Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Tuffy12** · 12-11-16 08:04

Excellent commentary and suggestions!

As you describe it, the overriding purpose of this site, helping the monger community to identify safe, satisfying pussy in a pay for play transaction, is not served by the omission of critical, accurate and complete information that allows our comrades to make an informed determination about whether a particular provider may meet their needs for safety, performance, appearance, attitude, value, etc. If pertinent information about these issues is not included in a review because the monger is too focused on promoting the business of one of his favorites, demonstrating his rhetorical skills and literary creativity or white knighting in response to anyone's attempt to state or elicit more accurate information, this does not further the interests of the collective.

Since my entry into this hobby, I have been amazed how many times I have embarked on a mission after reading numerous reviews only to find much of the critical information excluded, erroneous or downright misleading. For the most part, I refuse to believe this is the result of different tastes and preferences. Most often, gross inaccuracies about the safety of the location, the girl's age, height, weight, extent of baby damage, apparent drug use or lack thereof, all lead me to conclude that reviews are frequently written to further some agenda.

Let's be honest about this point. In particular, the question as to whether a girl uses drugs or not is directly related to the potential risks involved in seeing her because usage nearly always correlates to the potential presence of criminals and law enforcement, thereby increasing the risk of collateral damage to any mongers in the vicinity.

As Willow states, remember that it is always a pay-for-play transaction. Present the relevant facts and secondarily, offer opinion and entertaining embellishment at your discretion. Remember that if you distort or omit basic information, you are deliberately or inadvertently promoting an agenda and not helping the rest of us. All too often, you become nothing but a shill for a provider and lose credibility in the process.

Now, go get laid and tell us about it.

Originally Posted by Willow1535 [View Original Post]

I really enjoy this site. I still use it to acquire information, stay in tune with the current state of the hobby and for entertainment. Yes; entertainment. Believe it or not, some of you guys and gals are actually very funny! As much as I enjoy this site, I have noticed a shift over the past year that is very troubling. Too many people on here take themselves and this hobby way, way too seriously. Emotions run high, people are often quick to insult and attack each other and information shared is at times very questionable. Mongers attack other mongers, who they feel have slighted their ATFs, or attack when they question the validity of the information provided in a post or review. I think that we all need to take a breath and remember what brought us here.

A couple of reminders.

*We are not here to make friends or create relationships with one another or the providers. This isn't M#urlreplacement0}. This site is about one thing; Pussy. Pure and simple. Guys need to remove all of the emotion from this and acknowledge the fact that you are getting laid because you are paying someone to provide that service. It is a business. I can be called 'honey', 'hunny', 'babe' or whatever, but if that donation isn't made, there will be hell to pay. Pay to play.

*Please be factual and direct in your reviews. Too many of the reviews have become an "Ode to my ATF" type review. Please just include the facts. You may feel like you are floating amongst the clouds, with a burst of Lavender in the air and the birds were chirping, but no one wants to hear that crap. If that is how you really felt; great. All I really want to know is what services were provided, did she look like her pictures, was she clean, was the place clean and smoke free, MPOPS, covered or not covered and whether or not she did CIM or spit it out. If you just answer those questions, I think that we all can come to a decision as to whether or not we would see someone. Remember Kenwood Jack's reviews? Those were reviews. Some of you guys act like you are auditioning for the next submission to the Penthouse Forum. Get a life.

Monger Rules. Basic.

A) See provider.

B) Pay provider (don't be cheap and try to negotiate. If you can't afford her, move onto someone in your income range).

C) Write factual review of provider; if you choose to.

D) Repeat steps A. C.

It's that simple.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

**John HandCock** · 12-11-16 02:29

Originally Posted by Willow1535 [View Original Post]

I really enjoy this site. I still use it to acquire information, stay in tune with the current state of the hobby and for entertainment. Yes; entertainment. Believe it or not, some of you guys and gals are actually very funny! As much as I enjoy this site, I have noticed a shift over the past year that is very troubling. Too many people on here take themselves and this hobby way, way too seriously. Emotions run high, people are often quick to insult and attack each other and information shared is at times very questionable. Mongers attack other mongers, who they feel have slighted their ATFs, or attack when they question the validity of the information provided in a post or review. I think that we all need to take a breath and remember what brought us here.

