Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Vinnie Kramer** · 06-30-18 01:32

Exact same experience here.

Originally Posted by JustTry [View Original Post]

I was hoping to let the issue die but you want to keep adding fuel to the fire. Did I pm you with info? Yes. Did you request more? Yes. Did I give you more info? Yes I told you exactly what I know about her. You requested more again. You began arguing with others about being better than the rest. I looked at your posts and saw lots of anger and negativity in them. You also posted that you had been with her which I found odd because you asked me if she were black or white. When were you telling the truth? I then let her know of your pms so she could decide whether or not to see you. I was only looking out for a top notch provider. I hope others might do the same. There aren't many good ones and I want all of us to stay safe. Sorry if I broke some sacred trust on sharing pms if I think something is off with them. I can't believe it got so out of hand and I'm finished discussing this anymore.

JustTry.

**Dgwkpe** · 06-29-18 23:03

Any details on what happened or who he was talking to that got him in trouble? Just trying to stay safe.

Originally Posted by Admin2 [View Original Post]

So now I'm going to put it right out in front. If you come on this site and within a month of being here you are giving people you don't know your motherfucking phone number in order to engage in illegal behavior and the cops end up knocking on your door do not fucking blame this site for getting busted.

It's like the fucking pedo, he didn't get busted for picking up a hooker, he got busted for crossing a state line to fuck somebody he thought was super young. He thought that because they told him that. Want to guess what happened to the guys who they tried to do the same shit to that said "what, no fucking way" when they were told what the age was?

Yeah, nothing happened to them.

You don't blame the paper for the content that is written on it. Do you think the people who used to run stings on Craigslist or Backpage but can't anymore because they are closed lost their jobs?

A2.

**KidKuddi** · 06-29-18 22:57

Originally Posted by YUM69 [View Original Post]

Hey KidKuddi, I tried sending you PM's but your inbox is full. I was 90% full yesterday and had to delete some PM's myself. Do senior members get more space in their inbox? How many posts or how much time is needed to become a senior member, anyway? .

I will erase a few my dude, I also tried to send 1 back today and it said yours was full. LOL looks like we both got to delete.

**FortunateSon1** · 06-29-18 22:43

Originally Posted by YUM69 [View Original Post]

Hey KidKuddi, I tried sending you PM's but your inbox is full. I was 90% full yesterday and had to delete some PM's myself. Do senior members get more space in their inbox? How many posts or how much time is needed to become a senior member, anyway? .

I believe the equation is.

6 months + 25 posts - Pissing A2 off = Senior.

**Admin2** · 06-29-18 17:59

So now I'm going to put it right out in front. If you come on this site and within a month of being here you are giving people you don't know your motherfucking phone number in order to engage in illegal behavior and the cops end up knocking on your door do not fucking blame this site for getting busted.

It's like the fucking pedo, he didn't get busted for picking up a hooker, he got busted for crossing a state line to fuck somebody he thought was super young. He thought that because they told him that. Want to guess what happened to the guys who they tried to do the same shit to that said "what, no fucking way" when they were told what the age was?

Yeah, nothing happened to them.

You don't blame the paper for the content that is written on it. Do you think the people who used to run stings on Craigslist or Backpage but can't anymore because they are closed lost their jobs?

A2.

**Benonem** · 06-29-18 16:20

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You are sooooooo full of shit, It wasn't this site that got you busted it was you telling people from this site who the fuck you really are after having been here a month.

Do not fucking blame us for your stupidity and lack of judgement.

Fuck off

A2

**RogerOver** · 06-29-18 11:22

Originally Posted by KidKuddi [View Original Post]

I AGREE a lot of them are shitty people, but the flip side to that is I'm sure they will say the same thing about us. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE THING THAT GUYS ON HERE NEED TO REMEMBER AND NEVER FORGET YET ALOT DO is this: "IT'S ALWAYS IS, WAS, AND WILL BE ABOUT THE MONEY. Expect that going in, and you won't ever be disappointed when they act or do shitty things. They will give you shout outs on here saying thanks and praise about the visits, tell you your the nicest guy, or your so funny, or you fucked them sooooo good they came 3 times and was exhausted etc but they just want you to come back and see them again cause they want that money, bills are do, rent is do, kids need school cloths, they need drugs, they boyfriend need bail. They can fuck for nothing in they personal life, MONEY MAKES people say and do crazy things, and that's why hookers do this, stop trying to meet dates, talk buddies, hangout buddies, cuddling buddies, and just go and fuck them! THATS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR, if you expect that.

Unreadable words of wisdom from a dumb fuck. Complete with all caps in just the right places.

**YUM69** · 06-29-18 10:02

Originally Posted by KidKuddi [View Original Post]

I AGREE a lot of them are shitty people, but the flip side to that is I'm sure they will say the same thing about us. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE THING THAT GUYS ON HERE NEED TO REMEMBER AND NEVER FORGET YET ALOT DO is this: "IT'S ALWAYS IS, WAS, AND WILL BE ABOUT THE MONEY. Expect that going in, and you won't ever be disappointed when they act or do shitty things. They will give you shout outs on here saying thanks and praise about the visits, tell you your the nicest guy, or your so funny, or you fucked them sooooo good they came 3 times and was exhausted etc but they just want you to come back and see them again cause they want that money, bills are do, rent is do, kids need school cloths, they need drugs, they boyfriend need bail. They can fuck for nothing in they personal life, MONEY MAKES people say and do crazy things, and that's why hookers do this, stop trying to meet dates, talk buddies, hangout buddies, cuddling buddies, and just go and fuck them! THATS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR, if you expect that.

