Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[RogerOver]

Might it be easier to have a thread or post that lists the ones that AREN'T on H?

As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...156&viewfull=1#post3206156.

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.

Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.

So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.

So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:

Kly30.

Blonde kitty.

Brooklyn marie.

Harry.

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[ItsTimeToEat]

I had the opposite problem. Some guy with 5 posts (4 of which were ISO posts seeking a cockhold fantasy), PMed me, telling me he was so-and-so's boyfriend and asked that I STOP seeing her; she happens to be someone I enjoy seeing and have done so multiple times.

Not going to happen unless she asks me to stop patronizing her because I enjoy time with her and I don't know him from Adam so my loyalties are to her and me.

Of course I told her about it next time I saw her and she basically said she had no idea who he was. Then we fucked again and loved it.

I would see her more if someone tried that crap with me and put more effort into it!

[HarryHobbiest]

As mentioned on my Octagon post earlier today here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...156&viewfull=1#post3206156.

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. Instead, I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive as it's now really about our own personal safety.

Interestingly, I've already received PM's from hobbyists with SP names. So, I've decided not to post my own personal observations right now. Instead, as a service to my fellow hobbyists I will post provider names as supplied by you guys via PM. But I won't name your names. That way, the Admins on this site will be able to confirm all I'm doing is relaying received reports from the team via PM.

So, you know a provider who's using but you don't want to report it? PM me and I'll do it for you but I won't report your name. This is not to hurt the SP's (though I know it might do just that). It's to help protect our team.

So far, here are the known H users as PM'd to me from other hobbyists on this board so far:

Kly30.

Blonde kitty.

Brooklyn marie.

Harry.

You won't find anywhere in the rules where it says you're not allowed to talk about drug use among providers. If you see needle tracks or other signs of drug abuse post it.

In the future since you're not moderated if you want to ask a question you should PM me. Unless somebody who is moderated quotes your post I don't see it.

A2

[SilkyWetness]

I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.

I was made aware and totally appreciate the heads up.

[Admin2]

A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:

So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.

What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?

Harry.

You won't find anywhere in the rules where it says you're not allowed to talk about drug use among providers. If you see needle tracks or other signs of drug abuse post it.

In the future since you're not moderated if you want to ask a question you should PM me. Unless somebody who is moderated quotes your post I don't see it.

A2

[D Nut]

I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.

I had the opposite problem. Some guy with 5 posts (4 of which were ISO posts seeking a cockhold fantasy), PMed me, telling me he was so-and-so's boyfriend and asked that I STOP seeing her; she happens to be someone I enjoy seeing and have done so multiple times.

Not going to happen unless she asks me to stop patronizing her because I enjoy time with her and I don't know him from Adam so my loyalties are to her and me.

Of course I told her about it next time I saw her and she basically said she had no idea who he was. Then we fucked again and loved it.

[DrDave39]

100% agree. I would add that SPs who go down this route quickly become unreliable and the quality of service goes down badly. Hygeine and safety as well- more likely to go BB without caring with whom- which, unless you're Anon77, is a bug, not a feature. But mostly I will not knowingly help someone to kill themselves, which is what is so likely to happen. I've been involved in treatment of chronic pain since the 80's, and was a contrary voice when the prevailing wisdom was that people who took opiates for pain wouldn't get addicted. There are times I really hate being right. The problem with opiate addiction vs. Say alcoholism is that "hitting bottom" is fatal more often than not.

Be safe. If you're an SP with a substance abuse problem, please seek help.

The good dr.

[HuntLadys29]

I just had a guy pm me with zero post asking information on a certain provider that has been on here for at 5 years all you have to do is google her name and all you need to know is there. But this guy pms me. I didn't know the name so I checked his posts nothing at all. So suspicious as I am I refused to give him any information oh I forgot this guy even requested a read receipt. I just suspected police or the guy has a nefarious agenda. I wasn't very friendly in my reply as a matter of fact I used some very sharp adjectives at this guy. I will send the provider in question a text to be wary be safe guys. HL29.

[Serhan1978]

I made this choice a while back. And the evidence is very glaring as to who is on the H and who isn't.

Smart move by you. Others should take note.

Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:

ohttp://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3206012

I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3195167

Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).

More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.

It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.

In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.

So what do we hobbyists do?

Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.

I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.

A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:

So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.

What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?

Harry.

[John HandCock]

Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3206012

I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3195167

Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).

More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.

It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.

In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.

So what do we hobbyists do?

Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.

I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.

A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:

So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.

What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?

Harry.

Your beating a dead horse especially when not mentioning that plenty of mongers offer these girls party favors in return for services. Should a clean escort report mongers that try to trade party favors for services?

They will be able to on the new classified site

A2

[HarryHobbiest]

Jenna CL of Dayton is allegedly gone per this post this morning on the Dayton board:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3206012

I've moved this to the more appropriate Octagon and on the Stupid Shit Dayton boards in hopes of best following forum rules here. I think we have a new dilemma as I've hinted in my recent post here:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/sh...=1#post3195167

Though I've never encountered Jenna I'm still moved by her passing. She's as much a victim as Dayton's CL panty girl (Becca?) and the myriad of using SP's that have flashed before our collective eyes and continue to flame-out at a frequency that appears to be weekly (sometimes daily).

More startling is this: many of us know using SPs right fucking now. Many of us continue to see SPs absolutely knowing they're not only supporting an H habit, many know that SP is managing her addiction either at that moment or she's about to head to her local dope boy soon after she's done with you, her money source. In my decades in the hobby and as is the case with so many veteran seniors on this board, we've never seen this death-related hobby phenomenon before: SPs dropping dead resulting from their reason for being in the hobby: H cash generation.

It's no longer to support kids, school, debt from a deadbeat husband, bad decisions, pimp, abusive leech boyfriend, whatever. It's now primarily about H habit support. And it's happened so suddenly in comparison to my years in the hobby. It's not only killing them, our hobby lives are significantly more dangerous as a result. And it's not local to Southwestern ohio. It's everywhere in this nation.

In the past, the worst SPs were doing was smoking crack, snorting meth, of simply toking a doobie (showing my age). But they weren't dying. And now they are. And why are they dying even more now? Because they're believing their dope boys now who are promising them "oh no, I'm keeping a close eye on my H and I promise you it doesn't have any trace of Fentanyl or any other impurities for sure!" Seriously, these users are being told by their suppliers their supplies are clean. And it's killing them. The suppliers need to suffer and they don't. They just find new users.

So what do we hobbyists do?

Here's what I'm going to do. I'm no longer going to engage the H addicts. But what I won't do is post their names here. Board rules are board rules and without this board more hobbyists might also be hurt.

I'm never going to say I "know" an SP is using unless the SP herself has told me (and they do). They do because I simply ask and they sing canary music. They sing because they want empathy and I give it to them as soon as I sense their using because it absolutely helps me properly assess my surroundings while at the same time giving them the opportunity to better focus in our particular moment at the time. Maybe you'd call it a technique. I call it a hobby survival tool. I believe the more you know about an SP when you're in the moment the safer you are when it comes to judging whether or not to stay or go in any situation. So I not only ask. I make sure I know to the best of my ability.

A QUESTION FOR Jackson AND A2, please:

So, assuming I know as having been told by the SP herself, will we board members be violating board rules by offering to share via PM provider names we know are H users?

I'm not trying to start a witch hunt. I'm trying to keep my board brethren safe and alive and no longer be a contributor to a known H user's problem. Why now? Actually a selfish reason: Aside from no longer wanting to support an SP's H habit, it's now really about my own personal safety.

What may I and what may I not say via PM to other board members about H users?

Harry.

[Amon777]

Hahaha on the contrary I have been feeding the unsuspecting girls of cincinnati my green cum. Love having them swallow it all down! Will be posting more reviews when girls fall off the grid. Hehehehe.

He is probably checked into a clinic to keep his green cumming dick from falling off.

[Benji513]

I have had the same problem. I am in decent shape also. I have to use big condoms, but even then it can be difficult to stay fully erect. I have used male enhancement pills. They always say they make you bigger, but I only saw a small gain in size. They do however get more blood flow to your penis. So makes it easier to keep it hard. I used Size Genix. It doesn't work as well as Viagra, but it does work. They do make you more horny, so you need relieved more often.

The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?

[Member #5522]

One of the contributing factors to E. D. Is the fact that condoms are too tight. Try a magnum. Even if you aren't magnum in size, they will stay on. They are larger in diameter and an inch or two longer. SKYN makes a large size too and is latex free.

The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?

[AdamP469]

The older I get the more difficult time I have keeping it up wearing a condom. Any advice?

Have you tried polyurethane condoms instead of latex? Another option could be finding a provider willing to use female condoms. Or how about finding a sugarbaby who is willing to go bareback?