Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Scup1958]

She told me he raped her and beat her ass. So who knows what happened.

Not hard to believe when according to his own review she was trying to get out of the room while still naked. She must have been pretty desperate to get away from him.

Hopefully all providers will read his full review and decide if they are desperate enough to see him.

[AlfReady]

Deep Blue acknowledged that he offered to pay half, and threw down $40 meaning he meant to spend $80. For over an hour of effort $80 is cheap.

But I apologize for going off, and causing a s_itstorm.

Guys, these ladies don't last long when treated poorly. Try to be reasonable, my last word.

Alf.

I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.

[BuyingSmiles]

I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.

She told me he raped her and beat her ass. So who knows what happened.

[Rod Thk39]

Let's be realistic here. If she were "gorgeous" she would be commanding a much higher price. Or do you think she knows she could command a higher price but is so unselfish and such a humanitarian she just wants to spread her beauty among the masses as a goodwill ambassador? If you were her age and in a nice bar or night club with girls of the same age, you probably wouldn't give her a 2nd look unless you could never pick up any pussy on your own at that age without having to paying for it. There is nothing wrong with paying for marginal looking pussy. I certainly do it. Let's just not delude ourselves that we are screwing "beautiful" & "gorgeous" girls at $80-$150 a pop.

Seriously Josh? I know your point scale is 2 points below mine, my 9 is a 7 to you, but forget about all that rating BS and ask is she attractive? And remember Beauty is in the Eye of the Beholder. I have only seen pics of Natti and looks cute even if she's not my preferred type. Not hard to imagine her in person, made up fully, looking gorgeous, beautiful, attractive, or another superlative so surely it figures some who saw her would feel likewise. What is so difficult for you to comprehend dude? You can't just dismiss those Opinions as wrong, LOL? And I've said before, wait for your 50's fun because your scale gains 2 points. Youth has its own appeal regardless of what you might have thought about her looks when you were 20 or 30's. You have said you won't pay for a provider that you wouldn't have banged free in your 20's. That will change. You can hope!

But Marginal, Natti, Really??

[Grizzler]

I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

Aa.

Most guys are paying several times their hourly wage to spend a halfhour or an hour with a girl. And most of us want to give her pleasure as well. For some of us like myself. It is a requirement. We don't want to see the game. So if a girl tries to rob me. I would take it personally. And I would take it as a bad business choice also.

[Member #5083]

This is funny stuff. To know how old the gals I date and dated are you would need to know my age or is this the "new math" you learned that we are all against in the schools. And if you don't like country music then maybe you don't know Miranda, my gold standard? Would be Catherine zeta jones or Shania twain soon as they come knocking at my door I am history, LOL but hell josh they are probably in the too ugly to fuck category for you to. I got no problem with your opinions tho. They are worth just as much as mine are. Now go fuck someone your getting too cranky.

Ok. Now I know who Miranda Lambert is. However, if she wasn't a celebrity, would she still be your gold standard? I screw marginal looking providers all the time, I just admit that they are marginal looking. I am still having fun though. It's been a long time since I can honestly say I screwed a really hot looking provider in Ohio. I am even so cynical that I believe many of these girls pretend they have orgasms and would rather that I leave the $ on the table and walk out the door rather than take the time to screw me. I read about multiple O's in some of these reviews and really feel inadequate. Either I am not performing well enough or I don't have a big enough imagination.

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[Ashoka]

I was in the midst of responding to this on the USA classifieds forum when A2 nuked the responses, I'm just putting my 2 cents in here in case anyone is interested in discussing. Also, I already wrote most of it:

Some posters thought Deep Blue went batshit over $65. But he said he paid upfront for a multi-hour session at an average cost of $65/ hr. And that she tried to sneak out after the first pop, presumably well before the session ended, with that whole nut. So it's a valid rip off report on its face, though total stakes are unknown. Maybe Deep Blue can fill us in.

But no matter the total bill, I would not have handled it like that. I think a lot of the guys who responded weren't white knighting but were uncomfortable with the idea of manhandling a girl like that to recover losses. Not trying to judge the OP, I wasn't there. Still you have to set your expectations correctly. The truth is, almost any girl out there will take advantage of an opportunity. I saw a great CL girl recently for a car date, and later realized she took my sunglasses. I don't take it personal, they're trying to take advantage of us and vice-versa. Just don't give them the leverage.

That means no outcalls to your real place, no mention of your real job, family, marital status, etc. There's just no cause to do it. And no cash in advance for extended sessions. Wldn't even consider it unless I knew the girl in question really well, and even then I'd probably pay in installments, either in 30/60 minute increments or half up front half later.

All that to say, don't put more $$ on the nightstand than you're ready to walk away from. No one bats a thousand at this game, even with this almighty forum behind you. Even if the OP was in the right, that thing could have gone sideways a million different ways. Heck, they still might. That chick can find his place.

Aa.

[Countryboy72]

If you dated women 20 years younger, then you were you dating girls 3-4 years old? Looks are looks and if your experience, whether good or bad, should not have anything to do with looks. Even if a girl ripped you off, if she is hot looking, you should still admit it. If she was a great experience but a dog, then that should be said. This girl is just another, better than average looking provider. Don't delude yourself. Who the **ck is Miranda Lambert? Is she the standard we are supposed to be measuring these girls by?

