Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Mykull44]

Yes, if you like DATY it's all you can eat.

If she puts a dollar in her belt, it's ALL you can EAT under a DOLLAR!

[NKY747]

Does anyone here besides me have a tendency to start busting out laughing during climax? Been dealing with this for years. I also yell out famous brand names of candy.

[BuyingSmiles]

If you did a hour you should get two pops.

So, now your telling me how I should spend my time? Tell you what, when you pay for my time, you can tell me when and how to pop. What part of 100% satisfied don't you get?

[BigMike77]

I was in the mood for a little body rub today. I wanted more than what I get from the AMP that I visit for a serious massage. So I contacted Heather. I had texted with her a few times in past, just never had a good time for both of us. After seeing someone blast her and her room mate today about being a rip off, I had to see for my self. (no such thing as bad publicity I guess) A few text, a short phone call and an hour later I was on my way.

I Spent an hour with this hot little spinner. She has a very nice little body & great personality. Nice incall location, I felt safe, it was clean & comfortable. Not even close to a therapeutic massage but a very sensual woman's touch. If you like the feel of a woman rubbing and caressing you from head to toe, you will will enjoy her body rub. I certainly enjoyed it. My session lasted about an hour on the nose but it was a very comfortable hour. Never was she in a rush. She finished me off with an amazing BBBJ. And I mean fished me off!

We discussed her menu earlier and although I didn't enjoy FS it was on menu. She also offers two girl action with her room mate. Her rate was $.5 Hour. A bit much for just BBBJ you might say but FS wasn't denied just never got that far. I was 100% satisfied. I will repeat as funds allow. Next time I'll enjoy the FS.

As they say YMMV. For me, she was nothing close to a rip off. She was worth every penny! Hell I'm getting involuntary moment in my lower abdominal area just thinking about her now!

If you did a hour you should get two pops.

[Admin2]

With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.

I'll start this with You don't know what the fuck you're talking about!

I didn't really mean that, I just haven't said it in awhile.

Here, since ala carte is both legal and WIDELY available (30,000 sex workers in Buenos Aires) you don't see a lot of sugar daddy deals. One of the main reasons you see it up there (IMHO) is because it's against the law, guys want to find something hot, AND safe. If there were 500 hotties that were safe why would you pay 20 K a month when you could pay 100 an hour while you're actually using the service and have a bunch to choose from?

I'm sure there would be some SB action, just as there is here because some guys dig the idea of (but generally not the reality of) exclusivity.

[FantasyFancy]

I lost my home due to fire a year ago was forced to go to a hotel and with rent being 60 a night plus food cigs gas car insurance car payment kids and anything else my cost if living is substantial so drugs wouldn't even figure into my financial situation.

With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.

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[Bucks97]

I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.

With the cost of living in Cincinnati, non-drug-addicted women really don't need to be escorts to make a living for the most part. I think the college girls working their way through school this way can do so more readily by seeking out sugar daddies rather than advertising continuously. So you really have mostly drug addicts working the trade here, and once they've got an arrest or two, they really don't have nearly as much choice. If you're talking about bigger cities with higher rents, you really do have college or grad students or others with decent jobs escorting on the side to pay rent.

I know many guys believe their faves here aren't drug addicts. But, as I've said before, you are probably wrong. Take this as advice from someone who has believed the same thing, only to be proved wrong over and over again. The reason the trade is thriving here is largely because heroin is thriving here.

[HuntLadys29]

I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.

You hit the nail on the head, over here if a girl starts using the forum to get thru college it's on the news. I'm not making this up our local station channel 12 just did a story on it a few weeks ago. It's like these girls are doing something unworldly. Shit I wish it was the other way around and women paid for dick, I'm not talking about the lady that might need a gigolo every now and then I'm talking like female mongers I'd be the busiest girl around and raking in as many dollars as I could.

[Cheech1]

I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.

Your points are well taken, but I want to go farther. The USA was populated by by bluenose assholes who in many cases came here to escape religious persecution. What I believe the school books fail to mention is that the reason they were being prosecuted is because their religious views were so extreme and without tolerance that they would make everyone around them who didn't hold the same views miserable, if not dead. Take, for example, the burning and / or hanging of witches.

