Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[HuntLadys29]

To quote the late great Rodney King, can't we all just get along.

[NKY747]

No one, NO ONE, is going to make me believe between BBBJ, DATY that CFS is covering all basis. It's not. I take risks like everyone else, depending on who I meet, what I know about them and through casual non-identifying info. Nobody knows who's rolling dirty.

Considering I was mongering years ago in downtown Cincinnati with nothing more than a cell phone and a city beat ad, no internet, the gamble and the stakes were extremely high to meet one on one with danger.

Had a provider in the past two months tried to offer BBBJ with a swelled up left side of her jaw. NFW that was happening. Get your face fixed, I'll stick to being hand job harry.

I have fun on both sides of the coin, mongering for specific likes / wants, plenty of fish for inbetween casual. If I was to 'trust' who's cleaner in the big picture when it comes to fun, nothing puts past me that the providers in this gamut do anything but being sloppy to the design of protecting themselves.

1 exception to bb; someone knowing their relationship to a monger knowing their history in regards to that topic. Not all of us are dipping in the dipping sauce.

[ClassASweetie]

Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.

The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".

As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.

A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.

Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.

Fdx17.

But the problem is babe is that it's not always members that see us ladies. As then there are some that are members for yrs but have no post. And then others that are just long time readers. If someone is a member with post a simple pm with his num should be unuf for verification. I don't feel the need for refs for members with post but some ladies do. But when we get someone that we need to do a ref on because he isn't a member and the ladies won't give the ref, there are other verifications but it does become a hassle sometimes and the client or the woman may just give up and a good time may be lost. The escort reviews is really that place that you are saying we should have and that's what that thread is actually for. It's just become a little more than that. I think the whole point is with everything going on, everyone should put their differences aside to protect one another. This is a community and most of us women believe in protecting each other. I have learned who will and will not give a reference. I can say that Sinful, Summer, Silk, Sassy Sexy, Nattie, Melanie, and a few others are great for giving references. It shouldn't matter how they work or what they do, I wouldn't want anyone busted by LE. Even EC I would give a ref to even with what she said awhile ago. But that's just the way I am. I truley believe in karma and I do by best to help my fello sisters and the best I can do to make you gentlemen happy. No one is perfect and I never claim to be but I believe it's always best to help one another out.

[SashaBlack]

We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.

Pt,

Are you out of your god forbidden tiny little mind. If you think for one second that I actually Belong to somebody you're a bigger fucking idiot that I thought you were. If you don't recall correctly a while ago I went independent and absolutely hated it that's why I began to work with Buddha again. The phone calls and the PMs I got from gentlemen were absolutely ridiculous and I can't even imagine some of the things these ladies on here have to deal with. That's why "I "choose to not put my number on the board. Buddha has no say in who I give my number to and talk to outside of the hobby or within the hobby. Why the hell would I give my personal number out to people I don't even know? And I have no calls for burner phone since Buddha does all of my scheduling. He knows when I'm available And he knows who I like to see. After each New friend I make if there's a connection or not I let Budda know and based on what I tell him is whether I see my new friend again or not. I cannot honestly comprehend that you think I belong to somebody. Fucking dumb!

You're right I shouldn't assume things about you just like you shouldn't assume things about me. Buddha has never once logged on to my account and posted anything for me. Everything you read with my name next to it comes from me. You your self have said you have liked bareback, just because you don't get it from "some "providers doesn't mean you don't get it from others. You can ask any gentleman that I have ever seen, if you have the audacity to ask me for bareback I will kick you off me punch you in the fucking throat and then throw you out of my room. I will not be disrespected and a man asking me to stick their bare dick inside me is being disrespectful.

Sb.

[D Nut]

We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.

Let me clear up a couple of things for you there bud.

#1, Sasha and the other ladies do NOT work for Buddah. It's more the other way around. The girls tell him when they can work, and what services they are open to do, and in your case, who they will not work. They pay Buddha to setup the dates according to the conditions the girls set. Buddha has his own rules as to who he is going to work with. His reputation of a quality connection has value and if he deals with girls who are less than professional, HIS reputation takes a hit.

#2, You may say, "I don't do BB on everybody.". But that is one of the craziest arguments you can have. It only takes one time to get VD. It only takes one time to get AIDS. It only takes ONE time to screw yourself up the rest of the time. If you see girls who want to take that risk, fine. You also had better prepare yourself to be marked as one with a higher risk factor. Because of that, Buddah and Sasha have pretty much made it clear that they will not deal with you.

[ClassASweetie]

OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!

My choice!

