Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[LuvnLivn]

Can't a person try and sign in without getting a template that drop down on a regular basis for SECRET BENEFITS? That is a royal pain in the ass If they want regular advertisement how about buying a banner that people click on without the BS template dropping down almost everytime a person tries to log in. Just saying, buy a banner and stop this CH*T.

I'm guessing the pop up ad is a big money maker for the hosting site. It's on just about every escort's personal site as well as EE's. Must be worth it to the site owners to help them pay the bills. I just have my other thumb ready to close it whenever I know it's coming.

LL.

[BigMack]

Can't a person try and sign in without getting a template that drop down on a regular basis for SECRET BENEFITS? That is a royal pain in the ass If they want regular advertisement how about buying a banner that people click on without the BS template dropping down almost everytime a person tries to log in. Just saying, buy a banner and stop this CH*T.

[WillyWonk]

I didn't know where to put this so here it is. I was seeing Nisha for 1 to 2 times a week for 2 months straight when I texted her and nothing, crickets. 2 weeks later she says she is fine just can't hangout for awhile. It has been since end of February since I've heard from her. I'm just checking to make sure that everything is cool with her. If anyone has any info on her please PM me. Thanks.

I would like to reunite wit her.

[Addiction69]

Really? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.

No, well good. This has been interesting reading all the posts. I have taken a break from the hobby for a bit to pursue the other kind of pay for play sex. The kind that expect dates and flowers and shit. For the record, I saw that Hannah claims A2 threatened to say she has aids and he did not. And the most comical part to me was reading that review that Hannah wrote for herself. I am curious who she turns down to see her considering her "review" was written to sound like some country yokel, I pictured a 45-55 year old sweaty fat ass typing on a commodore 64 computer in his parents barn "converted into his bachelor apartment".

Also for the record, I don't buy girls flowers and don't take them to expensive restaurants until I have sex with them multiple times, so that way I'm not paying up front. I can say though that one of the benefits of the traditional pay for play, is when you are done, you don't have to deal with the endless phone texting messages and hate mail when you don't respond to these women that fall in love with you.

[Vinnie Kramer]

Funny enough, I was on a provider website the other day and not only did she have numbers she has blacklisted but names too!

I googled a few and some came back with matches and company related websites! Scary.

Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).

Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.

[IlvblckGrls]

Has anyone ever Googled their mongering phone number before? Thalia recently showed me her phone app. It includes reviews of phone numbers. Sometime last year, a girl posted that I get angry if the rates are too high. It's weird to see that because I have had girls get mad at me when I've said they are too expensive, but I've never gotten angry about a rate. (Maybe disappointed, but not angry! LOL.).

Anyway, it makes me wonder if *some* of the crickets I've received are because girls saw that "review" of my number.

[Ferrari1977]

I didn't know where to put this so here it is. I was seeing Nisha for 1 to 2 times a week for 2 months straight when I texted her and nothing, crickets. 2 weeks later she says she is fine just can't hangout for awhile. It has been since end of February since I've heard from her. I'm just checking to make sure that everything is cool with her. If anyone has any info on her please PM me. Thanks.

[MisforMaster]

You can spoof an IP to be different when it's coming from the same person but when it's the same for two people who are claiming to be different that are posting within minutes of each other then either.

1. Somebody is catfishing.

2. I can't think of anything else to put as number two so I guess all I got is somebody is catfishing.

A2.

It's quite possibly it's two different people, living in the same house, behind a wireless access point. But, if that's the case, that still doesn't make the situation any better: it's review manipulation / fraud.

Bring out the Clorox. Bleach it clean.

[MisforMaster]

But in the end, most escorts are in it mainly due to drugs. My guesstimate is 85%.

I've been doing this for 5 years now (and fuck, that's really. Scary to say).

I think I've met three providers who were not doing it for the drugs, and I've probably hit the 100 provider count in the US this year. One was doing it because she had a shopping addiction and a shit-ton of court costs / fines to pay off, one was doing it because her boyfriend was pushing her to do it, and the last one did it just because she liked to fuck and knew she could get paid for it.

On the Sugarbaby side, I know at least 80% of the girls that I have had an arrangement with that was more than just a pump-and-dump have openly talked about some type of substance abuse problem; in Miami, it was cocaine -- in the two years I was down in Miami I only met a single woman who wasn't on cocaine and she was, by far, the most boring sugar baby of them all. Sweet as hell, great heart, but, I'm not trying to get married (but, she was).

[UOnlyLiveOnce]

This is in response to posts in another thread about whether providers are on drugs. I have not seen the two particular providers referenced in recent posts in the USA thread, so I can't speak to that. I don't think 100% of providers in general are using hard drugs. But I think most are. With streetwalkers, the percentage is probably 99%. I don't think the number is as high with escorts, but I think it's a high percentage.

In the 7 years I've been in the hobby this time around, I've seen maybe a couple who were just genuine freaks. Once in a great while, I suspect fast cash is the main motivation, for reasons other than drugs. Providers fitting that description don't normally stay around long.

In other cases, and probably in more cases than I suspect, the main motivation is a boyfriend. The fact is, chicks dig bad boys, and the list of what chicks will tolerate from them and do for their benefit is almost endless. If you pair a troubled chick with a bad boy who has a lot of charisma or is just a serious badass, it's not a stretch to think that a subset of these chicks can be persuaded to drop their panties for strange men at the Red Roof Inn while he sponges off her earnings to pay his latest court fines and chases other women on the side.