Moving to more recent times, beginning in the early part of the 1900's, the bandwagon got rolling with alcohol prohibition. You can read plenty about how fucked up that got with bathtub gin. When you make something the people want illegal, the people will get it anyway because a black market will form to supply it. Because it's a black market, there is no significant self regulation because providers of products have no incentive to become well known and recognized for their product because the attention would most likely land them in jail or worse. Then, when the people finally got fed up with alcohol prohibition, the government legalized it and taxed it to hell.

Unfortunately, due to the nature of government in general, and the desire of people in power to keep power, and to the stupidity of the american people in general, they decided they couldn't let all those revenue agents lose their jobs. Therefore, they decided to make smoke and pretty much everything else illegal. So now you have to buy your H on the street if you're so inclined, instead of at the local drugstore as you could before. So now alcohol is clean and pure, but drugs are laced with all kinds of shit in many cases. Gives the government another, self created reason to prohibit things the people want, and collect more tax revenue in the process. And power.

Same thing with the world's oldest profession. The providers, instead of being out in the open and competing on the basis of services, reputation for cleanliness, amenities, etc, in the open, have to work in the shadows, which allows and encourages a lot of bullshit.

Another example of how the government screws the people. Thank you for the use of your soapbox.

Cheech.

[Admin2]

Since I am not living where you are I can't comment on the girls there but here as you know there is a Big heroin problem. Drugs as you know will make you lax on everything you were taught in your formative years. I believe without the drugs a lot of these ladies wouldn't be as bad as they are. I've never met a person on drugs male or female that had any motivation to do anything accept lie cheat or steal, simple lifestyle things like hygiene are an after thought.

I'm sure that most of the chicks in the biz here prolly smoke a little weed, most people do here, but you just don't see drug addicts except for the SW's in the really bad neighborhoods. It's another thing I attribute to the legal status of the hobby here. Drug addicts just can't compete with the rest of the market.

A college girl can make 5 times working part time as an escort to what she can make full time working at a 7-11, have her hours free, have a place and time for study and support the inevitable kid or two she has. So when the choice is between a healthy 22 year old hottie or a heroin addict... Well that's no choice at all.

It's why I want to smack all these, "prostitution creates drug addicts" assholes. It's the other way around.

A2.

[HuntLadys29]

I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.

Since I am not living where you are I can't comment on the girls there but here as you know there is a Big heroin problem. Drugs as you know will make you lax on everything you were taught in your formative years. I believe without the drugs a lot of these ladies wouldn't be as bad as they are. I've never met a person on drugs male or female that had any motivation to do anything accept lie cheat or steal, simple lifestyle things like hygiene are an after thought.

[Admin2]

I read the Mongernator's report. I'm amazed at the difference legalizing the hobby makes. I'm not commenting on the veracity of the report but if it's true a chick like that would be out of business so fast down here because the market just wouldn't tolerate it and competition is fucking tough. These chicks here buy lights, mirrors, several different shampoo's and body soaps for the bathrooms and generally change the sheets with every customer. They keep beer, coca cola, whisky, water, condoms, candy, smokes. Hell they will keep your supply of condoms there if you want.

This kind of shit just wouldn't fly, it would be all over the local forum in an hour and nobody would call.

A2.

[John Cleland]

The old car salesman line "there's an ass for every seat" appears to apply here on this board to the Nth degree. I've been floored by some of the descriptions I've read on this board by mongers who have visited SP's with whom I've visited as well only to read descriptions often 180 degrees opposite my experience. Where I've read raves about certain SP's on this board, my YMMV experience often left me feeling the complete opposite. I'm not simply referring to performance. I'm referring to descriptions of the provider, her looks, body description, face and location. I yield when it comes to performance descriptions because women I find boring are often other's ATF. YMMV is clearly the rule of the road in our hobby.

As for the description department, let's talk about Kristy84.

