Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**HuntLadys29** · 11-05-18 14:29

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.

Well I've been black all my life, and known black women prostitutes and otherwise. With me it's more their attitude than anything else which as a whole is very poor. Most think they're doing me a favor by accepting my money to bang them. They play a lot of games and in the escort world everything is covered. Picking them up on the streets you really have a high probability of getting robbed or ripped off in some way shape or form. Or the ever present are you done? I can't do this for that short money you need to hurry up. That kind of shit. And as far as the track marks the African American community does have some IV drug users but most snort the heroin, that's probably why the girl was nodding. (referencing the reply post after you). I'm glad you've had some positive experiences with AA girls but most of mine have been regrettable experiences. HL29.

**Filmbyter** · 11-05-18 14:02

You ever look at the photo gallery, and before filtering to look for Cincinnati, wish you lived somewhere else?

**RogerOver** · 11-05-18 11:24

Originally Posted by Kenal1 [View Original Post]

STEVE--That's a great response to the Chloe incident. I haven't used your service for a while but did so often while Lady J was working, and I always found you easy to deal with and very responsive. It's good to know that you take your business seriously. I hope, for ALL of our sake, that you can find some new talent.

Originally Posted by EloquentEven [View Original Post]

Sorry to read this unfortunate report of another monger getting duped by a provider. This one is even worse because it's a well known provider and someone who I recently started to schedule for. I just want everyone to know I had no knowledge of this encounter as I am reading this for the first time like you are. I will contact the unfortunate monger and offer him a discount on a EE girl of his choice to try make up for his loss and prevent this kinda thing from happening in the future. The hours on the website are just a educated guess as to who or when ladies might be available. I was told last night by Chloee of some personal issues she had to attend to and haven't heard from her since early this morning. Obviously this kinda of behavior is not acceptable for any lady I schedule for. I have seen about everything over the years so unfortunately things like this do not surprise me. Their true colors always come out eventually. And yes the Quality of ladies I have came across has went way down. But I will continue to do my best to get the best. Thanks again everyone and be safe out there! EE.

Well, she's off EE's site, so I guess that's Steve's answer to this bullshit.

I'm actually a little surprised that I'm surprised that Chloe pulled this shit. You just can't be shocked anymore.

**RogerOver** · 11-05-18 10:43

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.

I tend to agree with you. The black girls I've seen appear to be more focused and organized. Other than weed, I haven't seen anything else. Again, I take care to avoid any addicts if possible.

**Kenal1** · 11-05-18 10:00

Originally Posted by EloquentEven [View Original Post]

Sorry to read this unfortunate report of another monger getting duped by a provider. This one is even worse because it's a well known provider and someone who I recently started to schedule for. I just want everyone to know I had no knowledge of this encounter as I am reading this for the first time like you are. I will contact the unfortunate monger and offer him a discount on a EE girl of his choice to try make up for his loss and prevent this kinda thing from happening in the future. The hours on the website are just a educated guess as to who or when ladies might be available. I was told last night by Chloee of some personal issues she had to attend to and haven't heard from her since early this morning. Obviously this kinda of behavior is not acceptable for any lady I schedule for. I have seen about everything over the years so unfortunately things like this do not surprise me. Their true colors always come out eventually. And yes the Quality of ladies I have came across has went way down. But I will continue to do my best to get the best. Thanks again everyone and be safe out there! EE.

STEVE--That's a great response to the Chloe incident. I haven't used your service for a while but did so often while Lady J was working, and I always found you easy to deal with and very responsive. It's good to know that you take your business seriously. I hope, for ALL of our sake, that you can find some new talent.

**AlanBu** · 11-05-18 09:05

Originally Posted by IlvblckGrls [View Original Post]

Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.

I prefer to be a regular with a few providers, although I do enjoy meeting (and enjoying) someone new now and then. That being said, I arranged a few massages with Jade. Black spinner up from Louisville. I met with her three times. No track marks, great body and good teeth. But she kept falling asleep while on top of me. She would be sitting on my butt, massaging my back and talking. Then the talking got quieter. Then the rubs got few and far between. Then she would just lay her head down and snooze a bit. Then she would wake up, start rubbing and talking, and pretend nothing happened. Finally figured out that she was using in her car right before seeing me.

