Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[ThatGuy011]

I may have touched on pricing, but I have different scales, for different types of providers and reasons I see or don't see them.

I have only used an advertiser once, and I wrote about it, got her for a nice BBBJ for. 40 the first time, and kind of figured she may not be the normal 'advertiser' types during that visit. Got a return visit for. 15.

I don't particularly care for advertiser types because of many stories here, and it seems that games happen more frequently, and bait and switch is also a thing. It also seems that unenthusiastic performances, time robbing, non-performing, and shit attitudes permeate advertiser types. And the fact that many seem to want everything covered. I understand CFS, but not CBJ. That's something coming from me, because literally all I want is a BBBJ and FS; no kissing, hugging, snuggling, GFE, or pleasuring her. I don't even like fake sex noises. Light conversation is as much as I really can even stand and that's if it happens naturally. So IMO, what they think they are providing by offering 'companionship' is lost on me.

I would pay them more than a SW if they look better than a typical SW, and have a good incall, but not 3-6 X what a SW want. This is past the golden age, and golden age or not. 20 on the street and 30 if she has a place to go to is my max. And that's higher than when I lived in Hamilton by a main drag, and could look out the door, see a fresh looking 19 year old, beckon her, and start a long term thing that usually ending with her bothering me almost daily to make money, and agreeing to like 10 for whatever and at the time it was BBBJ and BBFS all day. Now days A provider that at least looks like I would date her if she wasn't a hooker, could be worth 1. 5,2 x what an average SW is worth to me.

But that said, I don't NEED the services of any girl. I will go for as cheap as they will do it, and yes, every time, I will do it for less and less if possible, and they have worked for less and less without fail.

There was a post I made about how cheap I got those nice young girls in Hamilton for super cheap before the heroin thing. Some guy got on his soapbox about how he could afford to pay more, when that wasn't the point. If you will give a girl $100 for a CBJ, that will be the same girl that would give me BBBJ and FS for $20 while saying "I usually get like $100 for this. " Right after the tip slides in. Yeah. From someone that isn't me. I mean I got a rare find in UPH the other day that I wrote about, she said the same thing. Another factor. Alot of these girls would probably fuck me anyway of we met in other circumstances. I'm sure they would be more likely to stick to those normal rates if I looked like I 'needed' to monger. Not saying I'm the best but when you hook, you're usually doing stuff to / with people that nobody wants to touch, so those of us are probably a breath of fresh air.

The only time I approach close to advertiser prices are with AMP's because there is a 40-60 door charge that adds to whatever you do with the girl. I don't know if it's any better deal per se than advertiser girls, but at least I have gotten everything BB with AMP ladies, and there is none of the attitude or 'I don't want to be here' type of feeling, that I hear a lot of people write about with incall / outcall girls. Also if there wasnt a house fee, it'd be a better deal easily.

[IlvblckGrls]

What a comparison. LOL I always say if a provider can make you feel like you belong to her or like she really cares regardless of any other factors she's a keeper! With that being said As luvblk stated Thalia's "customer service" "people skills" whatever you want to call it is 100% better than most. She's always had a yes attitude and has a pretty open menu that plus her personality in my opinion is worth everything but to each it's own more Thalia for me!!

Yeah, I guess using "meat" as a comparison might be offensive. Not what I meant! LOL. So I'm sorry if Thalia is reading. If I had met her instead of Rene, my time in the hobby would be so much better!

[R Dangerfield]

"A kind word goes a long way"

In all my travails with sex workers, only one sent me a text right after the deed. It seemed kind, polite, and it actually made me feel like a real person (and not a creep). I had just started up my car when I look down and saw, "Rodney, thank you for today. It was a lot of fun and you are a kind man!" Bullshit? Of course! Did she send the same message to all her clients? Betcha she did! I saw her often after that. She just made me feet good. If you send a text immediately following your appointment, you seem to have no hidden agenda, and to many, this reeks of sincerity!

[WillieWanka]

I tried to start a discussion about pricing in the Octagon, but it barely went anywhere. Why do you think Thalia charges too much? What do you think are reasonable rates?

For example, I used to pay Rene. 6 for QV. I thought that seemed reasonable. She's not GFE, no kissing, CBJ, CFS. I couldn't figure out how to spend more time with her since her menu is so limited. But she was my first, and for a long time she seemed special to me for that reason. She told me she was retiring, so I went to see her one last time. She got a bit of an attitude. I guess she'd seen my reviews of Thalia on here, and she said she wasn't charging me enough. (I think maybe. 6 was actually too generous.) But there is a HUGE difference between Rene's service and Thalia's. Rene is like a McDouble, and Thalia is like Terry's Turf Club. LOL.