A couple of reminders.

*We are not here to make friends or create relationships with one another or the providers. This isn't M#urlreplacement0}. This site is about one thing; Pussy. Pure and simple. Guys need to remove all of the emotion from this and acknowledge the fact that you are getting laid because you are paying someone to provide that service. It is a business. I can be called 'honey', 'hunny', 'babe' or whatever, but if that donation isn't made, there will be hell to pay. Pay to play.

*Please be factual and direct in your reviews. Too many of the reviews have become an "Ode to my ATF" type review. Please just include the facts. You may feel like you are floating amongst the clouds, with a burst of Lavender in the air and the birds were chirping, but no one wants to hear that crap. If that is how you really felt; great. All I really want to know is what services were provided, did she look like her pictures, was she clean, was the place clean and smoke free, MPOPS, covered or not covered and whether or not she did CIM or spit it out. If you just answer those questions, I think that we all can come to a decision as to whether or not we would see someone. Remember Kenwood Jack's reviews? Those were reviews. Some of you guys act like you are auditioning for the next submission to the Penthouse Forum. Get a life.

Monger Rules. Basic.

A) See provider.

B) Pay provider (don't be cheap and try to negotiate. If you can't afford her, move onto someone in your income range).

C) Write factual review of provider; if you choose to.

D) Repeat steps A. C.

It's that simple.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

Excellent post and right on spot and just to damn simple.

**WorksAlot** · 12-11-16 00:08

It's been a minute since I've branched out from my usual providers. I decided to try something else tonight. I don't know if Saturdays are dead now or what, but I've tried contacting 8 different girls with either no response back or 1 of them not able to meet my needs. More money in my pockets, but I'd rather spend it.

**Benji513** · 12-10-16 20:20

I think the big problem I have seen is when mongers give their opinion, or question, whether a provider is using drugs. Which usually comes into question from the physical appearance, and / or the behavior someone finds questionable. Why emotions, or people (other than provider) get worked up over it, I don't know. I believe, if it is questionable mongers want to know. Some don't mind users, others do.

I started one of these disputes a few months ago. I just gave my report, and included something I found questionable about the providers appearance. I posted the reason provider said she looked the way she did. To me, it didn't matter if she was on drugs or not. If something is very strange about her appearance, she should be upfront about it, not wait until you show up. From there it got a little heated. Others drew the conclusion she was on drugs, while others said she looked fine.

There are other things that are nice to know, like boyfriends, handlers or other people hanging around.

As far as the experience. For those of us that like GFE, we can get a little excited over how well the experience goes. But I agree, its a paid / fake experience. So ya, she really isn't your girlfriend except for the time you pay her for.

Originally Posted by Willow1535 [View Original Post]

I really enjoy this site. I still use it to acquire information, stay in tune with the current state of the hobby and for entertainment. Yes; entertainment. Believe it or not, some of you guys and gals are actually very funny! As much as I enjoy this site, I have noticed a shift over the past year that is very troubling. Too many people on here take themselves and this hobby way, way too seriously. Emotions run high, people are often quick to insult and attack each other and information shared is at times very questionable. Mongers attack other mongers, who they feel have slighted their ATFs, or attack when they question the validity of the information provided in a post or review. I think that we all need to take a breath and remember what brought us here.

A couple of reminders.

*We are not here to make friends or create relationships with one another or the providers. This isn't M#urlreplacement0}. This site is about one thing; Pussy. Pure and simple. Guys need to remove all of the emotion from this and acknowledge the fact that you are getting laid because you are paying someone to provide that service. It is a business. I can be called 'honey', 'hunny', 'babe' or whatever, but if that donation isn't made, there will be hell to pay. Pay to play.

