"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[LoriTruck]

If she really is that hot, I would agree that she would be hard to pass on if she resurfaces on her own. If you back off, the odds she returms on her own go way up.

If she does resurface, the smart thing to do would be to pass, but we all know when it comes to pussy we don't always do the smart thing! LOL. Honestly, if she came back on her own I would probably make another run at her, but with extreme caution.

Best of luck!

So just a quick update on the sugar plum. I washed my hands with her as many advised me to and let her be / gave her her space. No food, no baked cakes, cookies you name it. No money advanced nada. She resurfaced, has a new number and is inviting me to the same show that ended with her spending the night at my place roughly 2 months ago.

[Dangerb]

I have been a member off and on for years, always paying full price except for once when they offered a Halloween discount if I remember correctly. I have read on occasion about a weekly rate offered by SA. I have never seen this on the site or on the app. When I downloaded the app last week, the current monthly rate of $89 was the only option other than the 3 month option. So is there a weekly rate option and if so, where do I find it? Thanks.

[Truncated]

OK, OK, I am not about to die, as far as I know, but I am about to kill off my avatar, I mean my profile, on SA. I have been on SA for eight months and have messaged and texted with lots of girls and feel I can refine my approach. Rather than just editing my profile, I intend to let it go inactive when the next renewal comes up, then register a new profile with some differences. Among other things, I plan to put some type of photo in my profile because I think a lot of girls wouldn't consider me without any photos up. This way I will get another crack at some of the hotties who have blocked me or ignored me under my present profile.

I expect I am not the first monger to do this. I am wondering if you guys have any tips or things you wish you had done differently when creating a new profile. I intend to make a list of some of the "ones that got away" so I can look for them under my new profile. Anything else I should be doing?

Many of these girls network with each other. They use your name and / or number to chat about you.

If you plan to start a new profile, make sure you use a different name when you contact them, and a new burner #. Otherwise, they can pick up on it being you with a new profile.

Also, completely delete the old profile from SA. Don't just disable it.

Look around on Google Images for a pic of someone who looks like you. Use that. Blur it a little or block out the eyes so it can't be reverse image searched on Google, and also so the girls can't be sure it's not you when you meet them.

There's no way in hell I would ever post a pic of myself on that site.

If you've met a lot of the local girls, be prepared to be sitting across from one of them and having that OH FUCK moment when you realize you met her in the past. That happened to me when I made a new profile. I had a meet and greet with a girl I met two years earlier.

[DogBert77]

OK, OK, I am not about to die, as far as I know, but I am about to kill off my avatar, I mean my profile, on SA. I have been on SA for eight months and have messaged and texted with lots of girls and feel I can refine my approach. Rather than just editing my profile, I intend to let it go inactive when the next renewal comes up, then register a new profile with some differences. Among other things, I plan to put some type of photo in my profile because I think a lot of girls wouldn't consider me without any photos up. This way I will get another crack at some of the hotties who have blocked me or ignored me under my present profile.

I expect I am not the first monger to do this. I am wondering if you guys have any tips or things you wish you had done differently when creating a new profile. I intend to make a list of some of the "ones that got away" so I can look for them under my new profile. Anything else I should be doing?

[PeteMc]

This is a really interesting perspective Pete, thanks. I have met plenty of young girls who are totally into coffee, so its not completely a generational thing. Obviously not all of them are and I can see the breath thing being a hurdle for those who aren't. I am going to try a bit harder with the non-coffee crowd, at least if they are good-looking enough, and stop just assuming that they are being bitchy or stupid. Maybe my closure rate will go up a couple percent.

I'm sure it's nothing to change your routine over; I don't think its generational either. Millennial were and maybe still are the biggest coffee generation, though the typical millennial girl now is mid-late 20's. I'm mostly hearing about the coffee aversion from the 18-24 crowd. In the last couple of years there were a number of highly publicized (dramatized) coffee health scares. Every now and then I'm sure a high school senior studying current events decides to make "coffee is evil" the theme of her magnum-opus senior project and it has a formative effect on her future (LOL). The only real trend I see is that it's more polarized than it used to be, same as smoking. There was a time where smoker vs non-smoker was merely a preference, but the stigma tightened its grip over time and there are girls that smoke and also girls who won't go near people who smoke, both coexisting in the same age demographic.

[JustLonely]

She dumped her profile and is now on as FabulousKiki. Probably with same story about power being cut off.

https://www.seeking.com/member/42aec...8-47dfa7aca970

[JustLonely]

There are some things that the less intelligent SB's do that drive me up the wall. I expect other guys have their own list, but here are a couple of mine:

1. I message my burner phone number to SB on SA site. Get text that says: "Hi, it's Samantha" when her user name didn't have Samantha in it or anything to do with Samantha. Even worse, they text me and just say "Hi" and don't say anything about who they are. Sometimes long after I messaged them. These girls are always telling us about how many messages they get. Do they think we are only messaging one girl at a time, say one a week?

I left my phone number with four or five women who hadn't bothered to open my previous messages when my account was expiring. Two months later I get a text from one saying "I just saw your message and are you still interested in meetng?" No name and I didn't have her number first so I have no clue who it is. So asked who was this. She said Sara. Ok, now I've contacted more than a few SBs named Sara both fake and real names. So I am still lost. We texted about 10 minutes and I am hoping she would say something that would jog my memory. Finally she said lets meet at Panera. Fortunately I found the right one in my sent folder and gleaned enough info to be up to speed with her when we did meet a few hours later that day. Moral is archive your messages in case they ever show up again.