When I met Diamond, she charged more than Rene. She's way hotter than Rene, and she let me kiss her.

Then when I met Thalia, she seemed on another level with regards to customer service. I'm curious what other guys think is reasonable for what kind of service.

What a comparison. LOL I always say if a provider can make you feel like you belong to her or like she really cares regardless of any other factors she's a keeper! With that being said As luvblk stated Thalia's "customer service" "people skills" whatever you want to call it is 100% better than most. She's always had a yes attitude and has a pretty open menu that plus her personality in my opinion is worth everything but to each it's own more Thalia for me!!

[HuntLadys29]

I tried to start a discussion about pricing in the Octagon, but it barely went anywhere. Why do you think Thalia charges too much? What do you think are reasonable rates?

For example, I used to pay Rene. 6 for QV. I thought that seemed reasonable. She's not GFE, no kissing, CBJ, CFS. I couldn't figure out how to spend more time with her since her menu is so limited. But she was my first, and for a long time she seemed special to me for that reason. She told me she was retiring, so I went to see her one last time. She got a bit of an attitude. I guess she'd seen my reviews of Thalia on here, and she said she wasn't charging me enough. (I think maybe. 6 was actually too generous.) But there is a HUGE difference between Rene's service and Thalia's. Rene is like a McDouble, and Thalia is like Terry's Turf Club. LOL.

When I met Diamond, she charged more than Rene. She's way hotter than Rene, and she let me kiss her.

Then when I met Thalia, she seemed on another level with regards to customer service. I'm curious what other guys think is reasonable for what kind of service.

She told me there was no qv I paid 100 for covered BJ and cfs which I didn't even get off. I never saw Renee again. QV should be. 60 or less. Anything over 15-20 min is a waste for me I can't and don't do multiple pops and I can take care of my business in that time frame. These girls say 1 hour msog and they know most guys can't bust more than 1 time in an hour. As far as customer service blow me bang me and let me play for 20 minutes and I'll think that's great customer service. These girls should be rich by now I'd love to make 60 - 100 dollars per hour at my job. HL29.

[Hooter12]

Doesn't really matter what others pay or are asked to pay. What matters is what you are comfortable with paying for whatever you are seeking. And if the ROI was worth it. Everyone has their own prespective.

I agree. I think its funny when I see someone on here proposing to boycott a provider because she wants "too much" or that those that pay are just encouraging others to raise their rates. I have posted on here that I thought someone was asking too much. That is, more than what I thought I would give for that provider, or had in the past. But I have also said that if that provider is now getting the higher rate, then good for them. The provider has their rates. If they get enough business to satisfy their needs at their rate, then their rate is just right. If they don't then they, and only they, can decide if their rate is too high. A providers rate is only relevant to an individual monger that is either willing or not willing to pay that rate. You can say that in your opinion, for you, that providers rate is too high. We have no right to dictate in blanket statement that a provider is asking too much. I see some providers on here I would never pay what they are getting from other mongers and those mongers say they are worth it. Then the provider is worth it. To them. A providers rates are their decision and theirs alone. We have to option to pay or not pay. That's it.

[Eajry]

I've seen her six times and communications is my only critique. It is hot and cold. Luckily I'm in her area and don't t waste time if she goes silent. It has happened twice in seven times. Once never heard back at arrival and once delayed but connected eventually. She is so much fun to be with I accept it as a minor inconvenience.

You know? I probably would give little to no fucks if it wasn't 40 minutes for me. Like 5-10 minutes? Shit you go silent on me I wouldn't even have to leave or waste any time whatsoever. But consistently wasting several hours is, well, you know, of all the things that could be done- time wasted is my biggest concern. It's really the only thing that gets to me, at work, off of work, with a woman, especially if its completely avoidable. I probably take it waaaay to personally, whatever. Honestly its worth a visit but I should probably learn to keep expectations way lower, I just do not enjoy "shopping around", it's not my style whatsoever, but I guess I need to have at least 2-3 consistent for situations like this. Take the shit I said with a grain of salt, the communication is awful, but is also spot on occasionally like previous said. I don't really think I've enjoyed myself more out there though than with this one (Shev), so I'm sure most normal people would just accept it for what it is. Good luck out there folks.

[WanderingAbout]

Doesn't really matter what others pay or are asked to pay. What matters is what you are comfortable with paying for whatever you are seeking. And if the ROI was worth it. Everyone has their own prespective.

I tried to start a discussion about pricing in the Octagon, but it barely went anywhere. Why do you think Thalia charges too much? What do you think are reasonable rates?

