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02-22-19 10:23 #16197
Posts: 95Op Sec, Hotels and Gift Cards
One other thing with respect to hotels to be aware of and consider. I have gotten Christmas cards and thank you notes from hotels in the Hilton family at the address on file after a stay. Luckily the cards and notes were for business related travel but it did cause me to change the address on file to my office.
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02-22-19 00:14 #16196
Posts: 131Op Sec, Hotels and Gift Cards
Hotels are definitely one of the biggest risks to operational security. I have gotten into the habit of reserving them in my real name, either through Dayuse.com or Hotels.com. When I check in, I show my driver's license and give them a Platinum American Express card. I tell them I will pay with cash, either on check or check out. Some of them place a hold on the credit card for the whole price of the room plus $50 for incidentals, others only do the $50 for incidentals. All of them accept cash for the room without issues, although sometimes they have to hunt around for change since no one uses cash anymore. The hold is always removed, sometimes immediately, sometimes it takes up to five days. Until it is removed, it shows as a "pending charge" on my account, then it disappears completely. While it is showing pending, it creates a security risk, but only I have online access to the account so this has not been a problem (yet).
Recently I stayed at a Hilton affiliate using the above procedure, at a hotel I had used before and it worked fine the previous time. This time, a few days after my stay, instead of clearing the pending charge on my account, they charged it. I think whoever did that immediately realized they screwed up, and tried again, which resulted in them charging it again. Then they gave me a credit in the same amount, again doing it twice. The net result is no charge, but a paper trail on the statement that is a flashing neon sign for the warden. I intercepted the paper statement before my wife saw it, and have changed my settings to paperless. But my wife has been in the habit of paying all our bills, as she is more reliable at doing this on time than I am. So this will be a change in process that may itself be a red flag.
The same sort of red flag can result if there is any charge that you don't clear at check out, like a move, music or wifi in the room. So using a credit card definitely carries risk.
I like the idea of paying with gift cards, and especially Ernest Li's suggestion for Hotels.com gift cards at 5% off. But I have a couple of issues I would like you guys' input on. (1) Gift cards seem inherently less secure than a credit card. Anyone who gets your number can basically drain it, and I am not sure how cooperative the issuer is going to be in giving you a chargeback. I have this problem on a OneVanilla card right now. I put $500 on it to use for SA, my burner phone, etc. I figured by putting $500 (the max) on it instead of $100 at a time, the fee percentage would be minimized. Well, someone somehow hacked it and charged a bogus $150 on it. I have started the refund request from OneVanilla, but they said it may take 60-90 days to process and I don't have a lot of confidence in it. (2) Some hotels have signs saying that if you use a debit card for the deposit, it may take much longer for the refund to be processed as compared to a credit card, again up to 60-90 days. I am curious as to other guys experience with this. (3) This is kind of hard to pin down, but I feel that when you are paying with cash the front desk immediately views you as sort of sketchy, and using a gift card for the deposit is only going to make that worse. When I use a solid credit card, I feel that it sort of smooths the whole transaction. Again, this is just feeling, and I can't really point to anything concrete.
Really interested in hearing others' experience with gift cards at hotels, and especially with using them for the deposit when paying with cash.
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02-21-19 11:56 #16195
Posts: 880SB Catnip
Originally Posted by BillCullen [View Original Post]
Don't take the girl to the comp wine hour each night from 5-6 -- don't want to appear cheap.
They also have pretty cool furniture for your creativity as well as well-placed mirrors. Make sure you visit the fitness center before she arrives and borrow the big bouncy ball-it's like having sex in a weightless environment which is great for preventing cramps, and joint pain from the strain of trying to give a young hottie all you are worth!
From a security standpoint, don't leave her alone in the room because your name will show up on the TV screen when you turn it on and the front desk is trained to answer the phone acknowledging you by name.
