"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Grafenberg]

So there has been, from time to time discussion on this thread about being anonymous and avoiding tracking. Apparently even using a VPN isn't the end all as there is a "fingerprinting" technique that uses OS version, screen size and other pertinent data that normally gets sent to websites, data that can be used to ID your computer even if it isn't through the IP address.

So now I see a service offered by the CCleaner folds call Kamo that apparently spoofs that data each time and thus makes you untrackable through "fingerprinting" techniques. So thought I'd toss this out there and ask if anyone has any experience with this? Does it work?

I think the juice would have to be worth the squeeze, for law enforcement, and they don't need that. LE will have you at a hotel paying a prostitute. I'm sure the defense that she's not a "professional" will sway the State's attorney.

[GolfMan57]

Definitely real. Came by last night. Sheesh.

Is this the one you are talking about? What was damage. She quoted 500 for me.

https://www.seeking.com/member/25fd4...1-59134aac5f4b

[Shampoo55]

So there has been, from time to time discussion on this thread about being anonymous and avoiding tracking. Apparently even using a VPN isn't the end all as there is a "fingerprinting" technique that uses OS version, screen size and other pertinent data that normally gets sent to websites, data that can be used to ID your computer even if it isn't through the IP address.

So now I see a service offered by the CCleaner folds call Kamo that apparently spoofs that data each time and thus makes you untrackable through "fingerprinting" techniques. So thought I'd toss this out there and ask if anyone has any experience with this? Does it work?

[RazorGator22]

If this is who I think it is, she is definitely real. Saw her several times a couple years ago and she was great back then. From the pictures, looks just as good as ever.

Definitely real. Came by last night. Sheesh.

[RazorGator22]

Yellowbird on SA. Met her once for an impromptu M&G. I just ran out of time to seal the deal. Seems sweet and DTF, although not nearly as cute as some of her pics. Debating if the juice is worth the squeeze as she says her previous arrangement was semi platonic and he left her 5 each meet. Playful and sarcastic texter though. Anyone know if I should follow through?

I met her. 4 for first meet, we played. She was decent. Second meet she was definitely on something. Drooling, slurring her words, getting mad for no reason. She has these weird skin marks on her body. Second meet was 3. After that one I said it's not going to work and ended communication.

[Member #6575]

If this is who I think it is, she is definitely real. Saw her several times a couple years ago and she was great back then. From the pictures, looks just as good as ever.

Chatted briefly on seeking a month ago -- could never get her off to TXT and I wrote her off as a scammer. Interested if anybody has digits?

SA.

[TakesALicking]

She said her previous SD was "older" and never really wanted the FS, although she was willing.

I'm guessing she doesn't expect 100% of dates to end up in a hotel room so it feels more like dating.

I met a total hottie on here who didn't last long. Met an MD 2 x her age who took her out to dinner one weekend, then on his boat the next, didn't even try to get her naked till 3rd date. Gaver her $400 each time regardless of how the time was spent. I guess he makes up for it when they do a full weekend with am / pm / midnight repeat sex, but too slow a burn and time investment for me!

[LosCaballeros]

That is one purpose, and that's fine, now people know about her but very few on this thread would ever let that happen to them anyway because they know what they're doing.

Another purpose of this particular thread is explain to people the proper way to sugar date. She didn't break any of SA's rules and she's not going to get banned, but go look at the FAQ below, because you broke every rule in the book. You asked her to rip you off. Even if you're going to take her shopping, why would you let her keep the bags until after? Anyway, what she did was predictable, you should learn your lesson from it and move on. And spend some time reading the FAQ.

Give me a break, dude. At least five people have been scammed by her.

No need for the sermon.

I agree that we should all move on.

[Raheem]

I know this girl IRL, she's recently sober and off the streets. I picked her up about a year ago off Midlo because I felt bad for her. SM shows she's married now to a guy covered in tats, including on his face. Just be wary if you're talking to her. Sober she's more like STG escort quality than sugar baby. Since I do know her I'd be interested if any of you are hitting it.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4d751...1-5615c91e6031

Also, WTF is up with seeking limiting non paying members to a 5 pic request max now? That's often how I determine when I want to pay by what I see in the private pics. The owner thinks he's milking it but really he is dumping on his site.

I was put in contact with her by a friend of mine. Today Stephanie is doing $100 short visits at a motel in Petersburg. So yes stg quality.

[ErkTheOne]

https://www.seeking.com/member/25fd4...1-59134aac5f4b damn, but TGTBT?

If this is who I think it is, she is definitely real. Saw her several times a couple years ago and she was great back then. From the pictures, looks just as good as ever.

[TomDickNHarry]

IMHO, the purpose of this board is to report on good and especially bad experiences for awareness. Gabby clearly has disingenuous intentions and was able to pull off the same con on others and people should be informed.

That is one purpose, and that's fine, now people know about her but very few on this thread would ever let that happen to them anyway because they know what they're doing.

Another purpose of this particular thread is explain to people the proper way to sugar date. She didn't break any of SA's rules and she's not going to get banned, but go look at the FAQ below, because you broke every rule in the book. You asked her to rip you off. Even if you're going to take her shopping, why would you let her keep the bags until after? Anyway, what she did was predictable, you should learn your lesson from it and move on. And spend some time reading the FAQ.