For example, I used to pay Rene. 6 for QV. I thought that seemed reasonable. She's not GFE, no kissing, CBJ, CFS. I couldn't figure out how to spend more time with her since her menu is so limited. But she was my first, and for a long time she seemed special to me for that reason. She told me she was retiring, so I went to see her one last time. She got a bit of an attitude. I guess she'd seen my reviews of Thalia on here, and she said she wasn't charging me enough. (I think maybe. 6 was actually too generous.) But there is a HUGE difference between Rene's service and Thalia's. Rene is like a McDouble, and Thalia is like Terry's Turf Club. LOL.

When I met Diamond, she charged more than Rene. She's way hotter than Rene, and she let me kiss her.

Then when I met Thalia, she seemed on another level with regards to customer service. I'm curious what other guys think is reasonable for what kind of service.

[IlvblckGrls]

She charges to much for a hhr.

I tried to start a discussion about pricing in the Octagon, but it barely went anywhere. Why do you think Thalia charges too much? What do you think are reasonable rates?

For example, I used to pay Rene. 6 for QV. I thought that seemed reasonable. She's not GFE, no kissing, CBJ, CFS. I couldn't figure out how to spend more time with her since her menu is so limited. But she was my first, and for a long time she seemed special to me for that reason. She told me she was retiring, so I went to see her one last time. She got a bit of an attitude. I guess she'd seen my reviews of Thalia on here, and she said she wasn't charging me enough. (I think maybe. 6 was actually too generous.) But there is a HUGE difference between Rene's service and Thalia's. Rene is like a McDouble, and Thalia is like Terry's Turf Club. LOL.

When I met Diamond, she charged more than Rene. She's way hotter than Rene, and she let me kiss her.

Then when I met Thalia, she seemed on another level with regards to customer service. I'm curious what other guys think is reasonable for what kind of service.

[Sad Sack]

F. why. I. She is the mother of a well known provider who used to do this for a living. She's a sweet lady. But a little to old for me. LOL I don't do grandmothers. But I fucked the daughter a ton of times back in the day.

Stange, I must have missed the review (s) that you posted about all the times you were with her daughter.

[Benonem]

Any guys like to share number or info on ladies on the Eastside (Amelia Williamsburg bethel etc).

[R Dangerfield]

I am going to call myself Rodney Dangerfield. I just can't get any respect. It seems that all my posts are rails on providers, or common sense suggestions how a provider might be a better provider. This is all meant to be taken constructively. The following is this monger's strong opinion. If any of you brothers think I am being too kind to the ladies, I am being way too kind! I don't want to start any discussions on anything. If you agree with something that I post, please pass it on!

"Honey, see you soon!".

Let's face it. I have taken time to give myself an appropriate monger moniker, Hamilton Joe or ThreeInchWonder. Whether your name is Bubbles, DaddiesGirl, or HugeClit, I understand that you don't want me to know who you really are! When a waitress calls me darlin', she is taking care of 5 tables with 4 people at each table. I have not even told her my name! When I pick up a *****, she gets in the car and says "want to party, sweetie?" I am probably paying you $100 or more, and I have told you my name. I don't want a *****. I want an experience! Honey, take a suggestion, don't text me and call me sweetie. It just makes you look like a *****; and it makes me feel like someone who fraternizes with ******.

"You smell so nice!".

Please do not wear perfume or have perfume smells (even scented candles) in your room. If you completely wash your mouth out, your arm pits, your asshole, and your pussy just before you see me. That would be great. Nothing smells better than clean. I am not so stupid that I don't know that candles do mask many smells. If I smell a scented candle in your room, I only can think that later on my hair will probably have some kind of stank on it. Nothing smells better than fresh and clean. Most of the men that see you cannot take home your perfume smell.

"Respect my time! PART A".

A tip to mongers. Bring your own covers! 'Nuff said! And to providers, you are charging for a service. You need supplies: covers, wipes, towels, sheets, lube, lotions, soaps, mouthwash. To be remiss here is just plain stoopid!

I am paying a lot of money and spending much time just to be with you. As it states in every ad, I am buying your time. Please respect my time and never ask me to pick you up drinks, cigs, rubbers, or anything that might be purchased in a Walmart. And don't ask me to drop you off somewhere. I don't have the time. There may be personal items in my car that I don't want you to see. I definitely don't want any extra smells in my car. My time is valuable and limited. Even if you have an emergency, please have it on someone else's time; please do not ask for anything that would take any extra time. Remember: I am not paying you for sex. I am paying you for your time when I want it, (That is why I make an appointment.) and I am paying you so I can leave when I want. (My time is always limited.).

