"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[DoggieFan]

Anyone have info on her? She's also on Tryst. Link. Seems like a straight up pro to me. Quoted me 300 incall and 350 outcall.

https://www.seeking.com/member/50c18...2-63d830e90d93

Like standard escort time, an hour or more like SB time, hang for two hours or more, MSOG?

That's really my preference. I'm looking for a cost per hour ratio of $100 an hour or less. Had a LTSB that stayed 3-8 hours, always during the day because she had a live in BF. 2 1/2 years with her. Legit dime piece! 23 when I met her.

Lists her body type as skinny, pics look like average. I’m a spinner kind of a guy.

Can anyone that has sampled her clarify?

[Geechie Dan]

Anyone have info on her? She's also on Tryst. Link. Seems like a straight up pro to me. Quoted me 300 incall and 350 outcall.

https://www.seeking.com/member/50c18...2-63d830e90d93

[DCSeeker]

You got to do you. But keep in mind, these babies can negotiate and change their terms anytime they want. Poppins offered to host FC at her place for $350 - $375, no M&G. Aphrodite offered PPM at $300, no M&G. And I promise you, Bell will negotiate and apparently has a "blackboard" menu, LOL! She will have "sex of any kind". She has with me.
Stay Safe!
Starkey.

This topic has been discussed on here for years. These girls prices are going to change depending on the guy and depending on the day. One guy said it best when he said the girls are like contractors that come and work on your house. If it's busy season and they're making money hand over fist, a plumber's going to charge you out the ass. If it's Christmas and not alot of work is coming in, they'll give you a deal. It's the same with these girls. It also has to do with how they feel that day. If they had to screw 6 guys at 200/ each to pay their 1200/ mo rent that week, their pussies could be hurting physically and then their price goes up for the next guy. And most of all, if she can't stand dealing with you, your quote is always going to be higher. Don't rely on the figures that you're getting on here. Every SD / SB is different with each experience. The price that a girl gives you is the amount she's going to need to touch your dick, not somebody else's dick.

[Geechie Dan]

Here is a new one on me. The scmas can get pretty intricate. I messaged a sexy pot on SA who goes by Appreciat1 ve - https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ab5...9-0431ebd5dac8.

I found her by searching Newest so this is a very recent profile.

Sorry for the long post but here was her 1st response to my: Hey, how ya doing, yadda-yadda-yadda:

"Hello! I am good. Pretty much liked your look =) How are you? I've actually got a deal for you. My name is Ilona and my job is representing young women in Russia who would like to meet American and Canadian men. By the way, I have a few girls in Richmond and can show you them. I have been working alone as the girls representative for one and a half years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.

My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. My fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect.

To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.

All the girls I represent are beautiful, educated, intelligent and when it comes to girls that are in Russia, they have passports with necessary visas to visit you in the US or Canada. Some of these girls are looking for an opportunity to travel. Others are hoping for something more serious (long-term relationships) or just have some fun (friends with benefits, NSA). I encourage both parties to be open, up front and honest about their desires. Otherwise, the match I make won't be a good one.

If you are interested in learning more about these girls or the local ones, send me your email address or WhatsApp number and I'll forward pictures and details. Adding a picture with your information increases your chances with the girls tremendously. Almost all of the girls I work with are looking for older, kinder, more mature men.

My email is ilona@ilonamatchmaker.com.

Best regards, Ilona. ".

I didn't respond and about a 1/2 hour later she sent this:

"Hm. Would you like to meet local girls? =) I have a few in your area actually. If you are interested, please leave me your email I can contact you on".

I responded with my monger gmail address. It should be interesting to see what the response is.

Be safe!

I got the same message. I was born on a day, but it wasn't yesterday.

[MineTooTell]

$400 up front?

There are no girls.

I got the same message. It's a automated form email. I got it within seconds of contacting 'her'. Much too quick for anyone to type it. Probably some group of guys running a scam or sex trafficking. Either way I'm staying away.

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Here is a new one on me. The scmas can get pretty intricate. I messaged a sexy pot on SA who goes by Appreciat1 ve - https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ab5...9-0431ebd5dac8.

I found her by searching Newest so this is a very recent profile.