[Virginia69]

Hey guys new to the area and was excited to see this chat room here. I've been in the area for about two weeks now and have messaged with several. Here's some notes from my convos.

-Lorafayr https://www.seeking.com/member/95695...c-504b1223e8fa.

Pretty hot, messaged back and forth but wants 1400/ wk so I passed.

-Molly4600 https://www.seeking.com/member/dd4aa...8-72eaae1b5902.

Chatted with her for a bit and ended up moving to text. Told me she's never been with a guy as she previously dated a girl. Didn't seem like she was dtf, only interested in platonic so I passed.

-Jesse https://www.seeking.com/member/7f337...f-e9198b7a438d.

Got her snap and she was only interested in selling pics so cut off conversation.

-Shylasugar https://www.seeking.com/member/e9d4c...6-10dab85697e7.

Cute girl and super cool. She has a kid but can usually host down around Manchester. 300 but she's fun.

-Fun loving sweetheart https://www.seeking.com/member/54a37...c-6993fe83d58e.

Attractive pics, moved conversation over to snap. She's asking 500 but seems dtf, out schedules haven't aligned or I would've already met her.

-stay true https://www.seeking.com/member/d56b3...6-16da27cbd7cb.

Got her snap and she wants 500. Her snap story had some guy that seemed like her bf, think I'm going to pass on this but she seems attractive.

Any info on these?

-fungirl https://www.seeking.com/member/52915...4-d3fb08361950.

Very attractive pics, messages a bit then haven't heard from her in few days.

-babydoll1801 https://www.seeking.com/member/6603a...0-642489bc5111.

Chatted with her some on site but haven't heard back in few days.

-fungirlie https://www.seeking.com/member/2a340...e-2ef5687b8fce.

Messages her but haven't heard back.

-Victoria https://www.seeking.com/member/c8e47...5-3edc3f1b60ce.

Cute looking girl.

Met with two so far: Gabster & Cherry? Older lady but attractive, she charged 350 for drinks and play. Was worth it I think, she was attractive and knew what she wanted.

[ThatSexyGuy]

The one thing I have learned the hard way in the hobby is that things change with time. When one approach no longer works, I found I need to switch gears and try something else. It is a pain, because a great approach eventually stops working and then I have to work and try different approaches to see what works now.

That said, have had many girls tell me 'thank you' for writing something and reading their profile. (get plenty of crickets too!) They report they get a BUNCH of messages that just say "Hey!" or short non-descript openings. Oh I have seen that too. With nothing in a girls profile, I don't care how hot her pics, I have nothing to work with. I try to connect with something in her profile that matches my style or interest and open with that. I guess I want to distinguish myself from the guys who just say "hey!" Hopefully I can get her attention and thus her desire to check out my profile. But hey, if one leads with 'check out my profile" then the only sales tool for a first impression is the profile and I guess it better be a darn good one that stands head & shoulders above the competition?

So a few observations that work for me, everyone is different and I suspect guys here could contribute to the "how to" better than I have done.

I've had tons of women contact me. But none I would consider worth $140+ or more for a SA. I always send that response to get them to check out my profile so they can see my pictures and read a detailed page of what I expect. I typically get older women ages 24-30 but I be really wanting chicks like the 18 year old black girl I caught off the site. Tight V-sleeve and she could deepthroat my entire 9 inches. Not only that but she is inexperienced in the bedroom. LOL this past Sat she never experienced more than guys in her high school fucking her in doggystyle and missionary. Well, I had to put the entire 31 years of experience I have on her and I got her addicted. Not to mention she's low key not a money hungry vampire. Of course, I don't mind giving her cash whenever she needs it. To me she's at least a 8 in the face and a 10 in the body.

Now whenever I try to obtain Asians or white women I have no success. They're very flaky and if you get one they know the game for real. I would rather get younger 18-20 then to deal with older to much of a headache and this 18 year old proves it.

[BobLobLa]

https://www.seeking.com/member/25fd4...1-59134aac5f4b damn, but TGTBT?

Intersting MILF - https://www.seeking.com/member/fd77f...2-ca4a2c787b23.

Did she really list 30 as her upper age range? https://www.seeking.com/member/f756e...e-9bddea51a272 She got all freaky on me and thought I was stalking when I asked some questions -- all you have to do is enlarger her photo to see her sash is from UVA graduation! NOt exactly sherlock holmes technique.

https://www.seeking.com/member/dd4aa...8-72eaae1b5902 -- says she is from Spain and at W&M.

Another one with young top age range. https://www.seeking.com/member/852f0...e-21cc17684807.

Now 0 for 5 on SA Pageant Queens. Guess GPS is part of their training -- https://www.seeking.com/member/27f61...a-1b98894fd3af.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2617d...e-01e64b094863 hot pics, but not very communicative.

https://www.seeking.com/member/c7818...e-0585f4e9e32e -- promising start, but has gone cold on the comms.

[BobLobLa]

Also, what is "semi platonic".

I'm guessing she doesn't expect 100% of dates to end up in a hotel room so it feels more like dating.

I met a total hottie on here who didn't last long. Met an MD 2 x her age who took her out to dinner one weekend, then on his boat the next, didn't even try to get her naked till 3rd date. Gaver her $400 each time regardless of how the time was spent. I guess he makes up for it when they do a full weekend with am / pm / midnight repeat sex, but too slow a burn and time investment for me!