*Please be factual and direct in your reviews. Too many of the reviews have become an "Ode to my ATF" type review. Please just include the facts. You may feel like you are floating amongst the clouds, with a burst of Lavender in the air and the birds were chirping, but no one wants to hear that crap. If that is how you really felt; great. All I really want to know is what services were provided, did she look like her pictures, was she clean, was the place clean and smoke free, MPOPS, covered or not covered and whether or not she did CIM or spit it out. If you just answer those questions, I think that we all can come to a decision as to whether or not we would see someone. Remember Kenwood Jack's reviews? Those were reviews. Some of you guys act like you are auditioning for the next submission to the Penthouse Forum. Get a life.

Monger Rules. Basic.

A) See provider.

B) Pay provider (don't be cheap and try to negotiate. If you can't afford her, move onto someone in your income range).

C) Write factual review of provider; if you choose to.

D) Repeat steps A. C.

It's that simple.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

**JohnDoe513** · 12-09-16 20:45

Originally Posted by Willow1535 [View Original Post]

I really enjoy this site. I still use it to acquire information, stay in tune with the current state of the hobby and for entertainment. Yes; entertainment. Believe it or not, some of you guys and gals are actually very funny! As much as I enjoy this site, I have noticed a shift over the past year that is very troubling. Too many people on here take themselves and this hobby way, way too seriously. Emotions run high, people are often quick to insult and attack each other and information shared is at times very questionable. Mongers attack other mongers, who they feel have slighted their ATFs, or attack when they question the validity of the information provided in a post or review. I think that we all need to take a breath and remember what brought us here.

A couple of reminders.

*We are not here to make friends or create relationships with one another or the providers. This isn't M#urlreplacement0}. This site is about one thing; Pussy. Pure and simple. Guys need to remove all of the emotion from this and acknowledge the fact that you are getting laid because you are paying someone to provide that service. It is a business. I can be called 'honey', 'hunny', 'babe' or whatever, but if that donation isn't made, there will be hell to pay. Pay to play.

*Please be factual and direct in your reviews. Too many of the reviews have become an "Ode to my ATF" type review. Please just include the facts. You may feel like you are floating amongst the clouds, with a burst of Lavender in the air and the birds were chirping, but no one wants to hear that crap. If that is how you really felt; great. All I really want to know is what services were provided, did she look like her pictures, was she clean, was the place clean and smoke free, MPOPS, covered or not covered and whether or not she did CIM or spit it out. If you just answer those questions, I think that we all can come to a decision as to whether or not we would see someone. Remember Kenwood Jack's reviews? Those were reviews. Some of you guys act like you are auditioning for the next submission to the Penthouse Forum. Get a life.

Monger Rules. Basic.

A) See provider.

B) Pay provider (don't be cheap and try to negotiate. If you can't afford her, move onto someone in your income range).

C) Write factual review of provider; if you choose to.

D) Repeat steps A. C.

It's that simple.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

Best post I've read in a long while!

**Willow1535** · 12-09-16 14:31

I really enjoy this site. I still use it to acquire information, stay in tune with the current state of the hobby and for entertainment. Yes; entertainment. Believe it or not, some of you guys and gals are actually very funny! As much as I enjoy this site, I have noticed a shift over the past year that is very troubling. Too many people on here take themselves and this hobby way, way too seriously. Emotions run high, people are often quick to insult and attack each other and information shared is at times very questionable. Mongers attack other mongers, who they feel have slighted their ATFs, or attack when they question the validity of the information provided in a post or review. I think that we all need to take a breath and remember what brought us here.

A couple of reminders.

*We are not here to make friends or create relationships with one another or the providers. This isn't M#urlreplacement0}. This site is about one thing; Pussy. Pure and simple. Guys need to remove all of the emotion from this and acknowledge the fact that you are getting laid because you are paying someone to provide that service. It is a business. I can be called 'honey', 'hunny', 'babe' or whatever, but if that donation isn't made, there will be hell to pay. Pay to play.