**IlvblckGrls** · 11-05-18 07:14

Originally Posted by Lenny6746 [View Original Post]

I didn't get into the habits on my fist post of providers going down hill, Theres alot too that. Alot more than we know. Most of us think its just the heroin epidemic that is here in Cincinnati. Theres more than that alot more the meth is worse. Thats coming from 30 miles north alot of it. Black girls only smoke pot Horseshit. Think again. One dude told me give me a housewife. Feed her some meth and I will show you my *****. Thats the differance now days. Its a fact of life. Meth makes them want to fuck. Its a fact. But the quality of providers are way down. So that's the way it is. I'm about to stop my mongering for that reason its becoming too risky! Lenny6746.

Maybe I've just been lucky then, but I have not noticed, with the black girls I've seen, signs like bad teeth, track marks, or any of that.

**EloquentEven** · 11-05-18 01:33

Originally Posted by Ceenote [View Original Post]

I have moved this to the Octagon because it is more me thinking out loud than any real advise. Sorry to hear about this and thanks for your report. It's interesting because Steve of Eloquent Evenings has Chloe on his roster for today working 10 to 10 in NKY so she's already got a room.

I am not advising that you do this but, I can't help but wonder what the look on her face might be when you show up by booking her through Steve at EE. I mean after all, you have already prepaid for the visit, right?

Sorry to read this unfortunate report of another monger getting duped by a provider. This one is even worse because it's a well known provider and someone who I recently started to schedule for. I just want everyone to know I had no knowledge of this encounter as I am reading this for the first time like you are. I will contact the unfortunate monger and offer him a discount on a EE girl of his choice to try make up for his loss and prevent this kinda thing from happening in the future. The hours on the website are just a educated guess as to who or when ladies might be available. I was told last night by Chloee of some personal issues she had to attend to and haven't heard from her since early this morning. Obviously this kinda of behavior is not acceptable for any lady I schedule for. I have seen about everything over the years so unfortunately things like this do not surprise me. Their true colors always come out eventually. And yes the Quality of ladies I have came across has went way down. But I will continue to do my best to get the best. Thanks again everyone and be safe out there! EE.

**Lenny6746** · 11-04-18 18:59

I didn't get into the habits on my fist post of providers going down hill, Theres alot too that. Alot more than we know. Most of us think its just the heroin epidemic that is here in Cincinnati. Theres more than that alot more the meth is worse. Thats coming from 30 miles north alot of it. Black girls only smoke pot Horseshit. Think again. One dude told me give me a housewife. Feed her some meth and I will show you my *****. Thats the differance now days. Its a fact of life. Meth makes them want to fuck. Its a fact. But the quality of providers are way down. So that's the way it is. I'm about to stop my mongering for that reason its becoming too risky! Lenny6746.

**Ceenote** · 11-04-18 18:05

Originally Posted by MDuke [View Original Post]

I have seen Chloe many many times, thought I knew her pretty well. She was the only lady that I would visit until she went away. Each time we have met, we would have lunch or dinner, we have even done an overnight. I am form Dayton and have to travel to Cincy area to see her. Today is the first time I have had the chance to see her, since she has been back. We texted for a few days, setting up today's visit. She told me to meet her at a hotel in NKY, and needed the money upfront for her room. I had no problem doing that, because I have seen her so many times. She took the donation and ran. She sent me two texts, telling me she was sorry and not to call or text her, she was blocking my number. I was very disappointed. She is not the Chloe that I used to know, she has changed.

I have moved this to the Octagon because it is more me thinking out loud than any real advise. Sorry to hear about this and thanks for your report. It's interesting because Steve of Eloquent Evenings has Chloe on his roster for today working 10 to 10 in NKY so she's already got a room.

I am not advising that you do this but, I can't help but wonder what the look on her face might be when you show up by booking her through Steve at EE. I mean after all, you have already prepaid for the visit, right?

**HotBoss** · 11-04-18 18:00

Originally Posted by HuntLadys29 [View Original Post]

I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.

