"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

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I opened up an account in a local bank and opened a post office box and all credit card and bank statement go to the p o box I use that credit card for the hotel You have to give your license and home address to the post office so make sure you keep the box paid for. You don't want a notice to your house that you owe money for the p o box. Be safe CM.

That PO Box address is now on your credit reports because the card issuer provided it to the bureaus. If you are married and apply for a mortgage or other joint credit, your SO might see the PO address on your reports.

That PO address will also begin to appear on sites like Spokeo and WhitePages in reference to your and your SO's names, because those sites purchase their data from the credit bureaus and other sources.

Also, anyone can get your home address from the PO if they submit a form to the PO requesting it.

[EBob1111]

Probably more utr, it was a few years back, definitely didn't do 4, can't remember how much. Did dinner, then FC. Funny I actually saw her at Coopers Hawk not too long ago, think she was on a sugar date that night too.

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I texted with her last week and had a date set for Monday, location Coopers Hawk at her suggestion. I had her talked down to 300 but I canceled and ended up railing a 22-year old VCU girl in her apartment that afternoon instead for the price of a pair of Doc Marten's she wanted. Much better decision!

[BStreet]

Probably more utr, it was a few years back, definitely didn't do 4, can't remember how much. Did dinner, then FC. Funny I actually saw her at Coopers Hawk not too long ago, think she was on a sugar date that night too.

Does anyone have experience with her? - https://www.seeking.com/member/0d017...d-0e6f9ec4f63c.

I meesaged her this morning and she got back in touch pretty quick. She had obviously read my profile and dropped a few lines indicating that we were on the same page.

We started texting and she sent me a very nice picture and asked when we could meet. I told her tomorrow evening and she asked to meet for dinner and also asked if I was free all evening as though FC after dinner is on the table. She then said that she wanted 400 PPM and I told her that it is reasonable but out of my range right now and she came back with 350 for the 1st meet and just 200 PPM after that.

I'm perfectly happy with that if it is not a scam but I get the feeling that she will somehow want the 350 at dinner promising FC after but will then disappear.

Any info would be appreciated!

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[ItsAHobby45]

I'm sure you don't need my advice but I'm going to remind you of some things: this site isn't a secret. There is no reason "someone" had to tell her that she had been the subject of a posting here. It's easily possible that she checks in every day, just to take a look. A smart girl will set Google alerts for her screen names across whatever websites and let Google do the work for her; she'll get a notification any time a screen name of hers hits the internet. This is why I almost never post w exact screen names. Just saying.

I completely understand what you're saying. I can't expect anything I put into public domain to remain private. In this particular case Ava told me that another guy told her that she was being reviewed on a site and based on the information this guy gave her she knew it was me. While these girls are perfectly capable of finding this site just like you or I did I don't think we should be doing the leg work for them and inviting them here.

[MulchMan]

Does anyone have experience with her? - https://www.seeking.com/member/0d017...d-0e6f9ec4f63c.

I meesaged her this morning and she got back in touch pretty quick. She had obviously read my profile and dropped a few lines indicating that we were on the same page.

We started texting and she sent me a very nice picture and asked when we could meet. I told her tomorrow evening and she asked to meet for dinner and also asked if I was free all evening as though FC after dinner is on the table. She then said that she wanted 400 PPM and I told her that it is reasonable but out of my range right now and she came back with 350 for the 1st meet and just 200 PPM after that.

I'm perfectly happy with that if it is not a scam but I get the feeling that she will somehow want the 350 at dinner promising FC after but will then disappear.

Any info would be appreciated!

She needs Christmas money. As soon as she gets the 350 you will never see her again. I would move on as the ratio of SDs to SBs is in your favor. As a last ditch effort I would try for 200 and let her know that there are several other women on the site in that range. Also, the fact that she got back with you quick tells me she is either desperate or a pro. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.

[Tidad]

I'll post publicly as I don't see her being one of the prized sb's that I keep quiet about until I'm done with them. This will be a one time thing. She sent me some pretty inviting pictures so I just want to stick my dick in her a few times and then I'll lose interest.

Has anyone had any luck with Angelic_Ava? She's ghosted me as I suspect someone from here told her that she was being talked about on this site. I found her on Tinder this morning and her pictures piqued my interest again. She's a little hot piece of ass if anyone can make it happen. She's a server at a restaurant in colonial heights that's geared more towards gentlemen so I may have to stop by and see what she looks like in person before I give her a case of GPS so she'll respond to me and let me fuck her a few times.