Hey KidKuddi, I tried sending you PM's but your inbox is full. I was 90% full yesterday and had to delete some PM's myself. Do senior members get more space in their inbox? How many posts or how much time is needed to become a senior member, anyway? .

**JustTry** · 06-29-18 08:16

I was hoping to let the issue die but you want to keep adding fuel to the fire. Did I pm you with info? Yes. Did you request more? Yes. Did I give you more info? Yes I told you exactly what I know about her. You requested more again. You began arguing with others about being better than the rest. I looked at your posts and saw lots of anger and negativity in them. You also posted that you had been with her which I found odd because you asked me if she were black or white. When were you telling the truth? I then let her know of your pms so she could decide whether or not to see you. I was only looking out for a top notch provider. I hope others might do the same. There aren't many good ones and I want all of us to stay safe. Sorry if I broke some sacred trust on sharing pms if I think something is off with them. I can't believe it got so out of hand and I'm finished discussing this anymore.

JustTry.

**JustTry** · 06-29-18 07:54

KidKuddi, I tried to let this go but you want to keep adding fuel to the fire. Did I pm you with info? Yes. Did you request more info? Yes. Did I give you what I know about her? Yes. Did you request even more? Yes. I told you what I knew and you kept asking for more. Very specific. You then began talking on the forums like you were better than the rest of us. I looked at your posts and saw negativity in most things you posted. When you claimed to have seen her, you obviously were lying or you wouldn't have asked if she were black or white for starters. I did let her know of your pms because she is a top notch provider and might want to think twice before seeing you. I'm sorry if looking out for a quality provider is so horrible. I don't think I am the only one who would look out for one of their favorites. I agree, this should not have gotten to the point it did. I really don't want to discuss this further with you. Hopefully we can move on.

JustTry.

**JustACustomer** · 06-29-18 01:19

Originally Posted by ThatGuy011 [View Original Post]

Just remember at the end of the day, 99% of hookers are shitty people. There should be no expectation of anything else.

There are shitty people in every profession, your profession being no exception, whatever it is!

Personally, I like the mature providers. They got their shit together and generally provide good service.

As always, YMMV.

JAC.

**KidKuddi** · 06-29-18 00:01

Originally Posted by ThatGuy011 [View Original Post]

Just remember at the end of the day, 99% of hookers are shitty people. There should be no expectation of anything else.

I AGREE a lot of them are shitty people, but the flip side to that is I'm sure they will say the same thing about us. AT THE END OF THE DAY THE THING THAT GUYS ON HERE NEED TO REMEMBER AND NEVER FORGET YET ALOT DO is this: "IT'S ALWAYS IS, WAS, AND WILL BE ABOUT THE MONEY. Expect that going in, and you won't ever be disappointed when they act or do shitty things. They will give you shout outs on here saying thanks and praise about the visits, tell you your the nicest guy, or your so funny, or you fucked them sooooo good they came 3 times and was exhausted etc but they just want you to come back and see them again cause they want that money, bills are do, rent is do, kids need school cloths, they need drugs, they boyfriend need bail. They can fuck for nothing in they personal life, MONEY MAKES people say and do crazy things, and that's why hookers do this, stop trying to meet dates, talk buddies, hangout buddies, cuddling buddies, and just go and fuck them! THATS WHAT THEY ARE HERE FOR, if you expect that.

**ThatGuy011** · 06-28-18 18:41

Just remember at the end of the day, 99% of hookers are shitty people. There should be no expectation of anything else.

**Jeh123** · 06-28-18 17:09

Originally Posted by VinnieKramer [View Original Post]

If the miscreants you refer to had the skills to run a business, do you think this is what they would focus their talent on?

Sure a very small few approach it this way, but most have far different motivations (demons) driving this entrepreneurial choice.

Happiness is a matter of calibrating expectations with reality. If you do this, you won't be so frustrated with the inherent lack of discipline from certain service providers.

Being somewhat timely and able to answer a phone, which when we are there seems part of their anatomy, are not hard things to do. They are all quite good with understanding prycing and negotiations, just not the really simple stuff that could get them repeats and reduce exposure. And be open and honest. Running late may not be their fault if they are entrtaining. Like I said, the good ones, the ones I repeat with, have some understanding of our time not just theirs.

**RogerOver** · 06-28-18 15:49

Originally Posted by VinnieKramer [View Original Post]

If the miscreants you refer to had the skills to run a business, do you think this is what they would focus their talent on?

Sure a very small few approach it this way, but most have far different motivations (demons) driving this entrepreneurial choice.

Happiness is a matter of calibrating expectations with reality. If you do this, you won't be so frustrated with the inherent lack of discipline from certain service providers.

Every time I see these posts that basically lecture providers about providing good business services I shake my head. If you want that, stop trying to bang these drug addicts. There are women out there that manage their shit really well.

They tend to cost more and don't haggle, but that's where the service tends to be that everyone seems to want.