Don't get me wrong. If you read my report on both the Cincinnati and Dayton boards (because she's in Middletown) you'll notice I strived to leave personal opinion out of the report. But that was nearly impossible given the extreme circumstances. I felt my opinion omission effort in my "escort classified ads – member discussions" board post was necessary to ensure there's no question I'm sticking to the rules of the board in addition to striving to be objective (again, given the circumstances). I decided to reveal how I really feel about it here in the Octagon.

So here's MHO about Kristy84.

Yes, she's sweet. Yes, she's agreeable, malleable, she means well, she's easy set up, she's not a clock watcher, and she's open-minded.

She's an overall 3-4 on my 1-10 scale at best. But that's mostly because she could be doing so much better for herself with little effort.

The no-tel room isn't unsafe. But man it's dirty to the point of disgusting. All that was missing was cat feces and urine odors (not unexpected by the look of the place). (And no, there was no cat shit or smell, just being poetic). I wished I brought a bed sheet but at least I was glad I brought a separate set of clothes and plastic bag to store my old ones once we were done. Cigarette smell permeated my clothes to the point they reeked to the point where I had to freshen my car afterward. There was trash overfilling the cans. Clothes everywhere. And grime on the walls, floors, sink, and surfaces that hasn't seen a wipe by some kind of cleaning apparatus for at least a month. At least she honored my request before arrival to be freshly showered. But I'm warning you team, this girl's incall is the most disgusting I've encountered so far. The only SP that had a worse cigarette problem was EE's Melea. And even Natti GFE / Allison's old place near Covington at least had a semi clean shower, sink and toilet and sheets (though the rest of her place was a scene out of an episode of "Hoarders"). Kristy's place? A dump AND dirty. Never going back there.

But this Octagon rant isn't just about Kristy84. It's about the rest of you USA monger members who have been praising this woman. What makes me crazy is nobody seems to have really warned us. I read the old reports and the no-tel was criticized before. So is this a YMMV scenario? Or am I the only monger here with the honestly and guts to tell it like it is?

Then there's her chat / dialogue during the session. Attention Kristy: do think I really want to know about the four kids you popped out of that little spinner body of yours? It's one thing to be able to conclude you're a MILF via the pooch / gut you've got down below. But once you volunteered about your four offspring, I had to take another hit of the 420 to shield my imagination. Too much information Kristy. Same goes for your heart condition, living situation, and your family member who passed away. Do you really think we want your reality to blend into our fantasy?

For what it's worth, Kristy is a good sport. She plays well once you get going so my advice is once you arrive ask her to keep her personal life out of the fantasy and get to business as quickly as possible. The condition of her teeth left me unwilling to even consider possible LFK much less DFK. But I must admit I was impressed with the condition of her mammaries given the four cherubs she once nursed.

Repeat? Not only won't I repeat, I caution everyone to consider passing on a couple more cases of beer so you can save some cash and spend it towards getting much more milage out of your hard earned monger dollars by investing into the likes of Silk, Sassy Sexy, and some of the other fine SP's who provide highest quality personal hygiene in addition to their quality surroundings at the most reasonable rates in the country. Even SP's like Natti / Allison and Remmy at least have clean quarters despite any personal belongings disarray.

Sorry Kristy. Hopefully you'll take this to heart and clean up your act.

And fellow mongers: be fucking honest when you report please? Stop raving when there's nothing to rave about?

Next time Sassy Sexy doesn't answer her phone, I'll just wait until she does.

The mongernator.

[AngryJohnny]

If you like some meat, you should come to Memphis and try out these two. They have created quite a stir on the Memphis board but so far there have been no takers. We need a Queen City monger to come down here and show us good old boys how it's done. We will even throw in all the pizza they can eat to sweeten the deal. Are you up for it.

http://memphis.backpage.com/Dominati...hip-28/5707454

I don't think I could maintain an erection with someone this big. Even with a blue pill. YIKES!

[LuvdaLadys14]

Where in the "H" do you find lingerie that size?

Omar the tent maker would be my guess. But like buying XXL and XXXL items, it's goina cost ya extra.

Luv.