I'm sure you don't need my advice but I'm going to remind you of some things: this site isn't a secret. There is no reason "someone" had to tell her that she had been the subject of a posting here. It's easily possible that she checks in every day, just to take a look. A smart girl will set Google alerts for her screen names across whatever websites and let Google do the work for her; she'll get a notification any time a screen name of hers hits the internet. This is why I almost never post w exact screen names. Just saying.

[Tidad]

Does anyone have experience with her? - https://www.seeking.com/member/0d017...d-0e6f9ec4f63c.

I meesaged her this morning and she got back in touch pretty quick. She had obviously read my profile and dropped a few lines indicating that we were on the same page.

We started texting and she sent me a very nice picture and asked when we could meet. I told her tomorrow evening and she asked to meet for dinner and also asked if I was free all evening as though FC after dinner is on the table. She then said that she wanted 400 PPM and I told her that it is reasonable but out of my range right now and she came back with 350 for the 1st meet and just 200 PPM after that.

I'm perfectly happy with that if it is not a scam but I get the feeling that she will somehow want the 350 at dinner promising FC after but will then disappear.

Any info would be appreciated!

My own rule has always been: dinner / drinks are fine for a "get to know you" but no pussy, no pay.

True enough, I've lost out on some dates but I've never lost any money.

[FanRat]

Does anyone have experience with her? - https://www.seeking.com/member/0d017...d-0e6f9ec4f63c.

I meesaged her this morning and she got back in touch pretty quick. She had obviously read my profile and dropped a few lines indicating that we were on the same page.

We started texting and she sent me a very nice picture and asked when we could meet. I told her tomorrow evening and she asked to meet for dinner and also asked if I was free all evening as though FC after dinner is on the table. She then said that she wanted 400 PPM and I told her that it is reasonable but out of my range right now and she came back with 350 for the 1st meet and just 200 PPM after that.

I'm perfectly happy with that if it is not a scam but I get the feeling that she will somehow want the 350 at dinner promising FC after but will then disappear.

Any info would be appreciated!

[ArtImperial]

Have been seeing a fun little 19 year old RVA spinner. This is not a SD / SB thing for us, just an age-gap FB thing: I know her from elsewhere, managed to seduce her, and we get together a couple times a month for naked fun. She definitely appreciates the older man concept, and I've helped her out with professional / financial advice and other favors when I can, but otherwise it's a non-compensation arrangement, and there's a pleasant lack of expectations / strings attached for both. We both have other outside interests sexually, and I'm more than happy to be a friend, help her out, and enjoy whatever fruits she is willing to share with me.

So we're cuddling in bed the other day and the subject of Sugar Daddies came up. Seems she has a friend from school who talks about SB experiences, and she expressed curiosity about sugaring. I told her I'd done some of that from time to time (her ears perked up), and that I could probably be of assistance if she was serious about finding a potential SD.

She seems pretty serious / excited about wanting this, but I also think mongers will need to be extra respectful with her, and show a bit of patience. And obviously I make no promises about her choices / interests, other than that she does seem like she seems serious about wanting to explore the bowl. She doesn't seem desperate for money, but is maybe in this more for the thrill of it, as well as the obvious extra spending money.

She's tall, thin, blondish, small boobs, cute face, fun attitude, minimal tats. If I had to describe her sexually in one word it would be "fun". She has a good time fucking, and we have a lot of laughs. Not as wild and sex-crazed as some, but pretty willing and adventurous sexually. She likes it.

I told her a bit about what I knew of the bowl, and could pass her number along to guys who I thought were cool and would treat her right, and that I could help her screen guys, and she's on board with at least exploring the idea. I told her to probably expect something at least in the $$ range, and that seemed agreeable, but might also vary based on her interest / attraction / etc. She doesn't want her pics posted online (which I will totally respect), but she's okay if I send pics privately.

Being open to other fun, I'd welcome trades for digits of girls who might be looking for another daddy, but also not required. Feel free to PM me with questions.

[CandyMan555]

Keep hobbying and family finances as separated as possible. Use a card only in your name, set up paperless statements. If you have serious security concerns like a security clearance then nothing you do will hide it, so I say whatever to all this 007 opsec. If Saudis or Israelis want dirt in you they will get it, and if you know they are looking for you then you should exit the sugar game asap.

Our biggest threat is scammers that try for in-person scams as the threat of physical violence is present and very difficult to explain away regardless of the outcome. Opsec for that is pretty simple; burner phones, cash payments, effective pre-meet screening, public meets before private. Don't let them in the car or hotel room until your spidey senses are all green.

Don't use hotels right next to office or home. In the past I've hooked up with girls that live in my general area but I stopped that after running in to one in the grocery store. Thankfully I was alone, and we chatted for a minute, but I left feeling uneasy for sure.