First of all I don't do bareback and I am clean as a whistle and I get checked every three months. And I have papers to prove it. I am an independent provider and would never pay a dirtbag like yourself who mistreat woman if they don't bare down to him. I have no problems with your ladies but I only hope you don't treat them like this. But since so many ladies have left you lately now I can see why. Saftey is my priority and has always been my num 1 priority. You assumed that all because I associate with PT and BM that I do bareback when in fact I have never been with them sexually. I talk to them because they are true gentlemen unlike ureself. You got mad because I wouldn't take your side when it came to you and PT. Neither one of those men would ever call a lady on here a dog nor a skank. You have to think very low of women to even say that to a lady. You were the one that said if any provider needed refs or had questions to call you. You lied. You don't give references. You also said you don't get paid, that's another lie. Another thing how in the fuck do you know who does bareback unless you are fucking them yourself? So you have made assumptions and / or believing rumors. Not one of my reviews have said I do bareback and all say were CFS. So since you want to say I am drama, well no it ain't drama these are facts. My safety goes has far as no cim. Yep diseases are spread that way to. And before you can say everything you do is %100 safe, that's unrealistic. Oral uncovered, kissing, cim, things like that can spread diseases.

Every girl that works here is different and beautiful inside and out and work the way they want and the gentlemen who see us are respectful. You just showed your true colors. If anyone read all the posts going back between you and PT there are countless lies from your own mouth. You can think what you want of me but I will never let some "adviser or financial counselor" LOL get me down. I am a strong, confident, beautiful woman. And I am all about respect. God has blessed me with a great life that I am so grateful for because I am having the time of my life. I will pray that god will come into your life and help you with your needs.

[Fdx17]

Instead of complaining which provider is or isn't returning phone calls, why don't providers just acknowledge a review when one is posted, specially by a newbie? Good review or bad review, a simple, "Thank you. I had a good time too.", or a "I'm sorry you didn't have a good time. I will work on the issues you brought up." will get you more repeat business that back channeling each other.

Also, if an established provider "taps" a newbie on the shoulder, anointing him, so to speak, it alerts other people that he is a legitimate, his reviews will carry more weight with other clients.

It's the same for senior members, mentioning that they have spent time with a new girl. When a senior verifies a provider with a public review, there is less jockeying and pushing as to who will risk taking one for the team.

Arguing a review is not permitted, but a simple "thank you" is always a welcome addition. When I see a provider do that, and even acknowledge some of the problems that might have been mentioned in the review, my respect for them goes up. Natti GFE did that when people complained about the neatness of her incall; she apologized, cleaned up, and things were better.

Just wondering, not trying to make the board more complicated but what if a thread was started for this purpose only. It could be called "Been there done that" or anything else appropriate.

The purpose would not be for a review but to affirm someone is legit. Have it be two sentence max. "I saw Sydney Moore. Had a good time." Then Hopefully Sydney would reply "Thanks Fdx17. Hope to see you again.".

As long as each contributor put the other persons name in the post you could do a search on the name "Sydney Moore" and quickly come up with everyone who has seen her. Vise versa a provider could search "Fdx17" and see any provider who has acknowledged my visit.

A monger could do a search on Sydney Moore and find Fdx17 has seen her. If he is comfortable he could move on or he could then do a search on Fdx17 and find out what providers have confirmed him. Lets say he finds Natti GFE has seen him. The monger himself has seen Natti GFE thereby knowing that Sydney is probably a legit provider.

Just throwing it out there. If it makes sense it could be our version of a green dot that other Indypendant sites use. If it doesn't make sense disregard.

Fdx17.

[PillowTalk69]

First paragraph.

I'm a little confused here. I do not belong to Buddha nor do any of the ladies he works with. Buddha has two simple rules and if you don't follow them, well he don't work with you.

Rule 1: USE A FUCKING CONDOM.

Rule 2: If you say you'll be there... Be there.

I belong to ME!

Also...

I go by what I read on the boards and it shows that you and your brother like BB, I personally don't want to risk myself or the hassle of explaining something my kids (like your brother I'm a family woman) to associate myself with gentlemen or ladies that offer that.

We like bb doesn't say we do it with all the women we see does it?. NO IT DOESN'T. If you read the first paragraph closely it says if women ask what we like we express ALL OUR LIKES It then becomes up to the woman to decide what she wants to do. That has always been that way. We treat women with respect. We don't as your boss says treat women like dogs. That is cheap shit rolling out of his mouth. He sets up your dates your locations according to him. Takes a cut of your work and sets the rules. I would say it "appears" you work for and belong to him and do it his way, not as if you were on your own making your own arrangements. If not you would probably be on your own doing your own thing. Your call and since I don't see any of his ladies when they work for him his and your choice. If I like something it doesn't mean I or my brother get it. Just as if I read on the board you or some other lady liked it doesn't mean she does it or gives it HUH? I appreciate your dedication but unless you know for a fact I have done bb with a well known lady on this board for SURE it becomes just a rumor so I promise YOU THIS. I won't spread what I have heard or read about you or anyone else if you don't spread shit about me. Fair enough? Works for me and I hope works for you. Any man who calls a woman a dog without proof is the scum of the earth because he likes to spread shit. This is about getting sex not spreading shit about people. I won't spread any rumors about you or your friends Afford me the same courtesy. Works for me and I hope works for you. Have a good week / weekend.

[Fdx17]

Clear your inbox.

Thanks,

Fdx.