This is funny stuff. To know how old the gals I date and dated are you would need to know my age or is this the "new math" you learned that we are all against in the schools. And if you don't like country music then maybe you don't know Miranda, my gold standard? Would be Catherine zeta jones or Shania twain soon as they come knocking at my door I am history, LOL but hell josh they are probably in the too ugly to fuck category for you to. I got no problem with your opinions tho. They are worth just as much as mine are. Now go fuck someone your getting too cranky.

[MeSoArnie]

Must have a big LEO bust going on. Never have seen so many Springdale ad's with hot chicks.

[Scarab31]

Man, it drives me nuts when so many mongers post up 3 page long reviews or whatever, and find it ok not to use paragraphs.

It makes it so difficult to read.

Mix in a few paragraphs fellas. I can't be the only one who feels this way.

Carry on.

[BuyingSmiles]

If you dated women 20 years younger, then you were you dating girls 3-4 years old? Looks are looks and if your experience, whether good or bad, should not have anything to do with looks. Even if a girl ripped you off, if she is hot looking, you should still admit it. If she was a great experience but a dog, then that should be said. This girl is just another, better than average looking provider. Don't delude yourself. Who the **ck is Miranda Lambert? Is she the standard we are supposed to be measuring these girls by?

Or do you have to work hard at being an asshole?

[Member #5083]

To me she's lovely which means her looks turn the switch, so when I say I would see her often were she close, that's good enough for me, I've dated other gorgeous women or those who would fit Miranda lamberts fastest girl in town, I have dated women 20 yrs younger not in the hobby. Problem they were mostly all about themselves not long term dating material, guess I just like occasional change and to just fuck and not play the dating game to get laid at times. We all have our interests.

If you dated women 20 years younger, then you were you dating girls 3-4 years old? Looks are looks and if your experience, whether good or bad, should not have anything to do with looks. Even if a girl ripped you off, if she is hot looking, you should still admit it. If she was a great experience but a dog, then that should be said. This girl is just another, better than average looking provider. Don't delude yourself. Who the **ck is Miranda Lambert? Is she the standard we are supposed to be measuring these girls by?

[Countryboy72]

Let's be realistic here. If she were "gorgeous" she would be commanding a much higher price. Or do you think she knows she could command a higher price but is so unselfish and such a humanitarian she just wants to spread her beauty among the masses as a goodwill ambassador? If you were her age and in a nice bar or night club with girls of the same age, you probably wouldn't give her a 2nd look unless you could never pick up any pussy on your own at that age without having to paying for it. There is nothing wrong with paying for marginal looking pussy. I certainly do it. Let's just not delude ourselves that we are screwing "beautiful" & "gorgeous" girls at $80-$150 a pop.

To me she's lovely which means her looks turn the switch, so when I say I would see her often were she close, that's good enough for me, I've dated other gorgeous women or those who would fit Miranda lamberts fastest girl in town, I have dated women 20 yrs younger not in the hobby. Problem they were mostly all about themselves not long term dating material, guess I just like occasional change and to just fuck and not play the dating game to get laid at times. We all have our interests.

[LeoMac]

You just told the man, (and basically everyone else that shares his opinion) that he doesn't even know, what his own opinion is? If you want to be realistic, You might start with, everyone's taste is not the same as yours. Everyone's opinion is not the same as yours. I don't know about the rest of the guys, but I sure do appreciate your setting me straight, on the fact, that my opinion and taste in women is and has been fucked up my whole life.

Thank you BS for your intelligent observation of choice. It never fails to entertain me in large public gatherings, to notice the couples you see together and try to figure out what could they possibly have in common with each other. In my own social surroundings, knowing something of their personalities helps in some cases but also proves the point we don't see in someone what they see. To each his own and nowhere should that be respected more than with our sport. If only one person selected all the providers, only ONE person would be satisfied.

[MrChill]

Great point.

I would add one more point to your comment that it takes some effort to take a photo and then post it. It's more than effort. It's game. There's a skill to inviting a provider to participate and just whipping out an iPhone in the moment isn't it. There are a few guys in various cities, you included, that are like f'ing photo pied pipers and you bring out the best in your girls, even when that "best" might be ugly to some. Even when I don't like your girl's looks, I always find myself looking at the pics and asking "what's Glock trying to say about this girl and his experience with her?

Thanks for taking the time to adopt Cincinnati as your home away from home when it comes to sharing pics. Still haven't made it to Memphis but seeing the sights is making that trip to Graceland a little more attractive.

Have a great day.

Dz.

Glockman. Pics are great and appreciated from the (419) Toledo. I'm a Big Fan and it does take verbal skills and camera talent to do what you do and get the girls to get involved.

Because of Your Pics and CookyJars I have started to ask girls more for allowing a couple pics and I'm getting them. Just using my camera phone.

But the next step for me is to pull out my real camera and then upgrade and buy a new camera with some value to it. My intent is to share on the Forum as well. I hope that's what members understand that you are doing. There's a difference between sharing and boasting. Boasting to me is verbal and the pics are purely sharing. My 2 cents.

Keep up the good work man. I want to STRESS that It's an HONOR to the Girls that you take the "Time" to do this as well. They can look back on those years "when" their bodies were in the best shape. It's a more simple down home version of being a Playboy Bunny. Lots of women out there to enjoy. I check the Photo Gallery daily.