*Please be factual and direct in your reviews. Too many of the reviews have become an "Ode to my ATF" type review. Please just include the facts. You may feel like you are floating amongst the clouds, with a burst of Lavender in the air and the birds were chirping, but no one wants to hear that crap. If that is how you really felt; great. All I really want to know is what services were provided, did she look like her pictures, was she clean, was the place clean and smoke free, MPOPS, covered or not covered and whether or not she did CIM or spit it out. If you just answer those questions, I think that we all can come to a decision as to whether or not we would see someone. Remember Kenwood Jack's reviews? Those were reviews. Some of you guys act like you are auditioning for the next submission to the Penthouse Forum. Get a life.

Monger Rules. Basic.

A) See provider.

B) Pay provider (don't be cheap and try to negotiate. If you can't afford her, move onto someone in your income range).

C) Write factual review of provider; if you choose to.

D) Repeat steps A. C.

It's that simple.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all!

**Tcoupe** · 12-08-16 09:32

Originally Posted by Mikeeee501 [View Original Post]

He accepted a plea to lesser charges resulting in probation and agreed to retire with a full pension. When you are guilty and know it, take a plea agreement. His attorney did a good job running it thru the courts so fast. The Sherriff and County Commissioners didn't want this in the local or national news as a PR problem. Curious to see how the girls come out on this deal?

The hamilton county sheriffs are corrupt all the way to the top, they don't want anything looked into. The head of the narcotics division stole a pound and a half from my homie, they intercepted 3 lbs, he was charged with 1. 5, dude was a real smug prick, it killed the little faith I had in system, its all a sham and a racket, they want to disarm you, fine you out of your income, and steal your wears to pedal, disgusting. if attention is paid its bad for business.

**Knight73** · 12-08-16 09:25

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Am posting this here as I obviously can't tell anyone about it in real life.

I was at a work related event recently where I met this one chick for the first time. Petite, cute, tends to say exactly what she thinks. I don't work with her, but there were other people there I have worked with before or do now. We seemed to click from the start, and we were hitting it off more and more as the night progressed. It was clear that if I played my cards right, the panties would be coming off. I wanted it so bad that Mr. Happy was rising to the occasion just from talking to her. But alas, the bigger head prevailed and I did not pursue. I was dangerously close to crapping where I eat and, of course, this chick knew my real name and could find my wife if she wanted to.

Such is the tradeoff with the hobby and real life. The hobby certainly has its dangers, but I never tell anyone my real name in the hobby and its unlikely a provider would go to the trouble of tracking me down or something. Yet, the adrenaline rush I get in the hobby is nothing at all like the adrenaline rush I had clicking with this petite cutie, know what I mean?

Even though I went home with a really blue sack, it was nice to know I still got some game left in me.

So I'm a little confused. Is the girl a working girl you know about? If you don't work with her then I wouldn't think it would be a big deal. Were you wearing your wedding ring while she was flirting around? I know what you mean about the adrenaline rush of meeting a new cutie. I have messed around on the SO with side pieces. I haven't gotten burned yet. The key to my success is being upfront with the side piece on what this is. Sex. I'll have a few drinks or grab a bite to eat as friends. I always wear my ring in case I run into someone I know unexpectedly. And I make it quite clear I am Not under no circumstance leaving my wife and kids. I tell them just enjoy what we have right now and if they start to get attached then I walk away. So it can work if the chick you talked about is cool and understands the relationship. Also, never lose your cool and go off on them cause then it could get ugly. When Ashley Madison was around it was the best cause the women I'd meet were married also so they had just as much to lose as me so it kept them in check. So all I can say is be upfront with your side piece and hopefully it works out. Stay safe.

Knight.

**Raider1687** · 12-08-16 02:47

Originally Posted by MrNails [View Original Post]

When I was younger Thanksgiving was my favorite holiday. Spending time with family was special but the best came later when I would WOBBLE and the wife would GOBBLE.

