"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Automatic2015]

https://members.seeking.com/member/6...f-737179781a6c

Been messaging back and forth anyone have any experience with this lady? Seems cool.

Hey there buddy!

Were you able to take this any far? Past chat, meet and greet or FC. Appreciate any intel you can provide.

TIA.

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[Automatic2015]

Has anyone had the pleasure she is on SB.

Yes, I have seen her once.

PPM 500. I think I overpaid.

She is real, nice and reliable. Service was good and I did not even to try push towards bare.

I know someone who paid 400.

I did not repeat as I had better options at that price point and even lower.

If she was 400 or lower, I would have considered seeing her again.

Let me know what PPM is she working with lately and how it goes for you if decide to take the plunge.

Peace out brother!

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[Cowboy1964]

Has anyone had the pleasure she is on SB.

[Gobig2]

Done, sorry about that.

Cannot PM you.

[Member #6575]

Agreed no doubt good points here.

Cannot PM you.

[DrSummer]

Guys,

After 5 years on seeking, my account got suspended few days ago. The email says "suspension" not a ban. Does anyone know if there is a difference between a suspension and a ban or all get the same e-mail? The following is what the e-mail says.

"We have detected some unusual activity on this account, resulting in suspension. During this time you will not be able to contact other users or pay for any services.

Please note that account suspensions are issued for either of the following reasons:

A violation of our Terms of Use.

Actions that trigger our automated security system".

It gives me an option to e-mail customer service if I want to provide further details. Just wondering if I should e-mail or not. Anyone with any experience, would like to hear. I am usually careful what I discuss there, but it is possible a girl I declined reported me. Another possibility is that I sent a lots of messages a day before my subscription ended, it may have triggered something.

Play Safe.

Dr. S.

[RegularJoe1985]

and we make this board look like cheapskates when we talk about only paying 200-300 for hours of raw dogging hot 20 year olds. Yes, I have paid as low as 200-300, but I've also paid 500, even 600 a couple times. I make very good money and it's just not that much for the service I'm getting imo. < 200/ hr for BBFS with an extremely hot girl who provides a great time is still an incredible rate. I'd welcome anyone who thinks otherwise to find a reputable 9/10 or 10/10 appearance provider in their 20's who has a similar rate anywhere in that ballpark or even double that for BBFS.

But this girl ain't it. I wouldn't even message her.

That's the same thing guys who shell out 1 K-5 K-10 K-more talk about cheapskates who shell out 500, even 600, LOL.

There's always a range for everyone.

Funny to see how people are quick to paint anyone paying less than them as cheapskates but don't compare themselves with guys who get houses / boats etc. For SBs.

Who's the cheapskate here? I guess everyone here is one.

[IadGuy2023]

Sounds to me like the boyfriend clammed up, Vivian talked ("I knew nothing about it, he was always jealous that I see other guys but I never thought he would do this!") and the only physical evidence was against him. It could even be true, who knows?

I was supposed to meet with her recently but skipped on me for a bigger fish. Haven't heard back from her since that date.

[Tidad]

Just a follow up -- she was charged with "CONSPIRACY. MURDER: 2ND DEGREE" . However at the Preliminary hearing in early January they "Nolle Prosequi " and dropped charges.

"Boyfriend" if true is charged with Murder in 2nd Degree .. set for trial in May .... who knows !

So who knows if the rumors were true -- her seeking is still active and she was logged in Jan 27th -- so if anybody does make contact approach with some caution.

(and let us all know here).

Sounds to me like the boyfriend clammed up, Vivian talked ("I knew nothing about it, he was always jealous that I see other guys but I never thought he would do this!") and the only physical evidence was against him. It could even be true, who knows?

[Vince2000]

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...4-cecd53d964ef

Asking for 500 can't host but up for anything but Greek.

https://members.seeking.com/member/9...5-4f6ca81dec90

DTF asking 400 . She can't host but wants to go lunch and then room. Good fun.

https://members.seeking.com/messages...6-18310bca6c58

I think most of them on this board already see her.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a...9-da8dd67abddb

Needs help with $$$ to pay bills but she doesn't want to jump straight away to get layed. Likes to date first.

[Member #6575]

https://www.wric.com/news/local-news/richmond/police-identify-man-shot-killed-on-floyd-avenue-in-richmonds-fan-neighborhood/

Police booked Vivian Lumpkin AKA Victoria and her boyfriend for this murder. There was a reddit post that got deleted earlier today. Rumor is the guy was her SD and she had her boyfriend kill him.

Her profile: https://members.seeking.com/member/d01cdb45-c282-438a-8dd0-aa220fb113e8

She's been on and off seeking around here for a few years. I'm sure many members have communicated with her.

Just a follow up -- she was charged with "CONSPIRACY. MURDER: 2ND DEGREE" . However at the Preliminary hearing in early January they "Nolle Prosequi " and dropped charges.

"Boyfriend" if true is charged with Murder in 2nd Degree .. set for trial in May .... who knows !

So who knows if the rumors were true -- her seeking is still active and she was logged in Jan 27th -- so if anybody does make contact approach with some caution.

(and let us all know here).