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02-20-19 20:27 #16194
Posts: 95Ihg & dc
Originally Posted by ChrisCarr [View Original Post]
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02-20-19 14:49 #16193
Posts: 251Ihg
Originally Posted by DoggieFan [View Original Post]
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02-20-19 13:41 #16192
Posts: 923Love Free Nights
Originally Posted by GuyInTheCorner [View Original Post]
My second most used chain is Hilton but it's a lot of points for a free room, often 30,000 vs 8,000 at a nice Comfort Suites vs say a Hampton Inn.
Surprisingly, I've been Sugaring lately with a new Baby in Roanoke and the Mainstay Suites is really nice. Two room suite with a king size bed, at end of hall, which is my preference. The only downside is a very chatty, nosy lady at the front desk on days.
No one has my log on for my accounts so no worries about privacy. If your trying to stay UTR with your bookings is pretty tough.
Most places I stay require an I'd & credit card. Any places that accept cash are nasty & I won't stay there.
Of my three current SBs one has her own place which is a big plus, but a four year old daughter that makes it tough to spend very much time there.
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02-20-19 07:48 #16191
Posts: 259I agree with most of the above. The only thing I will add is that if you travel a lot for work, and you don't plan on letting her stay overnight, it pays to pick a brand and stick with it.
- if you get high enough status you get free upgrades. Suites = more places to play.
- booking directly through the site and using its app allows easy check in and check out.
- you can use points if a room is otherwise prohibitively expensive (downtown and midweek).
- they usually have a wide range of hotel types across many price points depending on who you are trying to impress.
However you also need to keep in mind they will keep records of all those local stays on your profile so you need to lock that shit down. Or have a decent excuse if it is ever uncovered.
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02-18-19 13:39 #16190
Posts: 880My thoughts.
To give you some context, I'm a consultant to the hospitality industry and was a top level frequent guest at Hyatt and Starwood for years and 99% of my Sugar fun has been in hotels.
Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
NEVER leave a strange woman alone in a hotel room booked in your name. Don't give her the key to go up ahead of you. Too many hotels have video checkout, and just turning on the TV will reveal the name the room is registered to. Or she can call them at the front desk and they will greet her by the name the room is registered to. Or if you are traveling and meet someone on the road, chances are your luggage is in the room with a tag on it.
If some nervous clerk tries to make conversation and asks why are you staying at a hotel if you live in town, tell them you're having some plumbing work done, houses getting fumigated, you've moved away and are just back in town for a couple of days but haven't updated your driver's license. Lots of plausible reasons to deal with innocuous inquries / small talk. The clerks don't care if you're banging someone so long as it's legal.
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02-18-19 13:26 #16189
Posts: 880This is a Test of the EMERGENCY BS System.
Found this amusing post on the PHL forum.
Yesterday morning I woke up early and decided to hop on the site for a few hours. I sent out around 40 messages, no cut & paste, all unique. I got a few responses, four if my memory serves me correctly.
The responses are a game in and of themselves. Weeding out the scammers and spammers. It takes some due diligence, but in the end the hard work always pays off.
So far, I have completed my first several "steps":
1) Login and send messages to attractive girls 18-22.
2) Sit back and wait for the responses.
My first two responses tonight wanted me to send them money. These messages were probably sent by some Nigerian man. But the third response was the gem.
The third response came from a beautiful, 20 year old coed from LaSalle named Nicole. We text throughout the day.
Here is something else. I have all young ladies send me a copy of their drivers license. They can black out the address, but I want to see date of birth. I am not taking any risks with minors.
Nicole sent me her license after we had built a rapport. I agreed to pay her $300 for three hours of her companionship, with the promise that if things went well it would lead to more dates. She agreed to swallow, BBFS, no anal but I could finger her butthole.
Today (12 pm) I went to pick her up. My heart was racing. Nicole lives in college apartments near the LaSalle campus, which is in a pretty ghetto area.