Sorry for the long post but here was her 1st response to my: Hey, how ya doing, yadda-yadda-yadda:

"Hello! I am good. Pretty much liked your look =) How are you? I've actually got a deal for you. My name is Ilona and my job is representing young women in Russia who would like to meet American and Canadian men. By the way, I have a few girls in Richmond and can show you them. I have been working alone as the girls representative for one and a half years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.

My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. My fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect.

To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.

All the girls I represent are beautiful, educated, intelligent and when it comes to girls that are in Russia, they have passports with necessary visas to visit you in the US or Canada. Some of these girls are looking for an opportunity to travel. Others are hoping for something more serious (long-term relationships) or just have some fun (friends with benefits, NSA). I encourage both parties to be open, up front and honest about their desires. Otherwise, the match I make won't be a good one.

$400 up front?

There are no girls.

[Bill Cullen]

Here is a new one on me. The scmas can get pretty intricate. I messaged a sexy pot on SA who goes by Appreciat1 ve - https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ab5...9-0431ebd5dac8.

I found her by searching Newest so this is a very recent profile.

Sorry for the long post but here was her 1st response to my: Hey, how ya doing, yadda-yadda-yadda:

"Hello! I am good. Pretty much liked your look =) How are you? I've actually got a deal for you. My name is Ilona and my job is representing young women in Russia who would like to meet American and Canadian men. By the way, I have a few girls in Richmond and can show you them. I have been working alone as the girls representative for one and a half years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.

My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. My fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect.

To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.

All the girls I represent are beautiful, educated, intelligent and when it comes to girls that are in Russia, they have passports with necessary visas to visit you in the US or Canada. Some of these girls are looking for an opportunity to travel. Others are hoping for something more serious (long-term relationships) or just have some fun (friends with benefits, NSA). I encourage both parties to be open, up front and honest about their desires. Otherwise, the match I make won't be a good one.

If you are interested in learning more about these girls or the local ones, send me your email address or WhatsApp number and I'll forward pictures and details. Adding a picture with your information increases your chances with the girls tremendously. Almost all of the girls I work with are looking for older, kinder, more mature men.

My email is ilona@ilonamatchmaker.com.

Best regards, Ilona. ".

I didn't respond and about a 1/2 hour later she sent this:

"Hm. Would you like to meet local girls? =) I have a few in your area actually. If you are interested, please leave me your email I can contact you on".

I responded with my monger gmail address. It should be interesting to see what the response is.

Be safe!

Sent me the same thing, word for word. I blocked her.

[DoggieFan]

It probably means you've been banned. Back to square one. Change all your info and rejoin.

Are Tinder & Text Now related?

I use Google Voice, Text Now, Text Plus.

I deleted them for being around family for the holidays. Couldn't log back into Text Plus.

Text Plus is great because it allows you to set up an unlimited number of fake play numbers from almost any state area code & exchange in the country.

I use it to mess with an ex SB that ghosted me. Also I've been able to hook up with SBs, UTRs if I did something wrong on my first approach & got left on read.

Worked like a charm several times!

[Newbie1961]

It probably means you've been banned. Back to square one. Change all your info and rejoin.

Strange. Couldn't log back into my Tinder account anymore with my Textnow number. It sends secured code, which I entered. But then I keep getting the message "oops something wrong".

Anyone else experiencing this?

[S2568]

Here is a new one on me. The scmas can get pretty intricate. I messaged a sexy pot on SA who goes by Appreciat1 ve - https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ab5...9-0431ebd5dac8.

I found her by searching Newest so this is a very recent profile.

Sorry for the long post but here was her 1st response to my: Hey, how ya doing, yadda-yadda-yadda:

"Hello! I am good. Pretty much liked your look =) How are you? I've actually got a deal for you. My name is Ilona and my job is representing young women in Russia who would like to meet American and Canadian men. By the way, I have a few girls in Richmond and can show you them. I have been working alone as the girls representative for one and a half years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.

My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. My fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect.

To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.

I have received the same thing a while back and she has sent me a long list of Russian girls supposedly in local area and she will give you the contact if you pay her 300. Did not resopond again. Was contacted on SA today and same BS and told me the girls only charge 250 per the whole night!! Pretty attractive definitely a scam.

Stay prudent, don't let the little head rule you.

