"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Tidad]

Fellas I am in San Diego but you are the masters. THANK YOU for all the info here, I have been laughing at all the scammers and vapids on SA. I hope to be able to contribute here but I am a newbie. Let me throw this one out here.

https://www.seeking.com/member/006d4...f-228be0f30d67

I have had several perfectly normal chats with this girl, talking about grad school and what not, but at some point you have to start getting down to brass tacks, right? She is my ideal case, a college student with goals that needs a little help. Although that is not exactly clear from her profile, info is it. Here is a pic of the last few texts I've had with her, and frankly I don't know how to respond to her last text. Is she just playing dumb and jerking me around? She has been a member for a year, seriously acting like you just stumbled onto SA? Am I supposed to spend endless hours chatting up a girl like this to convince her to sell herself? Anyway I'm thinking that I'm wasting my time with this one. Or does anyone think this could moved forward from here?

I think you go straight to it; tell her you'd like to spend time together. She has joined a sugar daddy website after talking to a friend who is also on the site, she's a grad student so not a dummy. Even if she's not a grad student and her girlfriend didn't lead her there, its the story she is using to meet you and she's an adult female. She's been ducking (or not?) older men looking to fuck since she was a teenager. She knows exactly what you want, the question is how much do you want it? Ask her for a real world date, don't take "that time / day doesn't work" more than twice.

[MaxKat]

Fellas I am in San Diego but you are the masters. THANK YOU for all the info here, I have been laughing at all the scammers and vapids on SA. I hope to be able to contribute here but I am a newbie. Let me throw this one out here.

https://www.seeking.com/member/006d4...f-228be0f30d67

I have had several perfectly normal chats with this girl, talking about grad school and what not, but at some point you have to start getting down to brass tacks, right? She is my ideal case, a college student with goals that needs a little help. Although that is not exactly clear from her profile, info is it. Here is a pic of the last few texts I've had with her, and frankly I don't know how to respond to her last text. Is she just playing dumb and jerking me around? She has been a member for a year, seriously acting like you just stumbled onto SA? Am I supposed to spend endless hours chatting up a girl like this to convince her to sell herself? Anyway I'm thinking that I'm wasting my time with this one. Or does anyone think this could moved forward from here?

[Lobsid]

Had a sugar drop a very feminine looking mask in my passenger side. Another sugar found it, just told her must of belong to my sister who brought my car a few days ago.

I've NEVER had a SB in my car, but damned if someone at the dealership didn't leave a water bottle in the door compartment for my SO to find.

[Ernest Ll]

7. If the girl is ever in your ride, stop at a convenience store on the way home and give your car a thorough search. Under the seats, between seats, under mats, in door pockets. Look anywhere a bobble earring might fall into or drugs might get stashed.

I've NEVER had a SB in my car, but damned if someone at the dealership didn't leave a water bottle in the door compartment for my SO to find.

[Shampoo55]

I have been on and off SA for the past 3 years.

Want to jump back in but my personal situation now requires me to be super careful and "lean no trace" behind.

I sued to simply punch in my own CC, can't do that anymore.

How do others handle this. Stopped at Walgreens and the number of prepaid cc was overwhelming. No idea what to get or how it works?

Thanks in advance for your help on this.

What you will need is a prepaid Vanilla Visa Card. There is a picture of one posted by FarFarAway several pages (3+?) back. Remember there maybe a 5. 95 usage or signup fee so buy a bit more than the SA price. That will get you on SA.

However, if you want MAX privacy do the following:

1. Get a burner phone. Usually can find a cheap "smart" phone for $30 in the drug stores or Wally World. Renewal 35-50 depending on plan. You will have to buy a renewal 'card" each month, mix up where you buy that. PAY CASH. Use a fake name AND a real address. Select an address of a HUGE local Apt Complex, leave off the Apt #. Don't give a business address.

2. Sign up for and use a VOIP App for all of your sugar communications! Google Voice, TextNow, etc (read down there is a number of posts on these apps) Layer that on your burner phone NOT on your regular phone. There is often "leakage" with apps and you don't want that to happen if SO is around or borrowing your phone. Level 1 danger "happens" you can block the girl on the App. Level 3 danger and you block her AND toss the phone in the nearest body of water and start over.

3. Sign up for a burner email account. Some use the encrypted or hidden email accounts: Hushmail, proton, etc. You need a REAL phone number (burner number) to sign up with Gmail and Yahoo mail.

4. Sign up for SA using the Vanilla prepaid card. Use the above info to do so.

5. As OP have pointed out, use a "stage" name when talking with girls. Reveal little personal info. Don't tell them where you work, use competitor company if you must say something.

6. Pay cash for everything associated with the Bowl: hotels, gifts, food, etc. For goodness sake, don't keep receipts for any of it! Some guys get the girl to put the room on their CC and give them the cash for it.

7. If the girl is ever in your ride, stop at a convenience store on the way home and give your car a thorough search. Under the seats, between seats, under mats, in door pockets. Look anywhere a bobble earring might fall into or drugs might get stashed.

8. Wrap up used condoms and take them with you. Don't leave them in hotel, you can toss them in the trash when you stop to check your car.

That should help you transition to leaving little if any trace for a SO to find.

Good luck!

[John G Smith]

I have been on and off SA for the past 3 years.

Want to jump back in but my personal situation now requires me to be super careful and "lean no trace" behind.

I sued to simply punch in my own CC, can't do that anymore.

