"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Zcochran00]

Had a fun first encounter this evening, with one surprising bit of discussion at the end.

I'd been contacted a few days ago by a college girl outside my usual area (still driveable, but definitely further than I'd normally consider). We seemed to click over messaging and text, and I drove out to meet her this evening. We talked for a good couple hours before either of us made a move to get down to business. A couple of her text comments had indicated that she was new to sugaring, and that she knew sex was on the table but might need to feel comfortable with me first. After talking with her in person, though, she made a comment about putting on "a bit of an innocent act". In any case, we had a couple very enthusiastically fun rounds once we got going.

We hadn't discussed an allowance at all, which is usually a good sign. As we were dressing and getting ready to leave, I handed her an envelope (as I usually do), and she actually seemed legitimately confused by that. This was the weird part: she said something about "I thought that didn't happen until like the third or fourth meeting". I kinda went "huh? And told her that no, we'd actually met up and spent time together, so I was happy to help out.

We've all talked to girls that expected a gift at the M&G (which of course goes against standard protocol). I don't think I've ever talked to anyone before this who was happy to get together and fuck, but not actually get any allowance until a few meetings later.

Anyone ever had a similar experience?

[Zcochran00]

Many here use GV for contact w / SBs, it's the safe way to go, you can always ghost and it is hard for them to track you down. I have received multiple calls to my GV # in the past few days from 800 #s, each leaves a voicemail saying stuff like my SSN has been blocked, I need to call in to get this addressed. Obviously, this is a scam, IDK how / why my GV# is being targeted. It seems like this could be a strategy they are using generally.

I've been getting a bunch of those to my real cell number lately, so it seems to be a widespread scam, yeah.

[FarFarAway]

Many here use GV for contact w / SBs, it's the safe way to go, you can always ghost and it is hard for them to track you down. I have received multiple calls to my GV # in the past few days from 800 #s, each leaves a voicemail saying stuff like my SSN has been blocked, I need to call in to get this addressed. Obviously, this is a scam, IDK how / why my GV# is being targeted. It seems like this could be a strategy they are using generally.

[Ernest Ll]

Just a brief thumbs up on this one. An employed young gal who enjoys after work drinks at a hotel bar. YMMV but very fun up in the room as well.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ba575...7-b93f0479ac3b

Like the general look but always wonder about imipacts of preganancy, and whe she prefers not to say how many kids, I'm thinking at least 2. Trying to avoid the "punched lasagna" or too much tummy softness.

[RVASpider]

She got a ride to my place tonight. The good is that she looks like her pics, and maybe a little slimmer. Mid to late 20's. The pussy is very tight, so if you got girth take it easy. The head game was ok, but she seems willing to please.

The bad s that she talks a lot. Keep her focused on the task at hand or she'll go off on a tangent.

Honestly she does not come across as your typical SB although her conversation says she wants something ongoing. Really not sure if I'll repeat, but as I sit here thinking about how tight she was, it will be hard not to repeat. My overall opinion is that she was just ok.

Thanks for the report. I may hang out once just because of the tightness.

[JustLonely]

Just a brief thumbs up on this one. An employed young gal who enjoys after work drinks at a hotel bar. YMMV but very fun up in the room as well.

https://www.seeking.com/member/ba575...7-b93f0479ac3b

[TomDickNHarry]

Ok guys, I'm in the midwest but you guys rock the sugar world. I'm in a relatively small (think 100 k) city so there's not a ton of options but enough to keep a guy satisfied. I've had two dinner dates with my latest prospect. She's open to everything. The next date should seal the deal. Last date we discussed the allowance. She said when she studied abroad in Korea she was paid 400,000 which is the USD equivalent about 350 ppm. I'm used to 100 - maybe 150. I pay more in Vegas for one and done, and remember this is small city rates. This girl is a hot little latina and wants (or so she says) an exclusive arrangement. She has expensive tastes, although I picked the restaurants. Dinner was 150 each date. I don't provide any gift until the drilling begins. I didn't give her an amount but she's hinting at 3. 3 per week simply is not in my budget. Typically I'm at 100 plus an occasional small bonus plus dinners plus a vacation together (think Vegas). She doesn't have a car and has 5 roommates so her options are a bit limited as well. I'd like to retain this one if possible (and if the bedroom activity is good). How would you guys approach this for a guy on a limited budget but willing to spend on mutual fun in addition to a modest allowance?