[BigOne73]

I have been reading my messages using the chrome trick, but this obviously works better. But you still cannot reply and most of these dunces are not smart enough to leave contact info even though it is in my profile. And most who do are PROS, not SB's.

The Chrome trick works for me every time.

[JustLonely]

Avoid this one in RVA as she will blow up your phone with tales of woe and wanting money but not in exchange for sex.

https://www.seeking.com/member/00bee...4-bc39546b09cf

She dumped her profile and is now on as FabulousKiki. Probably with same story about power being cut off.

[DogBert77]

There are a number of reasons people have started announcing their "coffee status" that may have nothing to do with her interest level. One is that for non-coffee drinkers, coming within a few feet of a coffee drinker's breath smells terrible, and kissing them on the mouth is even worse (no offense to coffee drinkers because I used to be one too, but its kind of like the sensitivity to smoke that non-smokers experience). So in some ways she may be sending signals about the preference of who she fucks. Coffee breath is not going to stop me from banging a hot young babe, but it might stop them from banging me. To a lot of younger girls the smell of coffee on a man's breath is a bit like the smell of Old Spice and Ben Gay (reminds them of their grandpa).

This is a really interesting perspective Pete, thanks. I have met plenty of young girls who are totally into coffee, so its not completely a generational thing. Obviously not all of them are and I can see the breath thing being a hurdle for those who aren't. I am going to try a bit harder with the non-coffee crowd, at least if they are good-looking enough, and stop just assuming that they are being bitchy or stupid. Maybe my closure rate will go up a couple percent.

[JustLonely]

But you still cannot reply and most of these dunces are not smart enough to leave contact info even though it is in my profile. And most who do are PROS, not SB's.

New non-paying members still have 10 free messages as long they don't include contact info. Or old ones who never sent any.

[Spiderrva]

I'd like to know more about the list? Is it on facebook, or instagram? Email?

To be honest, it sounds a little more organized than these ****** are capable of.

It's not word of mouth, everything they do is on social media. The List is a list, just like this one. An old SB started it a few years back when she found herself on here. It really took off after Fosta. SA not only got flooded by pros, but it got flooded by undesirable Backpage Johns and the girls banned together. Some of them will swear it doesn't exist and some of them will tell you little bits and pieces about it. I don't know that much about it. I only know the little bit that I know because someone told me I was on it.

[TomDickNHarry]

#2 often. For me it's if they're above 21 I say a drink, then some say "I don't drink. " Who gives a flying f*ck. Like the point of the meet is to discern your beverage choices, as if any place in town lacks water, soft drinks, juices or coffee.

But the "I want to get to know you first" and "What are you looking for" when it's spelled out in the profile are just the worst. It's like I really have to type this shit out again, can you read, why do we all have profiles? And sure, let's get to know each other via SA messages, that makes perfect sense! Me and the other 50 guys you're messaging with will all send you our horoscopes, favorite colors, movies and whether we prefer boxes or briefs! Then if you actually agree to meet (doubtful) with all that useless information you'll have forgotten and can ask us again in person.

But what has become prevalent in my local market, worse than all that BS, even worse than the stupid platonic profiles, are the online only profiles and gas money scams. The worst is that they work up to it, don't just lay it out there upfront so you can laugh at them and quickly move on like they used to. After exchanging messages, moving to text, and agreeing to meet, they drop it on you. They all have a tank on empty and literally not $1 in loose change she could use to get a half gallon of gas to drive 5 miles, and can't be picked up either! But cashapp something and she's on her way! Or buy a few photos until we can meet so she has gas or gets comfortable with you. As if.

Since it hasn't been mentioned much on this board, I'm guessing this scams haven't yet gone national. But I bet it will.

No exaggeration, five times this week after many texts, "Do you have cashapp?" GFY.

There are some things that the less intelligent SB's do that drive me up the wall. I expect other guys have their own list, but here are a couple of mine:

1. I message my burner phone number to SB on SA site. Get text that says: "Hi, it's Samantha" when her user name didn't have Samantha in it or anything to do with Samantha. Even worse, they text me and just say "Hi" and don't say anything about who they are. Sometimes long after I messaged them. These girls are always telling us about how many messages they get. Do they think we are only messaging one girl at a time, say one a week?

2. Text thread like this: DogBert: "Want to get a cup of coffee and see if there is chemistry?" SB "I don't drink coffee. " "Sometimes followed by "I only drink tea / kombucha / boba / Tears of Hindu Gods shed on Andean peaks under a full moon and collected by blind nuns. " What the actual fuck? Have they ever been in a Starbucks? Don't they know you can order other drinks in a coffee shop? If they don't want to meet up, why don't they just say so, or ghost me? Do I give fuck whether they like coffee? For the record, I do not, although I do care whether they like creamer.

In general, I've always tried to live by the principle that no good looking girl is too dumb to fuck once, but these girls are causing me to question that philosophy.

[Roxoff801]

Popped on SA this morning and saw that you can now read messages without having an upgraded account. Don't know if this is accidental (it probably is) so if you have any messages in your inbox you want to read but don't want to pay a benjamin to do so get on asap before they discover the glitch haha.

Yaya.

I have been reading my messages using the chrome trick, but this obviously works better. But you still cannot reply and most of these dunces are not smart enough to leave contact info even though it is in my profile. And most who do are PROS, not SB's.

[JustLonely]

Popped on SA this morning and saw that you can now read messages without having an upgraded account. Don't know if this is accidental (it probably is) so if you have any messages in your inbox you want to read but don't want to pay a benjamin to do so get on asap before they discover the glitch haha.

Yaya.

You are correct! I just read and replied to someone. But the number of unread messages hasn't changed on the notification bar.