[TMeister]

So anyway, I get there and walk in and OMG she was fucking ugly. Had a banging body, but ugly as a mud fence. Kinda reminded me of the ugly Jessica rabbit version. So I made up a lie and ran to the car and popped a blue pill. I proceeded to fuck her for the next 6-7 hours. It wasn't bad but would have been better with a paper bag for her head. Eventually I got tired of banging her and acted like I was falling asleep on the couch. Wouldn't you know it the power of the blue pill wouldn't stop and I hard a raging hardon still. So she was kneeling by the couch stroking it saying " come on he loves me he is still so hard". I just remember thinking, lady you have no idea, the little guy is under the influence and doesn't really like you at all.

LOL well I had a few of the ole buttaface encounters from those AOL chat rooms as well. I was never a picky fella when it comes to the quickie bang bang but a few of them were so ugly I just couldn't bring myself to fuck them. The one girl was a serious tweaker with BO so I entered her apartment and said "Hi" and "goodbye" literally within a span of 45 seconds. The other was a sweet college girl with a face only her mother could love, so we sat on my couch and watched a movie and I told myself if my dick even gets 75 percent hard I will take her to the bedroom and pump her hole. Not a chance, my little buddy stayed in turtle mode the entire time. One girl I actually went through with told me she was recently fired from her job and hard up for money, so I made her a deal that if she licked whipped cream off my dick and gave me a good BJ I would give her $100 cash. She agreed and I stopped at the grocery store to pick up whipped cream in a can and proceeded to her apartment. With zero enthusiasm, she actually did lick about 5 or 6 sprays of whip cream off my tip but then started giving me the worst BJ I ever had, lots of stops and pauses and weird looks on her face like she never sucked a cock before. I think I actually might have been her first. Became very awkward and I asked her if I could just stroke myself off on her face. She says "eww, no" and let me spray my load all over her neck and boobs. I ended up only giving her $50 and suggested she practice slurping on a banana because she is never going to find a boyfriend with her skills.

I got tons of stories about the AOL chat rooms from the years 1996 to 2003. Those were crazy fun times online and it was all FREE.

[RajReddy]

Since more often than not I come across disappointment than meeting an actual person, I was hoping to post these "NOT Reviews". More of things that could have happened but didn't.

NR1 - NKY.

I texted her in the morning and setup time to meet her later in the evening (after work). There was no response from her when I texted her later, I drove 20 miles anticipating we will be able to meet but it didn't happen.

She was not waiting for me in a black dress and didn't greet me with a kiss on the lips. She didn't ask me to feel comfortable and didn't offer any refreshments. As the evening passed by, we didn't engage in a casual conversation about current affairs, interest in FIFA world cup or the recent changes in the city. She didn't also take off my clothes slowly while we were chatting. Slowly and steadily she didn't play with the 'juniors' nor did she give me a great BBBJ.

We slowly didn't move into a more comfortable position out of couch on to her bed. I also did not dine at the V while she was not taking care of me with her soft lips and a deep throat. We slowly didn't move into a CG position and eventually didn't finish in MISH. She didn't offer me a warm towel to clean up. We didn't go back to couch to talk more & This is when I didn't set my next scheduled with her. I didn't bid my farewell; I also didn't roll down my windows and didn't admire the beautiful city while driving back.

I hope this "NOT review" helps fellow mongers who like me may not be able to have a dream.

[TheBigEzee]

Anyone want to start a thread about AOL chat room encounters from the late 90's thru early 2000's? I got some good stories from those memorable times.

Those chat rooms were high yield for easy pussy. Kinda like fishing with dynamite. Like I said earlier, I was hitting them hard from 1996 to 2000 and probably banged close to 30 girls and BJ from another 30 on top of that. And that was just in between gf's since I was in my 20's and into that stuff.

I had manyadventures, from New York to Louisiana to Washington state to Philadelphia and here in Cincinnati.

The one in Philadelphia was a treat. Was chatting for like 20 minutes and was on my way to her. About 1 1/2 hour away. I grabbed a 12 pack and a bottle of wine and headed her way. I had viagra in the car and only used them recreationally as I didn't need it to get hard, only used them to stay hard for hours on end and for almost instant recovery.

So anyway, I get there and walk in and OMG she was fucking ugly. Had a banging body, but ugly as a mud fence. Kinda reminded me of the ugly Jessica rabbit version. So I made up a lie and ran to the car and popped a blue pill. I proceeded to fuck her for the next 6-7 hours. It wasn't bad but would have been better with a paper bag for her head. Eventually I got tired of banging her and acted like I was falling asleep on the couch. Wouldn't you know it the power of the blue pill wouldn't stop and I hard a raging hardon still. So she was kneeling by the couch stroking it saying " come on he loves me he is still so hard". I just remember thinking, lady you have no idea, the little guy is under the influence and doesn't really like you at all.

Damn I miss AOL. Chat rooms.