[Admin2]

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

NEVER publish PM's if they identify the sender. You can post "I got a PM from some guy asking blah" (if the blah doesn't identify him) but PM's mean PRIVATE message. It's in the Octagon and I saw it was argumentative but didn't notice it was a PM. Budda said he's ok with it being published, which is the only reason it's still here. Nuff Said.

The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback.

This is untrue, guys can post that they did BB with some chick. They can't BRAG about it, it has to be informational, they can't post about it all the time, they can't describe chicks that don't do it as subpar. They can say, as with any info, I fucked X and we did Y.

A2

[SashaBlack]

What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.

But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.

Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.

My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.

First paragraph.

I'm a little confused here. I do not belong to Buddha nor do any of the ladies he works with. Buddha has two simple rules and if you don't follow them, well he don't work with you.

Rule 1: USE A FUCKING CONDOM.

Rule 2: If you say you'll be there... Be there.

I belong to ME!

Also...

I go by what I read on the boards and it shows that you and your brother like BB, I personally don't want to risk myself or the hassle of explaining something my kids (like your brother I'm a family woman) to associate myself with gentlemen or ladies that offer that.

[PillowTalk69]

What my brother and I like doesn't mean that is what we get. It is and has ALWAYS been the ladies choice, not ours. When a lady asks us our likes we tell them but we also say it is their option. Whether you chose to let us see your ladies is YOUR CHOICE, they are YOUR ladies.

But you should NEVER judge another provider by the fact they associate with us or like us because it DOES NOT MEAN THEY GIVE US WHAT WE WOULD LIKE. If you called a woman a DOG for associating with us I would ask every client on this board to BLACKBALL you for it. That is treating a woman like scum and especially a woman who is considered a reputable and kind lady. To refuse if you did to give references based on what you think we MIGHT have done is understandable but also doing a disservice to the provider and her protection with other clients.

Sorry BUDDAH. I like you and the way you run your business whether I get any of your pussy or not. And there are things you have told me you have sat with other providers and done that would not set well but I will refrain from sharing those along with things you have been asked to provide out side of the hobby especially to one male in particular.

My concern with you and other men on this board is to stop stereotyping myself and my brother based on what you have heard instead of what you know FOR SURE. I have told my brother to stay out of this because he has a family to protect. I don't. Just remember that people who live in glass houses and that includes all of us shouldn't throw stones. Nuff said by me and I will move on. I suggest you quit playing the angel you pretend to be and concentrate on your business. You do a good job, I will give you that. But stick with what you know, not what you think you do or have been told. Works much better. And for your edification neither my brother or I have EVER SEEN a street walker We stick with quality ladies or ladies vetted by well thought of men and hobbyists on this board.

[Utr In Ohio]

Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.

OK let me ad to my list I won't help disease spreading skanks who do bare back!

My choice!

[WordSmithFour]

Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.

I'm sure I will catch hell from some on this board, but I don't mind saying openly that in all my dealings with Buddah, he has shown himself to be professional, honest and straightforward--whether our conversation dealt with business or not. I find his ladies to be some of the best this city has to offer, and his role has never given me reason to pause before contacting him. I can't speak for others, but as for me--Buddah and UTR are the way this business should be run.

[ClassASweetie]

Reasons I will give out refs.

1). A good Monger I know ask me to do so.

2). The provider asking me has more than one year of good reports here.

Reasons I will not.

1). I don't like to get involved with newbies.

2). I know some of these girls have never even logged onto USASG.

3). Too many aliases used by SW types to track.

4). I don't involve myself with girls who may have been busted.

*if your a client of mine and want to use me as a ref. Let me know its OK to share your info with?

Because I am not under your "will not" reasons. Yet you have never giving me a ref and I have been on this board almost a year.

Also let me post a pm you have sent me so these men understand where I am coming from.

"As much as I appreciate your kind words on the board. The problem I have with PT and BM, and the problem they have with me boils down to condoms. I don't want to work with girls who will not use condoms 100% of the time. Therefore, Mac and Pt are not permitted to even try to use the service. When you tell me that you know both of them. All I can think is you must be one of the girls providing such services. I guess that's your choice, I personally am disgusted with the whole idea of it. There are so many clients who don't require that. So many that we'll see you be respectful and are happy to wear a condom. This is only money. They don't care about you. I've been here 24 years and can tell you... They're only happy with you if you're their dog! The two of them are a hemorrhoid on the asshole of his business.

So when you ask me for references of clients, clients who I know and respect. It's hard for me to do that. The one piece of information that's not allowed on usag is if a girl provides bareback. I hope this comes as no surprise, the same guys you see also visit streetwalkers and of course bare back with them as well.

It comes down to this... I protect my girls. I am here to make money if I want to do them both I have to make sure my clients are aware of that behavior. If they choose to risk visiting a girl who provides bareback I have no choice but to take them off my client list. I hope you understand that its business and a personal thing. My crew operates as a family and we discussed everything this is what they chose.".

Let me also say I have never done bareback with PT or BM and I am not a dog for associating with them. They are great men and I have always enjoyed talking to them exspecially BM. Let me also say that I my ad say CFS.