When Nicole walked out I knew my trip had been worth it. Her pictures were all legit. 5'7, 110 lbs, perfect body and complexion. She has the cutest dimples, deep blue eyes and dirty blonde hair. She wore a demin dress with a green tube top.
We made small talk in the car on the way to the hotel. I got a suite at the Feathnest Inn, in Bensalem. I checked in before picking Nicole up so I could have porn on the tv and some flavored lube next to the bed. The Feathernest has a very reasonable day rate.
From the moment I picked her up Nicole seemed nervous and shy. She confided in me that this the first time she had done this. She also told me I was only the third man she had sex with.
We spent the next three hours banged like college kids. I ate a viagra so I could keep going. I left her so sore she could barely sit down or talk. We did it in the jacuzzi, shower, bed, desk. What an amazing experience.
Afterward I dropped a Nicole back at Temple and went back to work. Not a bad midday treat!
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02-18-19 12:29 #16188
Posts: 2682Originally Posted by Kwagmire [View Original Post]
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02-18-19 11:09 #16187
Posts: 353Hotel logistics?
How do you guys handle hotel meets, logistically. As in booking the room and checking out and all that? I know some of you use prepaid credit cards and such, but I'm not quite as concerned about that as I'm single.
Here's my deal. I met a civvy in a bar last week and we hit it off. She's a single mom and about 12 years younger than me, thin and cute and with a fun personality. She isn't married, but lives with the baby daddy and has for some years now. She came right out and said sex in her relationship is non-existent and that she and BD sleep in separate rooms, and that her "needs" aren't being met. I'm thinking this one is mine to lose.
My issue is that my "cray-dar" is going off a bit. I think she has the potential to be high drama and possibly cause issues. For this reason, I don't want to take her to my place straight away. So I'm thinking hotel.
How do you guys handle the logistics of checking in? I'm sure the front desk clerk knows what's up if a couple turns up in the evening without a reservation and asks for a room. If you're in a bar with a POT and you both decide to get a room, do you book online on your phone and then show up 15 minutes later and check in?
What about checking out? She won't likely be able to spend the night, so how do you handle only using the room for a few hours? Do you check out? Just leave and let the hotel realize you left the next day? Both check out together looking disheveled and freshly fucked, and just own it?
Love to hear your tactics, gents.
Kwag.
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02-18-19 10:26 #16186
Posts: 65Originally Posted by FeelGoodMd [View Original Post]
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02-18-19 09:24 #16185
Posts: 174Originally Posted by JohnRichard [View Original Post]
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02-18-19 08:29 #16184
Posts: 454Very Good Deal
Here is a response to my initial message from a supposedly 20 yr old college student on SA. I can't make this up.
"Hello! I just joined this site. A little nervous. I am looking to meet up with potential sugar daddy's but for right now, just wanting to chat online. I am looking for mutual respect as well, and hope we can both enjoy our conversations together. For each hour long conversation I charge $200, for a single picture I charge $75-100 depending on what I am doing in the picture and your demands. I am a college student who also works so my schedule can be a little limiting at the moment. How was your day?
I responded "Are you kidding me? She may report me and I might get banned from SA. LOL.
Stay Safe.
Dr. S.
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02-17-19 19:44 #16183
Posts: 2682Dang
You single SDs have an advantage on us w / SOs. On Wednesday, I contacted a very sparse profile, 24 YO slim beauty, college grad. Wants ultimate discretion, I. E. , no public meeting. Listed an upscale city in a nearby county, but her first message gave me her # so I texted. I questioned this, turns out she is in my city. We spoke, she is a grad student, very intelligent and ready. Alas, she is departing on the weekend for an internship, and must pack, etc. , so Thursday is her only day available. I asked point-blank, 'you just want to meet me privately?' and she replied yes. Right to the FC off the site! No ask for sugar. However, given it was Val Day and I was working, I could not just drop everything to meet her, so I had to let her go. Good messages of followup, and an intention to meet when she returns from NY in 2 months, but we'll see.