Then after I was liberated from the b**ch my favorite holiday was Christmas. With all the HO HO HO's around that I could sake my stick at.

Now that I'm older and my health is limiting my activities to have fun on these holidays any longer I had to find a new day to fit my limitations.

And today is the day. Pearl Harbor Day!! I'm lucky enough to find a woman to participate in the reenactment of this special day. I JUST LAY THERE AND SHE BLOWS THE HELL OUT OF ME.

Happy Holidays and be safe. MN.

You're a sick fuck! Your ex isn't the *****, you are. This is fucking disgusting. You are pathetic. Special day? What the hell is wrong with you?

There you go, I must admit for the record, that while I don't have to same depth of feeling as you do I do agree with where you are going with this.

A2

**Talltreeman** · 12-08-16 00:54

Originally Posted by Raider1687 [View Original Post]

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/Femal...scort/33158834

I met with Alice. She is actually 18 like her says. She is the girl in the pics, but she is more stunning in person. Her eyes are GORGEOUS! Her boobs are HUGE and her legs are really nice. There is ZERO drugs here, don't care what you are thinking. There isn't with this girl. She wants extra money for the holidays. We got a room and we had a blast for about two hours. More of a sugar baby type deal. Just work something out with her. She is very amenable. Her hair is now shoulder length and she said she had some baby damage, so she kept her skirt thing on, but outside of that, she was smooth and sexy as hell. Very good skills, BBBJ, FS, TF and just a great attitude. I will repeat.

Showed up with black stockings, the same skirt from the ad and a nice sweater showing off the girls. She looked great. Makeup done and hot shoes. The girl can play!!

You fuckers doubting what Raider has contributed to this board are fucking idiots!

The two youngest Smoking Hot girls I've fucked, have been chasing his sloppy seconds, immediately after he was generous enough to share with the board.

And the "Board". Which on a good day is some dude bitching about getting scammed by the dregs of Cincinnati, followed up by 5 more guys confirming the scam, then five more refuting the scam, saying she is a good girl. Then another guy pops in that miraculously has known her since high school and calls the first dude a liar. Or another pile on, non-review of someone with dozens of existing reviews, sharing Nothing new!

I first jumped on one of Raider's recent reviews when he shared Barbie / Ryder, by emailing her right away, while you fuckers debated endlessly about weather she was real, why she didn't suddenly respond to 200 new txt messages, and why does she have a BF. I was already in and out multiple times. Same on this one! I would have kept my mouth shut as I usually do but I couldn't stand it. Where do you get your balls big enough to look a gift horse in the mouth?

You should be licking Raiders balls for the HQ young backpage talent that he has tracked down and been willing to vet / share.

Yes she's 18 and they are real and Spectacular! You can see my review under Escorts.

TTM.

**Raider1687** · 12-08-16 00:36

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The "kill yourself" was too far

A2

**D Nut** · 12-08-16 00:12

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Am posting this here as I obviously can't tell anyone about it in real life.

I was at a work related event recently where I met this one chick for the first time. Petite, cute, tends to say exactly what she thinks. I don't work with her, but there were other people there I have worked with before or do now. We seemed to click from the start, and we were hitting it off more and more as the night progressed. It was clear that if I played my cards right, the panties would be coming off. I wanted it so bad that Mr. Happy was rising to the occasion just from talking to her. But alas, the bigger head prevailed and I did not pursue. I was dangerously close to crapping where I eat and, of course, this chick knew my real name and could find my wife if she wanted to.

Such is the tradeoff with the hobby and real life. The hobby certainly has its dangers, but I never tell anyone my real name in the hobby and its unlikely a provider would go to the trouble of tracking me down or something. Yet, the adrenaline rush I get in the hobby is nothing at all like the adrenaline rush I had clicking with this petite cutie, know what I mean?

