Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Dear Prudence]

Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.

You will on occasion find some real talent on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon. Gals like Kylie, for example, are on these sites initially before learning the ropes and migrating to places like USASG.

I agree that the majority of the gals that regularly post on those sites are not top talent and some are rip off artists, but to say you can't find real talent there on occasion is not correct.

[JustACustomer]

I don't know how the deletions are done. But I and several others have discussed elsewhere how any negative reviews we post are soon deleted. Yes, for some reason, some do remain but most are removed and you are then told your account is inactive and you have to open another account to make additional comments or write reviews.

Periodically, you will see an upset monger actually take out a duplicate ad of the provider who is ripping people off that says something like, "I am a thief. If you want me to rip you off, contact me at XXX-XXXX. ".

I can't tell you how the determination is made but this is happening. That is all I know.

In other words, use precaution when contacting any of the gals off of LC / EB.

Honestly, I think the girls on those sites are nasty SW material or a scam, so I don't even waste my time trolling them. I get the underlying need for mongers to have variety, but damn.

[LuckyNutz]

I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.

The problem here in lies with the reporting where she is contacting business.

I've been in a couple of relationships with a pornstar and strippers. What I've come to understand that if you tell them or force them to not do something they will end up doing it regardless. Had one rule with the pornstar, that was don't do BB scenes. She didn't. The strippers rule was won't ask, don't tell me what you do. Just don't go all the way. For the most part it went well for awhile but the pornstar made more money going BB so of course she ended up breaking it off. The strippers inevitably ended up getting a good offer to do the deed fully. Its just the nature of the beast and you know what you signed up for.

[Passnby]

So Catlikr "apologizes" after, apparently, ratting her out for a second time regarding her new incall location in Batavia. Just a couple days ago he wrote:

"Her new in calls exact location is known to The Batavia PD and the Clermont County Sheriff so it's not so safe and discrete. I'd be very careful. Also if you're looking for a 20 something she's 36 and toothless not a single tooth left in her head. ".

And now he says he has "moved on" and no longer lives in Cincinnati. Well, good riddance, Asshole! Just because you were stupid enough to hope for a relationship with her and ruin your life in the process, that was no reason to purposely try to ruin hers and create safety issues for all of us. I hope to hell this is the end of this saga and that we never have to hear from you again.

I can see where he comes from. I fell in love with a SW from Price Hill. It happens. We had a decent relationship. It was not the sex. It was average at best. We just clicked. I loved her company. I'm in my 50's so not a old fart. My 2 cents. PB.

[WanderingAbout]

Since this info isn't a review and more opinion submitting to this section.

Kylie updated her FB status to show she is in a relationship. The guy is either her sugar bf or someone new. If the past pattern fits Kylie will be gone until they break up or she needs fast cash.

Chloe FB pics looks like she has a white trash ratchet thug life street urchin thing going on. Has a history of drug use already at the age of 19. On the horse, clean, now appears to be back on the horse. You can tell by her picture weight and posts when she is clean vs when using. She will be either be stripping or on her back to feed her drug use. Time will tell if she surfaces in a club or on EB or on USA. For now don't know.

No. Will not share FB info. No. Don't have direct contact info for either of them.

[Dear Prudence]

So are you saying the providers get to approve the review or they can have it deleted if they don't like the review? Please explain.

I don't know how the deletions are done. But I and several others have discussed elsewhere how any negative reviews we post are soon deleted. Yes, for some reason, some do remain but most are removed and you are then told your account is inactive and you have to open another account to make additional comments or write reviews.

Periodically, you will see an upset monger actually take out a duplicate ad of the provider who is ripping people off that says something like, "I am a thief. If you want me to rip you off, contact me at XXX-XXXX. ".

I can't tell you how the determination is made but this is happening. That is all I know.

In other words, use precaution when contacting any of the gals off of LC / EB.

[BigCat44]

My knock on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon is it deletes bad comments or reviews. This is crazy and removes the real purpose of the site, from the mongers perspective. Sure, it allows the girls to get the message out but there are no consequences for bad behavior or worse. 80% of my reviews or comments are positive but whenever they are negative about a provider next time I go on the site to give feedback it tells me "account inactive" and all previous comments and reviews are deleted.

This kind of action turns what could be a valuable site for both the monger and provider into a one-way street for the provider. Instead it basically becomes picture catalog for the provider. It also makes it a heck of a lot less safe for mongers. Very disappointing.

So are you saying the providers get to approve the review or they can have it deleted if they don't like the review? Please explain.

[Kenal1]

If DayTimer is member and is threatening you then contact Admin2. He won't stand for that.

So Catlikr "apologizes" after, apparently, ratting her out for a second time regarding her new incall location in Batavia. Just a couple days ago he wrote:

"Her new in calls exact location is known to The Batavia PD and the Clermont County Sheriff so it's not so safe and discrete. I'd be very careful. Also if you're looking for a 20 something she's 36 and toothless not a single tooth left in her head. ".

And now he says he has "moved on" and no longer lives in Cincinnati. Well, good riddance, Asshole! Just because you were stupid enough to hope for a relationship with her and ruin your life in the process, that was no reason to purposely try to ruin hers and create safety issues for all of us. I hope to hell this is the end of this saga and that we never have to hear from you again.

