"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[Rouleur]

,bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.

I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.

Sincerely hope the relationship works out for you. I don't know how old the child is but you have a chance to have a significant impact on the young one. Having her Family be positive about the relationship certainly doesn't hurt either. I hope you will let us know how the relationship progresses as time goes on. Again best wishes.

[DirtyDeeds38]

,bad idea? Perhaps, but I'm enjoying the ride. My first true and real SB has now turned into a thing. She's 21, with one kid from Virginia, girl next door type. 7 body, face a solid 8, sex is moving up into the high 9 range. The girl is truly madly in love with me and I've decided, hey, I'm 44 years old, how many chances does a guy my age truly get to have a 21 year old so in love with you, she changes her life and wants to spend it with me? So why not. I've met her entire family and they all approve so far and even told her, I was a catch. True, this does not really fit into the mold of things here, but we only live this life once and I don't see another chance to engage in this level of a relationship with someone so fresh, appealing, sexy, and all that again.

I am as skeptical as they come, having been burned more then once by a nice ass and pretty face, but I have tested this girl and she is legit madly in love with me. So for a while at least, my SB dating will slow to a crawl. I've been telling myself this can't really be happening, even reading articles on other couples of such opposite age extremes and finding it does happen and on occasion does work.

[HollywoodGuy]

Hollywood. At least you are consistent. Everyone of your girls look the same. Hot, hot, and hot!

18-24. AA or mixed. Slender with A or B cups preferred. Totally shaved that day. Pretty feet are a plus. And must know how to kiss or be willing to learn. Its like natural viagra.

[FredMoore]

Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.

Hollywood. At least you are consistent. Everyone of your girls look the same. Hot, hot, and hot!

[FredMoore]

Pussy Means Stress (PMS).

None of us are immune. Rich or poor, it's all the same. Look at Donald Sterling. All the money in the world and this skank outs him to the world. That girl had best watch her back. I guess 2 Ferraris and a $1 Mil apartment aren't enough. A woman scorned (his wife) precipitated that little toss up it seems. Sheesh! What is a guy to do?

So Hollywood has got it right it seems. Serial date the good ones, discard them when the emotional / financial cost gets too high, and still have your life to yourself. Sometimes it's nice just to go home to peace and quiet, kick back, watch TV, or read a good book. On the other hand prospecting for the next hottest girl is always a load of fun.

Pot # 1 converted to SB #2.

She is a cute, fiery 20 something yr old 8/6. 5/8/8 She is inexperienced and naive but will be fun training up.

SB # 1 has fallen off the grid. She owes me so she knows she isn't going to make much coming over for a quickie. Like all of them, she can't look long term enough to see that 1) she gets a heck of a good fucking with multiple Os and 2) there is a full payday after she works off the debt in a month or so. Who knows? I will keep her in the loop if she doesn't totally flake out.

POT # 3.

I am most excited about. We have had scheduling problems but she is a 9/9/9/? I hope I can get her converted to an SB soon.

[HollywoodGuy]

I am doing one M and G a week so far this year. I have taken a different approach than in prior years. I am not just going for the low hanging fruit. (UTR's, Pro's, and down on their luck girls). I have really tried to target the "good girls" with a naughty side, that need their daddy to be complete (at least in the FC). This nurse with a bangin bod ( 5'2" and 103 ) replied to my intro letter as follows "Thanks for your message. I love that it was straight to the point. No room for questions. I actually like your arrangement, it seems safe, and easy".

Easy, as in no promise from her, of more than the happy ending of her choice. If it doesn't go to intercourse on the first date, no problem, but if there is no guarantee of that on the second date, then there won't be one. The usual $ offer. I have started to just hit up anyone, even the obvious GPS girls, because you never know, right?

Of course a first date could be just a M and G with no compensation and half of the ones I have had this year were exactly that. So the quantity of my sex life has dropped off a bit but the quality has gone up.

[JZLizard]

Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.

It's true. If I only had a dollar for every migraine I've endured in pursuit of pussy, I could live like Hugh Hefner or Donald Sterling. Hey, wait a minute, those guys still have a constant stream of female-related headaches don't they? I guess it never really ends.

[HollywoodGuy]

Marriage doesn't really have to be like that though. My ex-wife help put me through college. My current girlfriend pays part of my mortgage payment. Divorce and even break up sucks whether there is money involved or not though, that's one thing less to deal with, but in terms of money drain civy dating is nothing like my SB habit. Now sometimes you run into impromptu situations that cost more than you want, for example meeting a potential one night stand in a club that's an hour or so away from home, it's not hard to spend $50 on drinks to loosen her up and another $100 on a room just to be sure she doesn't get away. When that happens you end up shaking your head as you drive home wondering how free pussy ended up being so expensive.

Pussy is never free. You are always going to pay financially or emotionally.

[JZLizard]

She is off the site a long time ago. And once I did have a profile removed from SD4 M. I am not going to report her as I didn't lose any money. I am just glad to be rid of her. In the SD world you are going to get burned from time to time. It's still far less than being married. Plus you can just boot the girl and move on to the next one. No messy court cases to deal with. The crazy thing with all these girls, at least in my case is, that i am generous and consistent. So in the end they would get the money anyway.

