"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[JZLizard]

I doubt the SA app itself would seek to retrieve that from your phone, but I'm pretty sure they would already have it from paying for a membership via credit card (unless there are alternatives I'm unaware of).

I always use an untraceable "gift card" visa. Pay cash for it. Your name is never associated with the account.

Good to know. I haven't used those gift cards much, many of the ones I've seen require you to register the card before using it (tying your name to it), because most web sites will validate the name of the card owner against the card number and even phone number (so without that association, buying options would be limited).

But, I guess you're saying SA lets you put in a CC and no name? It would be good business for them so it makes sense if so.

[CaneBay]

I doubt the SA app itself would seek to retrieve that from your phone, but I'm pretty sure they would already have it from paying for a membership via credit card (unless there are alternatives I'm unaware of).

I always use an untraceable "gift card" visa. Pay cash for it. Your name is never associated with the account.

[JZLizard]

Actually do not want SA to have my personal info -phone number etc. I am in the category who cannot have any personally identifying information floating around even if it is secured.

I doubt the SA app itself would seek to retrieve that from your phone, but I'm pretty sure they would already have it from paying for a membership via credit card (unless there are alternatives I'm unaware of). I'm in the category of wanting a certain amount privacy, but not so much that I worry about anonymizing payment. In theory, someone could hack into their website and potentially publicly post names of members, but I can't think of too many reason hackers would want to do that. Maybe if SA were involved in some controversial news case and one of the hacker activist groups did not like how things were handled and decided to set out to hurt their business by exposing their customers or something like that, but it seems very unlikely. My GF knows I've been a member of so many dating sites that I'd have trouble remembering them all anyway, so if she did find out I had an SA account it wouldn't mean much in the big scheme of things. Others might have more explaining to do than I would though.

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The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

[Underloved Guy]

Just saw this ad in SA from a 18 year old in NC:

"Well, I am going to be 100% honest and play no games. I am looking for a rich man to take care of me, spoil me and buy me any and everything I want. No exceptions, no bitching, no moaning etc. You give me what I want and you'll get what you want. I want a man whose income level exceeds $500,000 a year. I don't play games. I don't fool around. I don't want an old man either. I want a man who is within the age range of 20-45 and no older. You must be in great shape. I don't want some fat, old guy sweating all over me. I may be willing to make an exception if you look good and are in really good shape. ".

Some of these girls do not have clue. Maybe 1/10 of the top 1% earned that? She must have got a F in math.

[PghGuy2005]

The issues I was speaking of did not entail the SA app itself being malware, it was a general statement about Android apps and the general security issues around them. Of course, SA is not going to intentionally put malware in their app, but all it takes is one accidental misstep from the developer of the app and the door is open for other apps from non-reputable sources to do things with data from the SA app you may not want. The situation at Apple is locked down much better, that's all I meant.

Actually do not want SA to have my personal info -phone number etc. I am in the category who cannot have any personally identifying information floating around even if it is secured.

[HollywoodGuy]

They were asking for $800 per meet. Where do they get that from? $800 goes a long way! If they can get it, they should hang on to it. Why do they need to talk to me. Total BS.

The "settlement" was $300. I apologized that we were so far apart and wished them well. One ultimately agree to $150, the other $200 which I know is high HWG standards. LOL.

Depends on the quality. I am actually going to raise my offer to some teen super hotties, 9's and 10's only as I am tired of losing them. They would have to be close to perfect looking by my standards. I may only get one or two bites at the apple. But I deserve a treat now and then. I will report if and when it happens.

[Madaboutmax]

They were asking for $800 per meet. Where do they get that from? $800 goes a long way! If they can get it, they should hang on to it. Why do they need to talk to me. Total BS.

The "settlement" was $300. I apologized that we were so far apart and wished them well. One ultimately agree to $150, the other $200 which I know is high HWG standards. LOL.

800 per date? Per month? Curious to know what you finally settle on.

[HollywoodGuy]

I've had several interesting exchanges recently with girls about allowance. In each case, after a trip the FC, we discussed allowance. The starting point in each case was $800!! I worked hard to remain polite and respectful. Let them know that was above my budget and nothing I could support on a long term basis. We negotiated a "settlement" for the first time meeting and parted ways.

Two of the girls have come back. Saying they really enjoyed the time with me and would work with me on something we could both accept.

I'm glad I stayed composed and respectful. It has ultimately paid off. It was so tempting to tell them off, but that would have served no purpose. GPS is something that they need to cure themselves.

800 per date? Per month? Curious to know what you finally settle on.

[Madaboutmax]

I've had several interesting exchanges recently with girls about allowance. In each case, after a trip the FC, we discussed allowance. The starting point in each case was $800!! I worked hard to remain polite and respectful. Let them know that was above my budget and nothing I could support on a long term basis. We negotiated a "settlement" for the first time meeting and parted ways.