Even though I went home with a really blue sack, it was nice to know I still got some game left in me.

Originally Posted by DGoesDown [View Original Post]

I work with an ex EE girl. I recognized her when they were bringing her around introducing her to the leaders of different departments. I never had an appointment with her while she was advertised.

She works it hard at the office. Driving the guys crazy. I'm with you though, I'd never jeopardize my position to pursue or put her on the spot by letting her know, I know.

I've posted about it before, but I currently work with a current provider known here on the boards. She's on the other end of the floor and she has no idea who I am, or that I know her secret identity. I'm not remotely tempted to setup an appointment with her. If stuff goes down and she gets angry at the company and leaves the building in a less than voluntary scenario, she could lash out at anyone and blow my cover. Even worse, since I outrank her, she can claim sexual harassment if she finds out I am not the celibate monk a single Catholic boy should be.

**Member #5522** · 12-07-16 21:10

I work with an ex EE girl. I recognized her when they were bringing her around introducing her to the leaders of different departments. I never had an appointment with her while she was advertised.

She works it hard at the office. Driving the guys crazy. I'm with you though, I'd never jeopardize my position to pursue or put her on the spot by letting her know, I know.

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Am posting this here as I obviously can't tell anyone about it in real life.

I was at a work related event recently where I met this one chick for the first time. Petite, cute, tends to say exactly what she thinks. I don't work with her, but there were other people there I have worked with before or do now. We seemed to click from the start, and we were hitting it off more and more as the night progressed. It was clear that if I played my cards right, the panties would be coming off. I wanted it so bad that Mr. Happy was rising to the occasion just from talking to her. But alas, the bigger head prevailed and I did not pursue. I was dangerously close to crapping where I eat and, of course, this chick knew my real name and could find my wife if she wanted to.

Such is the tradeoff with the hobby and real life. The hobby certainly has its dangers, but I never tell anyone my real name in the hobby and its unlikely a provider would go to the trouble of tracking me down or something. Yet, the adrenaline rush I get in the hobby is nothing at all like the adrenaline rush I had clicking with this petite cutie, know what I mean?

Even though I went home with a really blue sack, it was nice to know I still got some game left in me.

**MrNails** · 12-07-16 21:08

When I was younger Thanksgiving was my favorite holiday. Spending time with family was special but the best came later when I would WOBBLE and the wife would GOBBLE.

Then after I was liberated from the b**ch my favorite holiday was Christmas. With all the HO HO HO's around that I could sake my stick at.

Now that I'm older and my health is limiting my activities to have fun on these holidays any longer I had to find a new day to fit my limitations.

And today is the day. Pearl Harbor Day!! I'm lucky enough to find a woman to participate in the reenactment of this special day. I JUST LAY THERE AND SHE BLOWS THE HELL OUT OF ME.

Happy Holidays and be safe. MN.

**ChrisJohnson** · 12-07-16 19:45

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Am posting this here as I obviously can't tell anyone about it in real life.

I was at a work related event recently where I met this one chick for the first time. Petite, cute, tends to say exactly what she thinks. I don't work with her, but there were other people there I have worked with before or do now. We seemed to click from the start, and we were hitting it off more and more as the night progressed. It was clear that if I played my cards right, the panties would be coming off. I wanted it so bad that Mr. Happy was rising to the occasion just from talking to her. But alas, the bigger head prevailed and I did not pursue. I was dangerously close to crapping where I eat and, of course, this chick knew my real name and could find my wife if she wanted to.

Such is the tradeoff with the hobby and real life. The hobby certainly has its dangers, but I never tell anyone my real name in the hobby and its unlikely a provider would go to the trouble of tracking me down or something. Yet, the adrenaline rush I get in the hobby is nothing at all like the adrenaline rush I had clicking with this petite cutie, know what I mean?

Even though I went home with a really blue sack, it was nice to know I still got some game left in me.

Why didn't you quietly sneak her out of there and disappear? Hot story, sorry you didn't think of that.