Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[Vinnie Kramer]

There definitely is some swelling but not egregious.

If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.

[BuxKA]

If it is a spider bite it can get infected and grow and cause a major issue. I had one that I eventually had to get cut out and it was very painful. If it starts to get bigger tell her to put finger nail Polish on it and it will smother it and it won't get any larger.

My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.

Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.

I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.

I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.

I hope y'all find some amusement as well.

Cheers!

[WesJ96]

I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.

As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.

As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?

To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:

https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo

She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.

The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:

https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone

https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz

https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik

https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl

I agree also, another one would be Katherine.

https://tryst.link/escort/prettttykkitty

[Todd Cincy]

We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.

I agree with what you say about the streetwalkers now dominating the online platforms. That's why the pickings are so slim nowadays.

As for age: 18 to 50 is quite a spread. That is barely legal to grandma territory. My standard is: under 35, with a focus on women under 30. I don't want to pay to boink grandmas.

As for average girls: I am fine with average girls. But what is an average girl?

To the me, an "average girl" is Ryann:

https://tryst.link/escort/ryannxoxo

She's not bad, but you wouldn't gawk at her if you saw her in public, either.

The problem is, most of the girls on the sites at present are not "average". They are old, fat, or simply unattractive:

https://tryst.link/escort/vixen-simone

https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz

https://tryst.link/escort/katness0049-kik

https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl

[Benji513]

I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.

Not sure by what you mean "what you encounter. "? I treat the providers well. What I was trying to get at was more along the lines of what is being provided in calculating what you should pay. So what calculates into that is transportation, the location, advertising, to name a few. If you are picking them up off the street, providing transportation and providing a room. That makes sense that the rate would be much cheaper. Because you are paying much of the cost yourself. But if she has to pay for online advertising, answering calls texts, is already at the location, and paying for the room. Then she is paying more costs and has to charge more. Some of us can't host or use vehicles. So we have to rely on incall locations. I don't pay hour rates, because I don't need that much time.

So Lenny, what are the rates you are used to paying for streetwalkers? So you drive around SW known areas, pick them up, take them back to your place, do whatever, and then drop them back off?

If you have 5 that don't have ads up, mind sharing? Especially if they have incall location.

[Vinnie Kramer]

My wife woke up this morning and came into my office, and said, "Look at my forehead. I think a spider bit me!" After my hysterical laughter subsided to the point I could actually look at her forehead, it did indeed look like some bug had bit her during her slumber.

Many others have claimed to have such a wound, but I think this is the first actual insect bite I have ever seen.

I'm moderately certain she is not injecting heroin or other illicit drugs into her forehead.

I still giggle a little 9 or so hours later when I think about it.

I hope y'all find some amusement as well.

Cheers!

[Lenny6746]

I don't do it in my car, I don't use motels or hotels. I do it in my home I don't pay hour rates These girls are providers LOL. I just do it unlike most do I also treat them with respect not like a piece of fuck meat, We do have sex but its totally different than what you encounter, Lenny6746.

[Benji513]

We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.

The difference is location. You aren't driving and parking and doing the deed in your car. You are paying more for them have a room to do the deed there. So if you want to do the deed in your car for 40, by all means do so. Some would rather pay more to have a room. To me, having a room is less risky. Plus it's more comfortable to have a bed than in an automobile. Now maybe if you had some suped up van or RV, be different. LOL.

[Benji513]

Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.

Yes, it's getting bad. Have to stock up good lotion.

[Lenny6746]

We all have our own tastes when seeking providers. What you think is great I may think she's bad. Ages to me do not matter as long as they are over 18 and under 50. I look for the average girls not the beauty Queens. I mainly judge a provider by performance. If I'm not sexually attracted to one I leave. I'm not into strippers LOL they are not worth a fuck in bed LOL. I've been with a few lesbians they are worse than strippers. In today world 98% are using drugs. Most of them have their BFs or husbands close by. Streetwalkers are now on new sites and liscrawler selling it for 150 to 200 a hour. They were getting 40 on the street. I had counted 4 of them on skip the games in one day last week. On list crawler the ads are full of them. A lot of you say I don't do streetwalkers. The hell you say their ads are up now and your fucking them at a higher rate that's all. I currently have 5 providers I see none with ads up and one that walks. That's the way it is today!! Lenny6746.

[D Nut]

Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.

Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.

Mongering nowadays is like a game of bridge. If you can't find a good partner, you're better off with a good hand.

[Benji513]

Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.

Not sure if any of my recent reviews are ones you are talking about? But as far as looks. Saying someone is decent looking today, is comparing them with other providers of today. I agree, the overall quality of providers in all areas. Looks, performance, etc. Has gone downhill. So when saying some provider looks ok today, when comparing to providers a few years ago, isn't even close.

Only provider that has decent looks would by Katie / Kly30. She has a very nice body. Lolareal was only other one in recent times.

[Hooter12]

Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.

As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:

https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333

And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:

https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl

Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:

https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz

Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.

The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?

Good post. I too am pretty much bored with the hobby, mostly because what is available. I don't prefer the geriatric overweight, underweight, sloppy, bad teeth, cellulite ridden providers that are available. Like I have said before I know we all have our preferences but its actually starting to irritate a little when some the post how "hot" and "great" they are. In fact it seems of all ages that's what is available today in this area. I see members with a lot of posts singing the praises of these provider and I just help but wondering what the hell they are thinking. Its one thing to see them post positively about their performance, but to say they are attractive and look good? C'Mon. Now. Thank god I have two very attractive utr's. But once again I know we all have our, some very strange, very questionable, preferences. It makes us who we are. I've posted before there are some mongers here I give their recommendations, at least in the looks dept, zero credibility based on what they have said about other providers. I hope you are right about the talent changing based on the up and down cycle. You may be right but I'm not so sure.

[Todd Cincy]

Also in my 50's here. Age may be a factor, but here's another one: The options before us at present are simply not very good.

As others have noted, there are some young, chubby $100 girls asking for $500 or more:

https://tryst.link/escort/naughtynicole-333

And I know some of you with geriatric preferences like "MILFs". Fine and good. But there is a difference between a hot older woman (I acknowledge that they exist), and a beat-to-heck, overweight old woman:

https://tryst.link/escort/annie-girl

Or you can spend $450 on a woman whose cellulite-covered posterior could justify its own zip code:

https://tryst.link/escort/karmyn-bankz

Honestly, I don't know if these options would have appealed to me when I was a horny 16-year-old, and certainly not at these prices.

The good news: The market is historically cyclical. This, too, shall pass. If you're feeling unmotivated by the high-priced, low-quality options at present, hold on to your $ for now. COVID turned lots of markets upside down this year. Why should the hobby market be any different?

For those who've been mongering for a while. Do you ever get bored with the hobby? I appear to be in such a phase now. Last time I got some was with Ariel about 3 months ago. For most of the time since then, I've wanted it yet not wanted it at the same time, if you know what I'm trying to say.

I think part of it is I'm getting tired of women in general. Not so much sexually, but more because their bullshit seems to get worse with each passing year (we can thank social media for that). COVID and the lack of quality providers here has probably put a damper on it too. But it's starting to feel kind of boring even apart from these things. Maybe after almost 10 years of pretty continuous hobby action, I'm starting to get de-sensitized to it. 20-something chicks with shaved mounds and tattoos were a novelty and a huge turn-on once upon a time. Now, the novelty has worn off. I used to know how many women I've slept with, now, I would have to go through all my posts here from the last 8 or 9 years to give even a rough estimate.

Maybe it's age too. I'm in my 50's. I've never needed those special pills, but losing some interest kind of bothers me anyway.

Can't really bring up this subject with anyone in everyday life, so am interested to hear your thoughts.

[RolSub18]

I don't live in the hobby. I merely vacation there. As I have stated before, my involvement in the hobby is to indulge a fantasy. I do so for an hour or two, then go back to the reality I live. There I have other passions and interests that challenge, amuse, bemuse, and yes, frustrate me. But it is precisely in the mundane that I find my mind stirring at the thought of my next monger encounter.

Ever read, "The paradox of hedonism"? There, it discusses the question of, "if a pleasure remains, does it remain a pleasure? Perhaps finding something else that demands your time and attention would give you a new appreciation for the little hobby vacations you take.

I wouldn't say I'm bored, but looking at ad (listcrawler Cincinnati) nothing is jumping out at me. I've found about 4 in Dayton I'm going to look into. One I know has been around a while and should be safe is Macii Monroe. There just doesn't seem to be much jumping out at me in Cincy at the moment.