I've discussed using rewards schemes from hotel chains. I use it for the 10 am check in, but now I'm platinum so I get room upgrades and minibar credits which make FC dates even better. Add in the occasional free stay as well. The trade off is my name is connected to a ton of hotel visits. Again, unless you are being targeted you really don't need to worry beyond your cover story for ditching work / family to get that puss.

I've prepared myself for the day the SO gets wise to things, if ever. Don't get greedy and arouse suspicion. Have a budget and stick to it. This is sugar dating so expect to spend some sugar. Don't go into financial ruin for random pussy that can't even cook or clean with their feminine studies degree.

If you come home from banging on some coed and the wife demands sex that evening, suck it up and muster a nut (or fake an orgasm? LOL) lest your wifey will become strifey.

On that, I make enough to be able to afford a divorce and continue sugaring, just not at the rate I do now.

There is a sticky on this forum that compiled all the good advice, read it! It saved me a ton of effort and money.

I opened up an account in a local bank and opened a post office box and all credit card and bank statement go to the p o box I use that credit card for the hotel You have to give your license and home address to the post office so make sure you keep the box paid for. You don't want a notice to your house that you owe money for the p o box. Be safe CM.

[Passport4]

I have been banned before for no good reason so I want to be careful what I put down for the credit card info.

Do I need a valid phone number?

Do I need a valid address?

They have previous info on me so I don't want t loose my money again T.

Thanks CM.

I asked this earlier about which specific card to use and did not get an answer. So in order to take advantage of their Black Friday 25% off, I went to Walgreens and bought a One Vanilla Prepaid Visa Gift Card. I wanted a Mastercard as that is what others had used, but they only had Visa and Amex. I then went and registered the card on the One Vanilla site and used a fake name and the address of the Walgreens. I then tried to activate the 30 days and got rejected several times. I got pretty frustrated, but was determined to keep trying. Then I went back on the One Vanilla Site and then saw there was a place to register a zipcode. I entered the same Walgreens Zip Code that I had previously used, and then went back to SA and it still did not go thru. Then about an hour later, it did. I guess not only do you need to have a registered zip code in your gift card that matches what you give SA, but you need to allow time for their system to get you in the system. Hope this helps.

[ItsAHobby45]

I've been texting with her too. Very off and on. Let me know how it goes.

You can PM me if you want.

Starkey.

I'll post publicly as I don't see her being one of the prized sb's that I keep quiet about until I'm done with them. This will be a one time thing. She sent me some pretty inviting pictures so I just want to stick my dick in her a few times and then I'll lose interest.

Has anyone had any luck with Angelic_Ava? She's ghosted me as I suspect someone from here told her that she was being talked about on this site. I found her on Tinder this morning and her pictures piqued my interest again. She's a little hot piece of ass if anyone can make it happen. She's a server at a restaurant in colonial heights that's geared more towards gentlemen so I may have to stop by and see what she looks like in person before I give her a case of GPS so she'll respond to me and let me fuck her a few times.

[CandyMan555]

I have been banned before for no good reason so I want to be careful what I put down for the credit card info.

Do I need a valid phone number?

Do I need a valid address?

They have previous info on me so I don't want t loose my money again T.

Thanks CM.

[EBob1111]

Keep hobbying and family finances as separated as possible. Use a card only in your name, set up paperless statements. If you have serious security concerns like a security clearance then nothing you do will hide it, so I say whatever to all this 007 opsec. If Saudis or Israelis want dirt in you they will get it, and if you know they are looking for you then you should exit the sugar game asap.

Our biggest threat is scammers that try for in-person scams as the threat of physical violence is present and very difficult to explain away regardless of the outcome. Opsec for that is pretty simple; burner phones, cash payments, effective pre-meet screening, public meets before private. Don't let them in the car or hotel room until your spidey senses are all green.

All good advice. I've come to the decision that I won't use hotels, period. I know I'm probably missing out on some great young college pussy a a result but I still have 4 regulars right now who are all under 30 and have their own place and all fuck like maniacs so that's good enough for me.

As long as I bang my wife a couple times a week there's no suspicion if I use being tired as an excuse on a night when I've already gone 2 or 3 rounds with one of my SBs.

[Starkey 2008]

I've been texting with her too. Very off and on. Let me know how it goes.

You can PM me if you want.

Starkey.

I've been talking to her on snap. She is horrible at communicating and will go days without responding. I'm supposed to meet her at the end of the week but I don't trust that she's actually going to show. This will be the first one that I won't meet in the FC simply because I'm sure she's going to go dark before we meet and I don't want to waste my money.