Two of the girls have come back. Saying they really enjoyed the time with me and would work with me on something we could both accept.

I'm glad I stayed composed and respectful. It has ultimately paid off. It was so tempting to tell them off, but that would have served no purpose. GPS is something that they need to cure themselves.

[JZLizard]

Here is the SA blog thread that let to this recent "attention" on our thread here:

https://www.seekingarrangement.com/b...go-translated/#comments.

What I would suggest, particularly to married SDs or those with a heightened interest in privacy retention, is to simply be careful about "oversharing" information about girls you meet and your interactions with them. It probably goes without saying, but don't share things related to this forum with girls either, no matter how much you like or trust them.

The Internet and "social media" of all forms makes it all too easy to track people down and do something that adversely affects their lives. What usually happens is a thread like this starts out with kind of an underground following, but before long has a much wider audience than would appear by the number of folks posting. There is a temptation to rely on "well we haven't had any problems so far, so there's no reason to believe we will". That almost never lasts. The audience grows exponentially but silently over time and the perfect storm brews all the while.

So, here are my suggestions to anyone who cares to remain anonymous:

1. Avoid posting too much info about girls. If you're reflecting on your adventures or are seeking advice on a situation, edit your post to change their age, change their circumstance, change their city, change their hair color or cup size or whatever.

2. Don't use same or similar name here that you use on other sites / forums or for email addresses.

3. Don't post pics. Of anything. Pics of them you took, pics of them they sent you, pics of yourself, places you've been, etc. That makes it dead easy for them to identify you.

4. Don't assume because she's not a computer whiz she is incapable of tracking you down. There's a high probability that she is fucking a computer whiz who can track you in a matter of minutes, and all she has to do is blow him to get your info.

5. More is not merrier. I do not recommend any sort of collusion or cooperation between brothers (swapping girls phone numbers and such). Even if you trust the folks you are interacting with, you cannot know much less trust everyone they interact with, and in the days of the Internet that alone creates risk. If a girl knows another guy and that guy knows something about your real identity, she may as well have a map to your front door.

6. Don't do anything illegal, and if you do, don't post about it. It is absolutely possible to be an SD and get tons of poon without breaking any laws.

7. Try to think carefully about any information you're posting that makes you or your situation unique and identifiable (I. E. Your job, your habits, etc.). Again, the best way to avoid being a target is to keep moving. Change some story details intentionally (see #1 above) when you post in order to throw someone who may know you off track -- something that has no real significance when read by another brother, but would almost certainly throw off one of your SBs if she reads it.

An example of #7: You take a 23 year old blonde VCU student to Starbucks, then you proceed to the FC. Modify the details: make her 22 or 24 years old, remove the reference to specific school, and just say for lunch instead of Starbucks or coffee. Simple things like that.

If you're in a position to simply not care at all about privacy, then feel free to disregard -- just know that there may come a day when one of these girls creates a website in your dishonor, such that when someone Google's your name, that website will be the first to appear in the search results. Be sure you've carefully thought through what that would mean to your professional and personal life before discounting the value of privacy altogether.

[JZLizard]

Could use some advice on this one.

Been chatting via text with a potential. She's probably about a 7 or 8. Interaction has been decent, nothing spectacular. I invite her to meet up this coming week and she replied back "I would love to meet up, however my twin sister will be coming with me. We are identical. It makes me nervous meeting people from online".

How should I play this?

Mmmm. Twins.

Sound like pros or UTR girls to me. A true SB wouldn't involve a friend much less her sister (twin or otherwise) right off the bat.

The only reason this matters is that if she is a pro, it means her reason for bringing the twin as stated is complete BS. I doubt she is too nervous or shy to meet, and if she is that can be overcome by meeting in a public place. Otherwise, who knows what her next excuse will be, "I'm nervous about taking off my panties for someone I just met, maybe next time we meet when my sis is here"?

Best case scenario, sounds like an upsell opportunity for them. If they are pros, even if hiring twins appeals to you, I doubt you will get two girls for the price of one.

I've heard of at least 2 cases of twin sisters working together like this in the past. In both cases all four girls were hardcore junkies.

If you're the adventurous sort, you might want to check it out anyway just to be sure you don't come away wondering what might have been, just be aware of the realities going in.

My own rule is I meet the girl alone or not at all, but that's just me.

[YouAre Scum]

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[HollywoodGuy]

Could use some advice on this one.

Been chatting via text with a potential. She's probably about a 7 or 8. Interaction has been decent, nothing spectacular. I invite her to meet up this coming week and she replied back "I would love to meet up, however my twin sister will be coming with me. We are identical. It makes me nervous meeting people from online".

How should I play this?

Mmmm. Twins.

Never tried any two girl action off the SD site. But experienced mongers usually say its a bad idea. I won't meet any girl that wants to bring a friend. Not my thing anyway. But if its yours meet them at a starbucks. And don't go anywhere with both at the same time until you"ve banged at least one of them first..