paid with Vanilla card was on for about 24 hours and now cannot get back in Maybe I used my AOL account and they tracked me from before. 3 times I lost money.

Any ideas Thanks CM.

[BookerTNelson]

My month membership is almost up, so I decided to add up numbers to see if it's been as bad as it seemed with girls not logging back in. Over the month I found 22 girls with recent logins (max of 5 days before I rejoined) I was interested in, median age of 19.5. Of those, more than a third (8) haven't logged back in since I messaged them.

Two more have logged in but haven't read what I sent. Four read but didn't reply. Three of those four viewed my profile and the fourth has a premium account so she could've viewed it too, so it must have been my pics or profile that bombed rather than the message I sent.

One was some sort of scam. One was car-less and lived too far to deal with going to pick up. One was too boring in chat to continue with.

One was a really hot 18 yo who made plans via text to meet me for lunch in a few days, but then ghosted me the next day. She signed into SA a day after that, but hasn't been back on for a few weeks now, so I don't know if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

Another was an utterly flawless girl who'd just turned 18 a few weeks earlier and I caught on her first day on SA. We met for lunch and it went well, so we made plans for her to come to my place a few days later and she acted excited about it. But then she went ghost the next day. She hasn't been back on SA since her her first day, so that's another one where I'm not sure if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

That leaves three. One 21 yo I fucked but she was skankier than I expected, so no repeat. Then there's another 21 yo who's been blowing me regularly, and an 18 yo I've been fucking regularly.

Getting down to the wire here, I recently messaged 8 more girls who were on the -maybe- pile. Three no-login-sinces, two didn't read, and one read but no reply. One 19 yo replied today and we're talking, and one 21 yo replied yesterday and we're meeting for lunch tomorrow. Maybe. She's boring too so I'm not trying very hard.

I'm curious to hear if this all matches others' experiences or not. I'm not sure if I'll renew. I don't mind if a girl isn't interested in my message / profile, but sending 30 messages and having 15 not even get read hardly seems worth it.

Thank you for this breakdown. I typically do 1 month of SA every 6 months because in that 1 month, I can land a good enough haul to last me roughly 4-5 months and then I'll cool down until I tag 20-30 girls that I'm interested in enough to re-up.

My last month of paid subscription landed me 4 regulars that I could rely on, and a few BBBJ queens that I'm still seeing to this day. I noticed that your age range is rather ripe and I've noticed those girls so so flaky that if you don't land one while SA is their current infatuation then you're probably not going to be successful with them. I'd recommend trying to connect with them in their first week of membership because after that they have either lost interest, found one or two that have their attention, realized this game isn't for them or have been disgusted by the messages they've received.

Just a couple thoughts on things.

[TomDickNHarry]

Sometimes they delete the profile if you don't confirm the email address using the link to the email address you used, also the vpn might be an issue if it switches the country every time try to set the vpn to united states just a different city from you are in.

I confirmed the link and the VPN is in the US, I'm just using epic privacy browser. I don't know but it's happened to me twice in a row.

[Avash88]

Sometimes they delete the profile if you don't confirm the email address using the link to the email address you used, also the vpn might be an issue if it switches the country every time try to set the vpn to united states just a different city from you are in.

So I've been trying to set up a new profile (just like to switch it up every now and then) and each time after a couple of days when I go to log in to this new account it says "profile deleted. " This has happened twice now. There are no reasons given, no emails sent, just deleted. I'm using a VPN, different email and even changed my computer's MAC address. The profile description and text shouldn't be any issue and in fact it seems like it was approved prior to the deletion. Anyone have the same experience or ideas as to why it's being deleted?

[TomDickNHarry]

So I've been trying to set up a new profile (just like to switch it up every now and then) and each time after a couple of days when I go to log in to this new account it says "profile deleted. " This has happened twice now. There are no reasons given, no emails sent, just deleted. I'm using a VPN, different email and even changed my computer's MAC address. The profile description and text shouldn't be any issue and in fact it seems like it was approved prior to the deletion. Anyone have the same experience or ideas as to why it's being deleted?

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Already today I have had two hot POT's ask if I can move to WhatsApp. I am missing too much pussy over what should be a trivial issue! Does anyone else use their computer desktop for these apps? Can anyone advise on how to set them up so they are secure? Not thrilled about logging on to apps without VPN and encryption. Any advice or links to resources appreciated.

If you're going to use WhatsApp, or similar, I suggest getting a burner and only using it with cell data to access the internet, and never connecting to WiFi with it.

Download WhatsApp on that phone, and never log onto it on any other device.

Use that burner for all your SA-related activities, and nothing else.

Pay cash for the burner and for the monthly refill cards. Don't register the burner with the cell carrier beyond the minimum they require to set up the device.

[UKnowWho]

My month membership is almost up, so I decided to add up numbers to see if it's been as bad as it seemed with girls not logging back in. Over the month I found 22 girls with recent logins (max of 5 days before I rejoined) I was interested in, median age of 19.5. Of those, more than a third (8) haven't logged back in since I messaged them.

Two more have logged in but haven't read what I sent. Four read but didn't reply. Three of those four viewed my profile and the fourth has a premium account so she could've viewed it too, so it must have been my pics or profile that bombed rather than the message I sent.

One was some sort of scam. One was car-less and lived too far to deal with going to pick up. One was too boring in chat to continue with.

One was a really hot 18 yo who made plans via text to meet me for lunch in a few days, but then ghosted me the next day. She signed into SA a day after that, but hasn't been back on for a few weeks now, so I don't know if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

Another was an utterly flawless girl who'd just turned 18 a few weeks earlier and I caught on her first day on SA. We met for lunch and it went well, so we made plans for her to come to my place a few days later and she acted excited about it. But then she went ghost the next day. She hasn't been back on SA since her her first day, so that's another one where I'm not sure if she met someone else or changed her mind about being a SB.

That leaves three. One 21 yo I fucked but she was skankier than I expected, so no repeat. Then there's another 21 yo who's been blowing me regularly, and an 18 yo I've been fucking regularly.

Getting down to the wire here, I recently messaged 8 more girls who were on the -maybe- pile. Three no-login-sinces, two didn't read, and one read but no reply. One 19 yo replied today and we're talking, and one 21 yo replied yesterday and we're meeting for lunch tomorrow. Maybe. She's boring too so I'm not trying very hard.

I'm curious to hear if this all matches others' experiences or not. I'm not sure if I'll renew. I don't mind if a girl isn't interested in my message / profile, but sending 30 messages and having 15 not even get read hardly seems worth it.

[DWinthrop]

Care to share what the damage was? You can pm me if you like.

I doubt it would translate. I was hitting it for free after the first time.

[RavensFan2012]

She was my slam piece up in NOVA this summer. I banged a bunch of 2019 HS grads headed down to VCU so I did a quick search in RVA to see if I recognized any of the new 18yos down there.

Care to share what the damage was? You can pm me if you like.