[Shampoo55]

we make this board look like cheapskates when we talk about only paying 200-300 for hours of raw dogging hot 20 year olds. Yes, I have paid as low as 200-300, but I've also paid 500, even 600 a couple times. I make very good money and it's just not that much for the service I'm getting imo. < 200/ hr for BBFS with an extremely hot girl who provides a great time is still an incredible rate. I'd welcome anyone who thinks otherwise to find a reputable 9/10 or 10/10 appearance provider in their 20's who has a similar rate anywhere in that ballpark or even double that for BBFS.

Current SB is at the upper end of that lower rate range, now 7-months in. Not in NVA area but further up East Coast. Philly burbs. As far as her rating: Look-a-like pics attached as she doesn't want actual pics on the net, and she has gone dark on SB sites since we became regular and has no interest in adding others, nor pic sharing.

I get the arguments on both sides, but pre-pandemic the 200-300 rates were pretty standard, I don't think inflation has been 100% at any time, so don't get the HUGE bump in prices guys are paying and justifying it as "inflation?" Perhaps when free Gubmint money was flowing guys were willing to be more generous?

But now it's just crazy to be in the 500-600 range. Shoot recently had a M&G where a solid 7 girl asked for 1,000 PPM or $6 K per month! CRAZY! These girls see the BSers on TicTok and think that's the norm. Go look at the PPM / Allowance Survey data on the "SugarLifestyleForum (SLF) on Reddit to see what's the "norm" in your area. In mine it looks like $300 PPM is right.

YMMV.

[Gobig2]

Agreed no doubt good points here.

Ok, I need to get something off my chest. Would I pay $500 for this girl? Hell no. She's a 6-7 on a good day and not my ideal. But I also don't think $500/ date is unreasonable for a 9-10/10 girl who is going bare with you and spending multiple hours with you. A lot of the very attractive pros in most major cities including Richmond charge 500-800 per hour for CFS, so if an extremely hot 23 yo wants to fuck me bare for 3 hours raw, I don't think that's unreasonable, especially with inflationary costs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for trying to get laid at the lowest price, but at the same time, if a quality girl provides a great time and feels that time is only worth $500, I don't have a problem with that. It's still an amazing deal, and we make this board look like cheapskates when we talk about only paying 200-300 for hours of raw dogging hot 20 year olds. Yes, I have paid as low as 200-300, but I've also paid 500, even 600 a couple times. I make very good money and it's just not that much for the service I'm getting imo. < 200/ hr for BBFS with an extremely hot girl who provides a great time is still an incredible rate. I'd welcome anyone who thinks otherwise to find a reputable 9/10 or 10/10 appearance provider in their 20's who has a similar rate anywhere in that ballpark or even double that for BBFS.

But this girl ain't it. I wouldn't even message her.

[CarpenterP2017]

Ok, I need to get something off my chest. Would I pay $500 for this girl? Hell no. She's a 6-7 on a good day and not my ideal. But I also don't think $500/ date is unreasonable for a 9-10/10 girl who is going bare with you and spending multiple hours with you. A lot of the very attractive pros in most major cities including Richmond charge 500-800 per hour for CFS, so if an extremely hot 23 yo wants to fuck me bare for 3 hours raw, I don't think that's unreasonable, especially with inflationary costs.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for trying to get laid at the lowest price, but at the same time, if a quality girl provides a great time and feels that time is only worth $500, I don't have a problem with that. It's still an amazing deal, and we make this board look like cheapskates when we talk about only paying 200-300 for hours of raw dogging hot 20 year olds. Yes, I have paid as low as 200-300, but I've also paid 500, even 600 a couple times. I make very good money and it's just not that much for the service I'm getting imo. < 200/ hr for BBFS with an extremely hot girl who provides a great time is still an incredible rate. I'd welcome anyone who thinks otherwise to find a reputable 9/10 or 10/10 appearance provider in their 20's who has a similar rate anywhere in that ballpark or even double that for BBFS.

But this girl ain't it. I wouldn't even message her.

So she has been offline for a bit and finally got her number so we can talk more in case she doesn't get back on SA. Said she is a bartender so at night she wouldn't respond back and will only text back during the day. We talk about a PPM and what she was requesting, She wanted 600 but will drop it 450 but if I wanted to go bare it will be 500. She is cute but honestly not worth 500, said her past SD paid that amount. If that's true damn so of you all be paying that amount here in Richmond I understand it this was NOVA or DC but not here. I left her on unread when she said 500, unless its 400 I'm good, more options out-here.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-3b33ad3241a3

[VABird12]

So she has been offline for a bit and finally got her number so we can talk more in case she doesn't get back on SA. Said she is a bartender so at night she wouldn't respond back and will only text back during the day. We talk about a PPM and what she was requesting, She wanted 600 but will drop it 450 but if I wanted to go bare it will be 500. She is cute but honestly not worth 500, said her past SD paid that amount. If that's true damn so of you all be paying that amount here in Richmond I understand it this was NOVA or DC but not here. I left her on unread when she said 500, unless its 400 I'm good, more options out-here.

https://members.seeking.com/member/d...d-3b33ad3241a3