[FanRat]

Here is a new one on me. The scmas can get pretty intricate. I messaged a sexy pot on SA who goes by Appreciat1 ve - https://www.seeking.com/member/a1ab5...9-0431ebd5dac8.

I found her by searching Newest so this is a very recent profile.

Sorry for the long post but here was her 1st response to my: Hey, how ya doing, yadda-yadda-yadda:

"Hello! I am good. Pretty much liked your look =) How are you? I've actually got a deal for you. My name is Ilona and my job is representing young women in Russia who would like to meet American and Canadian men. By the way, I have a few girls in Richmond and can show you them. I have been working alone as the girls representative for one and a half years, have a website with more information, verify that the men are legitimate and attest that the girls I represent are legitimate.

My fee is payable when you are in touch with the girl of your choice via messages chaperoned by me If both people want to proceed, I'll provide all contact information. My fee is $300 when both parties choose to connect.

To help you pick the girls you like, I initially provide pictures and detailed anonymous information by email or WhatsApp including age and other information that you may ask for as well. When you pick a girl, I'll forward a message directly to that girl from you and they'll decide if they want to connect. If you'd like to contact multiple girls at once, I charge an upfront fee of $400 to handle all the connections. This covers up to twenty simultaneous contacts.

All the girls I represent are beautiful, educated, intelligent and when it comes to girls that are in Russia, they have passports with necessary visas to visit you in the US or Canada. Some of these girls are looking for an opportunity to travel. Others are hoping for something more serious (long-term relationships) or just have some fun (friends with benefits, NSA). I encourage both parties to be open, up front and honest about their desires. Otherwise, the match I make won't be a good one.

If you are interested in learning more about these girls or the local ones, send me your email address or WhatsApp number and I'll forward pictures and details. Adding a picture with your information increases your chances with the girls tremendously. Almost all of the girls I work with are looking for older, kinder, more mature men.

My email is ilona@ilonamatchmaker.com.

Best regards, Ilona. ".

I didn't respond and about a 1/2 hour later she sent this:

"Hm. Would you like to meet local girls? =) I have a few in your area actually. If you are interested, please leave me your email I can contact you on".

I responded with my monger gmail address. It should be interesting to see what the response is.

Be safe!

[ItsAHobby45]

Glad I seem to have come out of it unscathed, and I always managed to see her when her kids wasn't there. Still I've found that I enjoy the SB's more with a more personal connection and when they don't have a turnstile at their door.

Yes she's only good for an occasional pounding. She was seeing me for $75 a visit and she hosted so it was basically free pussy. She'd take in any hole that you want to put it in.

[RomanRich]

I can be blamed as one of the ones sharing her number. She did give me permission to share her number privately, just not publicly so she can't be mad. I shared it with 4 members in the last week and she's seen 3/4 that I know of so she isn't but so upset about all these unsolicited offers coming her way 😂.

I agree. It wasn't hard to set something up with her. Just wanted to put it out there that she's saying she doesn't like it. It was fun, I hope to repeat. Won't cry if I can't.

Stay safe.

RR.

[TopGun9]

I thought about putting Sugar Daddy on them, but I know that terms creeps out some girls.

Seeking Arrangement seems to convey the message but leaves some ambiguity if I was ever confronted about the card.

Like I wrote, I never make repeated contact with any female. If I give her a card and she doesn't text, she will not hear from me again.

If she posts it on social media, all they will get it a fake name and a burner number.

If she responds positively, she will learn more about me at a M&G.

But make no mistake. The second a girl says something that leaves me with the impression that she is uncomfortable, I ghost.

Strange. Couldn't log back into my Tinder account anymore with my Textnow number. It sends secured code, which I entered. But then I keep getting the message "oops something wrong".

Anyone else experiencing this?

[EBob1111]

I can be blamed as one of the ones sharing her number. She did give me permission to share her number privately, just not publicly so she can't be mad. I shared it with 4 members in the last week and she's seen 3/4 that I know of so she isn't but so upset about all these unsolicited offers coming her way.

Glad I seem to have come out of it unscathed, and I always managed to see her when her kids wasn't there. Still I've found that I enjoy the SB's more with a more personal connection and when they don't have a turnstile at their door.