I frequently have similar discussions. The drug epidemic is just out of control but there's more to it, and it is not just service providers. Try to employ people in entry level jobs (this is actually what we do here). Even many young people coming out of college are missing something. They just don't seem to be prepared for life and these girls often have many other issues. Most young women are insulted when we offer direction or criticism and don't know how to handle it. There is so much more I could say but I'm preaching to the choir.

I find myself limiting my activities now to more mature women and the tight young women at AMP's in other select cities. Less Bullshit this way.

**IlvblckGrls** · 11-04-18 17:54

Originally Posted by HuntLadys29 [View Original Post]

I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.

I haven't been around that long, so can't comment, but I do notice a lot of the guys on here talking about white girls and heroin. I'm pretty sure the black girls just smoke weed. Just sayin'.

**HuntLadys29** · 11-04-18 15:42

Originally Posted by SinsinnatiToy [View Original Post]

Been 40 years for me, and I have to say it is the worst that I have ever seen it. There are a few quality girls out there, but over all a lot fewer quality girls and the quality in general has dropped significantly with the H epidemic. I think the biggest difference is on street walkers. When I started a lot of SWs were hot young babes not on drugs, now there are no hot girls out there because they all are hooked on some substance. Plus in those days the strip clubs you could buy a bottle and get carry out service or a back room. Then through the early days of internet all types of quality girls, but the last 15 years has seen a huge reduction in good service.

ST.

I've been mongering since my navy days in the 70's and have been on USASG since 2012 and yes there's a difference. When I started on USA I was into the streetwalkers they were cheap clean and plentiful. The heroin epidemic made me switch to spending more taking less chances with a more supposedly stable escort. But now there isn't a lot out there that moves my needle. And the ones that do are just as unstable as the streetwalkers. If you guys noticed I don't post as much anymore not that I don't want to there's not a lot to report on a lot of skanks time wasters and frauds. But I haven't given up I'm sure these things go in cycles so I'm just hanging out with my side piece and hope things turn around. HL29.

**ThatGuy011** · 11-04-18 15:40

Agreed.

I started back after being out for about 5 years or so. Even just 5 years ago the quality was much better. The girls I used to deal with would all look like they could be my girlfriend if we were out together. Now, even if they are younger than me, they probably look 15 years older than me, at least, and the ones who are my age, just forget it. I have done things with girls far below my level, just because I needed a girl to get the job done. She has a hand, mouth, and hopefully some tits to rub if they haven't withered away. The ones that we refer to as "good looking" now are just the norm from 5 years ago, and still average girls that are not providers, that are just out and about look at least as good or better. The ones that are REALLY good looking (not for a provider) are super rare. The ones I post about are only the stand outs. Many more are nothing to write home about, literally.

If the logistics of getting a legit side girl weren't so complicated, at this point, I'd much rather go that route. I can have something much better looking than today's average provider. But I'm in the office waaay too much combined with my actual family, I don't have the time to give to a girl who I'm trying to get legitimately. Then sooner or later she'll question why she can't come over, and maybe other details I won't think of. Of course if she finds out, she's probably going to want to mess things up for me, and there is a lot to lose.

I swear I wish I was a girl so I could go months without needing sex.

**SinsinnatiToy** · 11-04-18 14:39

Been 40 years for me, and I have to say it is the worst that I have ever seen it. There are a few quality girls out there, but over all a lot fewer quality girls and the quality in general has dropped significantly with the H epidemic. I think the biggest difference is on street walkers. When I started a lot of SWs were hot young babes not on drugs, now there are no hot girls out there because they all are hooked on some substance. Plus in those days the strip clubs you could buy a bottle and get carry out service or a back room. Then through the early days of internet all types of quality girls, but the last 15 years has seen a huge reduction in good service.

ST.

Originally Posted by UOnlyLiveOnce [View Original Post]

Been 7 years for me, this time around. I was looking through the old ads here not too long ago, and it does seem like the selection was better and wider 4-5 years ago. I've mostly been seeing 1 particular provider since USA went live again in the spring. There are maybe a couple others advertising now I'd like to see, but not enough to deviate from the reliable and consistent one I've been seeing.

I think the scene we have now is a combination of low unemployment and the H epidemic. I'm sure there are a few who leave the hobby due to getting clean but unfortunately, there have been several who have either passed away or gone to see their uncle due to H.