How do others handle this. Stopped at Walgreens and the number of prepaid cc was overwhelming. No idea what to get or how it works?

Thanks in advance for your help on this.

Honestly it depends on what level of privacy you're looking for. In this day and age, there's no such thing as "leave no trace" behind. .

But I'll give you a few levels of security and you can figure out what works for you.

Lavel 1 - If your spouse rarely or almost never checks your statements, and you just one to obscure the actual SA charge then you can maybe get a prepaid card (that's able to do online purchases) or a Paypal debit card. You pay SA with Paypal card. You can then load the Paypal or prepaid with cash at the store and then pay SA. The downside is if your spouse asks you why you have a prepaid card, then you may have problems. It's sort of like finding your spouse with a second phone.

Level 2 - If your spouse is regularly checking your paper statements and looking at your wallet, then get a new credit card and use a PO Box and sign up for paperless. And pay by mail. If she sees a legit credit card in your wallet, it probably won't raise any flags. She may make a mental note to look for statements, but she'll probably forget. And if she does ask, you can say you signed up for paperless. And then you can always give her an edited statement. Also you can use this credit card for dinners and hotels with SBs.

Level 3 - Your spouse has threatened divorce and / or is aggressively looking through paper statements, e-statements, and your credit report. My advice would be to not go on SA or just get divorced. If someone is aggressively looking for irregularities, they will find it. The only thing I could suggest would be to find someone in person who will essentially pay for SA for you and you pay them in cash. But of course you're now exposed to that person. And again, if you have to be this discreet just purchasing the SA membership, how are you going to hide allowance payments, gifts, dinners, and hotels for your sugar baby?

I think the Sugar Bowl is good if you have spouse that is not tech savvy or they're busy doing their own thing. But if you have a spouse that's on full alert or you have too much to lose, it's best not to play in the bowl. There's no advice that can be given to make it safe for you.

[Ernest Ll]

https://www.seeking.com/member/6a240...7-a6e49b4be064

Nice looking nurse. Verified her IRL -- newbie opsec!

She had an organic SD -- a surgeon at her hospital that used to take her to conferences and bang her in exchange for travel and gifts, no cash.

Very high opinion of herself.

[FreeSpirit2763]

Making a trip up to Richmond in the near future and wondering if anyone has any intel on this lady. Been talking a good game.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0861a...f-dba8e9d1ef7f

[MoCheeks65]

I have been on and off SA for the past 3 years.

Want to jump back in but my personal situation now requires me to be super careful and "lean no trace" behind.

I sued to simply punch in my own CC, can't do that anymore.

How do others handle this. Stopped at Walgreens and the number of prepaid cc was overwhelming. No idea what to get or how it works?

Thanks in advance for your help on this.

[John G Smith]

Wow, it's been almost 6 years since my last post. When the new laws in 2016 started attacking adult oriented websites I decided to take a break from online discussion on these topics until the dust settled.

I'm still reading a bunch of threads and reports to get caught up, but it's really interesting just seeing how everything has evolved! I've actually been in the sugar bowl the whole time I've just kept a low profile. I may share some of my experiences, but it looks like many people have been doing very well here. Since the San Diego Sugar Daddy forums are now more active, I'll probably spend more time there. But I'll definitely check this Richmond forum if you guys have any cool Meta Sugar Bowl discussions. I still see a few familiar members, which is great.

Stay safe out there!

[DoneThatOnce]

Is she still on the SA, I do miss her though, hot body and seen her for few years but she stopped responding was a great fuck she turned into respectful profession but did not know if she is back on the SA!!

PM me if have any details do not mind getting back to see her again.

Safe travels.

I have only seen her on WYP for the last 6 months. I have no contact info.

[S2568]

I thought I was the only lucky one who was fuc at #ng her, LOL.

Yeah she is the one.

For the bonus I do have some nice hot videos of her riding me!!

Is this the slim brunette Veronica that went into real estate? Good god she had a great body and loved sex.

[Ernest Ll]

Gift Wishlists are great to find more info on a POT. .... I found the exact same necklace on a wishlist via Amazon. I paid 9 bucks for the necklace, the one on her wishlist was around 350 if I remember. I put the necklace in a nice box (it came in a small zip-loc baggie). Gave it to her and of course she didn't know any better. She thought it was thoughtful and that I had spent big, she happily gave up backdoor access that night. It cost me 9 bucks, free shipping, LOL.

When used wisely, wishlists are great. I actually prefer profiles with them due to the intel you can get from them and the benefits when done right.

Most of these women don't know how to shop for value -- hence them being on this site. Plus, you'd be surprised how cheap some things really are or how inexpensive their tastes really are. I've had them make amazon wish lists, and they pick out dresses and shoes under $50.

[Member #6575]

She was in Richmond area from June through September. DM if you saw her to trade important info.

You have asked the same question in 6 places the last week. - also posting as DyerMan.

Louisville KY.

Greensboro NC.

Richmond, VA.

Charlotte NC.

Columbia NC.

Charleston SC.

You are a non SM that claims to have had a broken marriage in Dec last year. Why the sudden interest to find this girl? You even PMed me about her.

Is she your ex and you are after creating trouble for her?

This board is not for such a use. Please stop.

SA.

[Member #6575]

Tip: if you have to go to these lengths to confirm that your girl was selling herself? Time to let go and move on.

And same guy is posting and sending PMs from DyerMan -- he needs to stop chasing the girl all over VA / SC / NC!