But in the end, most escorts are in it mainly due to drugs. My guesstimate is 85%.

[SinsinnatiToy]

IP's are to confirm not discover as evidenced by the posts below. If you read the posts below they all read as if they were written by the same person. The theme is the same, the manic pacing the same, the tone is the same, they are obviously written by the same person AND when they are all posted from the same IP in the space of two hours AND the person has a history of catfishing AND when they did the same thing with the reported posts (multiple users reporting or referencing the same posts from the same IP within short periods of time) THEN I am perfectly happy saying in my opinion they are coming from the same person. People can hide all kinds of stuff but what's really hard to change is what they are saying and how they say. It's the content that leads me to serial antagonists and you can't mask that because if the massage changes and I don't need to be involved then it's just one less thing and I could give a shit who they "used to be" in the forum.

Like IP addresses browser fingerprinting is less reliable in the negative than the positive. I have 5 different browsers on my laptop and three on my phone (testing) so if the browser fingerprint doesn't match that doesn't mean it's not the same person but when it does, then it does.

If I was on the jury then I would vote guilty as charged that she is fake posting and it is up to each monger to make their own minds up and make their own decisions concerning her. Personally her need for pictures to verify would be a deal killer anyway, this just takes it to another level.

ST.

[Admin2]

Not to get nitpicky, but IP addresses aren't the end-all-be-all for determining duplicate accounts. The time frame they show up means something, but most admins wouldn't just accept that as absolute proof. There's plenty of other options, like user-agent or referrer strings etc. Heck, even browser fingerprinting these days if you use the same browser with the same extensions, blah blah.

I do believe I saw something from A2 on another forum telling the users they ran someone off before he could build up some data on them. So it's more than IP address.

IP's are to confirm not discover as evidenced by the posts below. If you read the posts below they all read as if they were written by the same person. The theme is the same, the manic pacing the same, the tone is the same, they are obviously written by the same person AND when they are all posted from the same IP in the space of two hours AND the person has a history of catfishing AND when they did the same thing with the reported posts (multiple users reporting or referencing the same posts from the same IP within short periods of time) THEN I am perfectly happy saying in my opinion they are coming from the same person. People can hide all kinds of stuff but what's really hard to change is what they are saying and how they say. It's the content that leads me to serial antagonists and you can't mask that because if the massage changes and I don't need to be involved then it's just one less thing and I could give a shit who they "used to be" in the forum.

Like IP addresses browser fingerprinting is less reliable in the negative than the positive. I have 5 different browsers on my laptop and three on my phone (testing) so if the browser fingerprint doesn't match that doesn't mean it's not the same person but when it does, then it does.

Really? Your threatening a provider publicly? At least guys will know now all the hate on Hannah is from guys like you. Only guys she will turn down have a problem with her, but you a site admin threatening to edit her posts to say she robs people and has AIDS? Your a disgrace. Like these girls arent dealing with enough. Please. Everyone comment. I am curious to know other opinions on this keyboard warrior.

Hannah by far. But theres the pic thing. And she's picky but if shell see you. She is pretty great. Ignore hateful comments. Try for yourself. Won't be dissappointed.

Hey guys its Hannah. I know he will delete this asap but hopefully enough will get to read it. So this admin2 on here is bulling me. He thinks I am self reviewing and I promise I am not. Hes probably fat and pissed I'm so picky LOL. Whatever the reason he has threatened to edit my posts to say I have aids! And now has publicly threatened to state that I rob people and have crabs! All because he insists I'm self reviewing and I am certainly not. Just wanted to call him out publicly. Lets see if he is man enough to respond or if he just deletes this. We shall see.

Anyone want proof text me and I will send screenshots of his harassment.

[RogerOver]

IP addresses don't lie.

If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.

I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.

By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.

I don't know if she understands who A2 is. You can try and bs all you want, but, you are right sir, IP's don't lie.

Not to get nitpicky, but IP addresses aren't the end-all-be-all for determining duplicate accounts. The time frame they show up means something, but most admins wouldn't just accept that as absolute proof. There's plenty of other options, like user-agent or referrer strings etc. Heck, even browser fingerprinting these days if you use the same browser with the same extensions, blah blah.

I do believe I saw something from A2 on another forum telling the users they ran someone off before he could build up some data on them. So it's more than IP address.

[Admin2]

IP addresses don't lie.

You can spoof an IP to be different when it's coming from the same person but when it's the same for two people who are claiming to be different that are posting within minutes of each other then either.

1. Somebody is catfishing.

2. I can't think of anything else to put as number two so I guess all I got is somebody is catfishing.

A2.

[Vinnie Kramer]

Not to mention if she gets this bat-shit crazy about this topic, imagine what she does with your pic when you piss her off!

IP addresses don't lie.

If Hannah and Michael45 aren't the same person, Michael45 must be her husband, BF, Handler or Pimp.

I give Admin2 some credit for not having simply banned both members. That is what other sites do.

By letting this drama play out publicly Hannah and her non-Senior WKs posting fake reviews and blasting Admin2 just makes her less attractive to potential customers. When she stops getting calls you just might see her walking WPH.