Marriage doesn't really have to be like that though. My ex-wife help put me through college. My current girlfriend pays part of my mortgage payment. Divorce and even break up sucks whether there is money involved or not though, that's one thing less to deal with, but in terms of money drain civy dating is nothing like my SB habit. Now sometimes you run into impromptu situations that cost more than you want, for example meeting a potential one night stand in a club that's an hour or so away from home, it's not hard to spend $50 on drinks to loosen her up and another $100 on a room just to be sure she doesn't get away. When that happens you end up shaking your head as you drive home wondering how free pussy ended up being so expensive.

[Rouleur]

It's still far less than being married.

I could not agree more. I am still amazed that my cheating Ex came out on top in our divorce and the size of the check I write each month so she can take it in the ass by her loser boyfriend. But when I look back on what she spent while married. Holy fkng sht!

[HollywoodGuy]

It would be hard to do here without breaking forum rules, but a lot of the SD sites have a way to report problems with a member. I've never done it, so I don't know to what extent they take reports seriously, but I would think they are inclined to believe a paying (credit card wielding) SD's word over a nutty SB's word.

She is off the site a long time ago. And once I did have a profile removed from SD4 M. I am not going to report her as I didn't lose any money. I am just glad to be rid of her. In the SD world you are going to get burned from time to time. It's still far less than being married. Plus you can just boot the girl and move on to the next one. No messy court cases to deal with. The crazy thing with all these girls, at least in my case is, that i am generous and consistent. So in the end they would get the money anyway.

A funny story. I was long time ago I was dating an SB whose sister was dating a very famous actor and while they were together she had a kid. He started paying 20k a month in child support. 15 years later she says she needs more cuz the kid has to have the best of everything. The guy goes to his lawyer and says, what should he do. The lawyer says, by the way did you ever get a paternity test?. The guy says no. He gets one and its not his kid. He then cuts her off completely. Unchecked greed is most times a short lived experience. Integrity pays off for a lifetime.

[JZLizard]

Well, that is good. How do we share such info. About fraud SBs. Is there a place where we can log it or share it within SD. I have seen few who could qualify as fake SBs who want to steal something from you. ! LOL. I know they are looking for sugar but these are babies who are fraud. Who want to harm us. !

It would be hard to do here without breaking forum rules, but a lot of the SD sites have a way to report problems with a member. I've never done it, so I don't know to what extent they take reports seriously, but I would think they are inclined to believe a paying (credit card wielding) SD's word over a nutty SB's word.

[JZLizard]

Obviously she is gone for good now. The bank said if I waited one more day I would have had to make a police report, so she got off easy. The money was never technically stolen, just attempted to. Also it wasnt payment for sex, she used to hang out here from time to time anyway just to waste my time. Thats why the sugar daddy sites can never get shut down for soliciting like myredbook did.

I offered to pay her 1 k a month to live with her one week out of the month. I guess that wasnt enough. We never even started an arrangement, but I was trying to.

Oh ok. In that case I would press charges, no questions asked. Just because her forgery did not result in a successful cash payout, she is still guilty of forgery and stealing something that belonged to you from your place of residence, so that's at least two dings on her rap sheet right there.

But I really like the idea of leaving the signed checks for the invalid account laying around with the amount not yet written in. Not to be used as bait on her, since she won't be invited anymore obviously, but simply as a way to test future SBs on whether you can trust them or not, keep track of the check numbers that are in the bait book so you will know when one is gone. Then as a bonus if they turn out to be a thief you get the satisfaction of knowing they tried to cash it only to get their hopes up then let down.

[HollywoodGuy]

Report her to the site you met her on (not that it will stop her completely, but it might inconvenience her at least to the extent you were inconvenienced). I would say press charges, but in this hobby I'm reluctant to recommend that. If she is stupid enough to show cops evidence of a promise for a money / sex transaction they could put charges on you too. There was a recent thread in I think the Ohio forums of exactly that happening, although in that case the SD was an off duty cop.

Also keep your old checks with the now invalid account laying in a conspicuous place as bait for future thief-babies. Maybe even pre-sign a couple of them and leave them blank.. hehe.. it will keep her from foraging around through other things and she'll think she hit paydirt

Obviously she is gone for good now. The bank said if I waited one more day I would have had to make a police report, so she got off easy. The money was never technically stolen, just attempted to. Also it wasnt payment for sex, she used to hang out here from time to time anyway just to waste my time. Thats why the sugar daddy sites can never get shut down for soliciting like myredbook did.

I offered to pay her 1 k a month to live with her one week out of the month. I guess that wasnt enough. We never even started an arrangement, but I was trying to.

[GeorgeRichmond]

Report her to the site you met her on (not that it will stop her completely, but it might inconvenience her at least to the extent you were inconvenienced). I would say press charges, but in this hobby I'm reluctant to recommend that. If she is stupid enough to show cops evidence of a promise for a money / sex transaction they could put charges on you too. There was a recent thread in I think the Ohio forums of exactly that happening, although in that case the SD was an off duty cop.

Also keep your old checks with the now invalid account laying in a conspicuous place as bait for future thief-babies. Maybe even pre-sign a couple of them and leave them blank.. hehe.. it will keep her from foraging around through other things and she'll think she hit paydirt

Well, that is good. How do we share such info. About fraud SBs. Is there a place where we can log it or share it within SD. I have seen few who could qualify as fake SBs who want to steal something from you. ! LOL. I know they are looking for sugar but these are babies who are fraud. Who want to harm us. !