[BTBear]

If DayTimer is member and is threatening you then contact Admin2. He won't stand for that.

I'd you are right about what you say however if I wasn't concerned about other mongers I would not have publicized what I had done. My only goal was to effect CC's business due to her handling of what I thought was our relationship.

I was hurt and out several thousands of dollars from supporting her while she wasn't supposed to be seeing others. I actually would have been out of this much sooner but The DayTimer PMed me with threats of what he was going to do if I didn't quit posting about CC. I don't do well with threats. I have learnt a valuable lesson and don't know what I was thinking even considering marrying a cum guzzling, ass licker with no teeth. But you're right I'm done. I have never seen any other girls in Cincinnati and have no intention of doing so in the future as I have moved from Cincy. I apologize for what has happened.

[Dear Prudence]

My knock on Listcrawler / Escort Babylon is it deletes bad comments or reviews. This is crazy and removes the real purpose of the site, from the mongers perspective. Sure, it allows the girls to get the message out but there are no consequences for bad behavior or worse. 80% of my reviews or comments are positive but whenever they are negative about a provider next time I go on the site to give feedback it tells me "account inactive" and all previous comments and reviews are deleted.

This kind of action turns what could be a valuable site for both the monger and provider into a one-way street for the provider. Instead it basically becomes picture catalog for the provider. It also makes it a heck of a lot less safe for mongers. Very disappointing.

[DD Chaser]

I saw Christen back in the day but she wasn't my type then sure not now still skinny no teeth.

I agree. Catlikr has burned this bridge. I won't share anything with him other then what he reads on my post. Guy like this put all of un in danger.

Saw CC this past weekend at her new place, had been a while since last visit. Great skills, better than I recall, really knows how to put a big smile on ones face, recommend, but she is my type, I like me a mature provider. Three thumbs up.

[WhereDreamsGo]

I'd you are right about what you say however if I wasn't concerned about other mongers I would not have publicized what I had done. My only goal was to effect CC's business due to her handling of what I thought was our relationship.

I was hurt and out several thousands of dollars from supporting her while she wasn't supposed to be seeing others. I actually would have been out of this much sooner but The DayTimer PMed me with threats of what he was going to do if I didn't quit posting about CC. I don't do well with threats. I have learnt a valuable lesson and don't know what I was thinking even considering marrying a cum guzzling, ass licker with no teeth. But you're right I'm done. I have never seen any other girls in Cincinnati and have no intention of doing so in the future as I have moved from Cincy. I apologize for what has happened.

You shouldn't be trying to get the cops involved in this personal dispute (if that happened, I dunno all the details based on my attention level). But also guys on here shouldn't be threatening you for posting whatever you posted. And your story is actually valuable info on here for guys who might be stupid enough to trust any provider beyond the transaction at hand (and by that, I include myself, since I have been there). The sad truth is that any provider freaky enough that we're going to want to have any kind of LTR with them is probably going to get bored and want some outside action anyway, just like we are, which is why we're all here. This is a pretty bad place to find someone for a long-term monogamous relationship, I think we all can agree.

[LoveBeer]

Best of luck to you. I'm glad we got to meet a couple of times.

Yes this is for real. I am going to be with my kid in the Youngstown area. Also going to school for Drug and Alcohol Counseling and get my legit massage license as always been my dream to open a spa. I will no longer answer my phone for calls and no more post after Tuesday night.

You guys will forever hold a special place in my heart. It is my time and been looking forward to moving closer to my kiddo all Summer.

I will see people up until 8 am on Wednesday morning. I love all of you and thank you for the greatest time of my life. Xoxo.

Always,

VR.

[Hillbilly Bob]

I also do not have a dog in this fight either, but the very nature of our hobby is safety, we are all supposed to look out for each other. Calling the cops for any reason is childish and tells the other mongers and the other escorts, that this member Catlikr is not safe to communicate with, see or share information with. A members safety and an escorts safety is at the core of our hobby. I just cannot believe that a member of this forum did something like that.

I saw Christen back in the day but she wasn't my type then sure not now still skinny no teeth.

I agree. Catlikr has burned this bridge. I won't share anything with him other then what he reads on my post. Guy like this put all of un in danger.

[Catlikr]

I also do not have a dog in this fight either, but the very nature of our hobby is safety, we are all supposed to look out for each other. Calling the cops for any reason is childish and tells the other mongers and the other escorts, that this member Catlikr is not safe to communicate with, see or share information with. A members safety and an escorts safety is at the core of our hobby. I just cannot believe that a member of this forum did something like that.

I'd you are right about what you say however if I wasn't concerned about other mongers I would not have publicized what I had done. My only goal was to effect CC's business due to her handling of what I thought was our relationship.

I was hurt and out several thousands of dollars from supporting her while she wasn't supposed to be seeing others. I actually would have been out of this much sooner but The DayTimer PMed me with threats of what he was going to do if I didn't quit posting about CC. I don't do well with threats. I have learnt a valuable lesson and don't know what I was thinking even considering marrying a cum guzzling, ass licker with no teeth. But you're right I'm done. I have never seen any other girls in Cincinnati and have no intention of doing so in the future as I have moved from Cincy. I apologize for what has happened.