First of all, as has been mentioned in this thread a lot, who knows what she got in the past or if she did it at all. Even if it's true, it's probably not as much as she says (they always embellish) and Korea has no applicability to here anyway. But "what I got last time" is a very common negotiating tactic that they can read about on forums and reddit that helps frame the price. You just need to decide what you want to give her and make the offer. Honestly, I wouldn't do even do a 3rd dinner without a negotiation to make sure it's going somewhere at an allowance you can do. Sounds like you're going to nice places, and are going to be in for almost 500 bucks without any clothes coming off? I've been patient like that with some that say they need to get comfortable but I don't spend a lot of money in the process, that way I know they're not rinsers and are really just trying to get comfortable. And heck, it it were regular dating I expect physical things to be happening by date 2 or 3. If you do want to make your offer in person, change the plan to meeting for a cocktail or meeting at a hip coffee shop and save 100+ in case it goes nowhere. If she balks at that, she's a rinser and / or is not likely to accept your offer anyway. As far as amount, 200 in my town has become the bare minimum. If you really like her and can swing it, that's probably what I'd offer, and I'd frame it as she did, "In the past I've done 100 to 150 but I really like you and want to make this work and would do 200 a date for you, but that's the best I can do, especially with your living situation and transportation issues. " Good luck brother.

[Geechie Dan]

Please do. I've been texting with her but haven't been able to find time that works for me. Are you going to her place?

She got a ride to my place tonight. The good is that she looks like her pics, and maybe a little slimmer. Mid to late 20's. The pussy is very tight, so if you got girth take it easy. The head game was ok, but she seems willing to please.

The bad s that she talks a lot. Keep her focused on the task at hand or she'll go off on a tangent.

Honestly she does not come across as your typical SB although her conversation says she wants something ongoing. Really not sure if I'll repeat, but as I sit here thinking about how tight she was, it will be hard not to repeat. My overall opinion is that she was just ok.

[RVASpider]

Actually I have something set up for tonight. I will report back.

Please do. I've been texting with her but haven't been able to find time that works for me. Are you going to her place?

[Geechie Dan]

Did you meet up with her?

Actually I have something set up for tonight. I will report back.

[RVASpider]

https://www.seeking.com/member/100b4...2-f09b9a184c01

Anyone have intel on this SB? In my messaging with her she seems like a traditional pro.

Did you meet up with her?

[HappyHunter44]

What would others do?

I would do what Dimples572 said. One thing that must be remembered is SA fills an attention getting narcissistic need for many women who never intend on putting out fully. They get their high on feeling wanted and then move on to next guy. Need to weed those out fast and move on. Too many fish in the sea to spend time on one that purposely cut the line.

[Truncated]

A few days ago I described an amazing M / G that led to a very hot in car experience, to be followed by a date scheduled for yesterday. Lots of anticipatory "can't wait" type messages exchanged both ways over the last few days, including a nasty (in the good sense) message from her when she got home from work on Tuesday. I replied in a similarly nasty vein right away, expecting to hear from her later that evening. No reply at all. Then I messaged early yesterday (Wednesday) morning inquiring about the logistics of our planned meeting. Again, no reply -- and so of course no date. But I do see she was back on SA last night. So, should I message and ask what went wrong for curiosity if no other reason. Or, since she kind of blew me off, just forget about her and move on (I do have at least 2 good options still in my queue). What would others do?

Move on.

In 2019, any female who doesn't reply to a couple of messages is best left alone. Not only to save your time, but to avoid her claiming you are making her uncomfortable or stalking her.

[Dimples572]

A few days ago I described an amazing M / G that led to a very hot in car experience, to be followed by a date scheduled for yesterday. Lots of anticipatory "can't wait" type messages exchanged both ways over the last few days, including a nasty (in the good sense) message from her when she got home from work on Tuesday. I replied in a similarly nasty vein right away, expecting to hear from her later that evening. No reply at all. Then I messaged early yesterday (Wednesday) morning inquiring about the logistics of our planned meeting. Again, no reply -- and so of course no date. But I do see she was back on SA last night. So, should I message and ask what went wrong for curiosity if no other reason. Or, since she kind of blew me off, just forget about her and move on (I do have at least 2 good options still in my queue). What would others do?

Just my common rule to go by, but its if I've sent two messages after their most recent reply and don't get a response I let it go & move on. I get it that these girls are getting a ton of attention but no one's that busy that over a two or three day period that if they're truly interested that they can't respond at least once over a couple day period. If they're actually interested they'll get back to you just out of common courtesy.

[BlueEyedMan58]

A few days ago I described an amazing M / G that led to a very hot in car experience, to be followed by a date scheduled for yesterday. Lots of anticipatory "can't wait" type messages exchanged both ways over the last few days, including a nasty (in the good sense) message from her when she got home from work on Tuesday. I replied in a similarly nasty vein right away, expecting to hear from her later that evening. No reply at all. Then I messaged early yesterday (Wednesday) morning inquiring about the logistics of our planned meeting. Again, no reply -- and so of course no date. But I do see she was back on SA last night. So, should I message and ask what went wrong for curiosity if no other reason. Or, since she kind of blew me off, just forget about her and move on (I do have at least 2 good options still in my queue). What would others do?