Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**Mall Guy101** · 07-23-23 18:13

Originally Posted by DistantFirtst [View Original Post]

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wondering if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

As others have said it's a scam one person that reported he got one. Then when to his gun cases opened them up to show a big verity of weapons took pictures and sent text back saying bring it on. One time I ran into a scam they called. And I talked to them and they went on and on what they were going to do I had someone in the house say something that they would over hear, and had them say just another 15 seconds we should have this call traced they hung up and never called back. But talking about scams like this there was one reported on the news this week where a mother got a call and she could hear her daughter screaming in the background as the kidnapers where demanding they come up with ransom. She knows her daughters voice and new it was her, Fortunately her husband was home and does work in security called and facetimed his daughter she answered and he could see all was okay what happened the bad guys got a copy of her voice maybe from ease dropping on a conversation she was having and used AI to copy her voice. So it was a copy Ai used to generate what they wanted the voice to say. People in security are now advising families to come up with code words that they will not forget in a time of stress to help you decide if it's real or fake.

**SnarkDog54** · 07-23-23 17:24

Originally Posted by DistantFirtst [View Original Post]

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

That scam has been reported here quite a few times.

**DistantFirtst** · 07-23-23 17:13

Yesterday, I got a text and then a call from someone claiming to "own the escort service", and that I had to pay $3000 immediately for "wasting my girls' time" and if I didn't he was going to send his hit men to kill me and my family. Blocked all the numbers and buttoned down my privacy settings on socials. Just recieved another text saying a death warrant has been issued for me and my family, etc.

Did my research and this seems to be a common scam, but it's still terrifying. Just wonderiing if anyone else has had anything like this happen?

**WanderingAbout** · 07-22-23 14:26

On their public wifi you can access sex websites but gambling and lottery ticket websites are blocked. Against company policy FYI.

**RufusFirefly** · 07-16-23 06:38

Originally Posted by MallGuy101 [View Original Post]

Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

This is very good information. I will add that when I first contact a lady I will ask what area of town they are in and I tell them it is important to plan a visit. That gives the chance for me to see if it is a scam too. If they do not provide an area then I leave it be.

Once we make a plan for a visit I ask for instructions as soon as possible. Many will not provide until 30 minutes prior.

**Hooter12** · 07-15-23 15:02

Originally Posted by HornyAsHell [View Original Post]

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more.

Funny guy.

**Mall Guy101** · 07-15-23 13:06

Originally Posted by Space80 [View Original Post]

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

Most escorts will not give you exact location until you get there for various reasons. Some want to see or have there look out see what kind of car you drive up in, Another they do not want you walking up to the door unannounced. There previous customer my still be there or they need time to clean up. When I start my conversations with an escort one of the first general questions I ask I'd what area they are in. I tell them so its I get an idea how far away they are. Than if we have gotten to the point we want to get together. I say could you give me an address of were or near where your at so I can put into my GPS so that why I can tell you how long it will take me to get there. If it's the first meeting I give a later time than the GPS says so I can scope the place out and to see if there might be an unwanted surprise waiting. Than once I am there I will text and ask what is the room number. I never expect to get the room number till I get there would you want an escort coming up to your house / room unannounced and banging on your door. And from years of experience over 90% of the escorts that do out calls arrive over 10 minuets later they told you and over 90% of the escorts are not ready once you get there.

**Space80** · 07-15-23 07:09

Do why'all hate it when you get everything setup with a girl and you ask for her location / address and she responds with what area she is in. For example:

Me:"What's your address?

Her:"I'm in Clifton. ".

Me:"Cool, where at in Clifton?

Her:"At my apartment / House. ".

Me:" Oh thanks, that totally helps. I guess I'll just knock on every door in Clifton until I find yours".

It could just be me but this shit pisses me off. I just end up saying fuck it and look elsewhere.

**Horny As Hell** · 07-13-23 15:13

That asshole came into the SW section with a condescending holier than thou attitude and insulted us when he does not even contribute there at all.

I simply pointed out that he is not better than anybody else and that if you think you are you're very wrong because the whole goddamn pool of pussy is all the same no matter where you go! Anyone that is playing and is getting more than a hand job (covered or not) is at the same damn risk level and it's actually safer on the streets because at least 80% of the action is just blow job only which is the statistically safer than any kind of full-service covered or not! But the FS AMP's and the hotel girls are just about 100% FS which is significantly higher risk (covered or not).

Not to mention the fact that half of these "hotel girls" that everyone thinks is safe are former street walkers and still have a drug habit. Some perfect examples are Anna from Kentucky, Joy, Jordan, and Kiersten are all former street walkers. They just have a smart phone now and they all offer bareback services too! Fact.

In addition, all "regular providers" have a much higher overhead than SW's do. The hotel rooms aren't cheap. Food delivery etc. The traveling ladies all have airfare and Ubers or car rentals on top of that. Higher overhead even at higher rates means more volume just to cover expenses. More volume is higher risk. The bareback guys push for it, give excuses or pay more. That increases everyone's risk level. The AMP guys that go to Sakura etc are dabbling with a lady that has more customers in one day than an SW does all week and at a higher risk too. Even the ladies that have a reputation of covered everything break those rules for their regulars or someone that pays them enough.

So all of you self centered idiots that think you're better need to realize that you ain't. Wake the fuck up.

Originally Posted by Vilnius [View Original Post]

He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.

**BamBam** · 07-13-23 13:28

Originally Posted by WhereDreamsGo [View Original Post]

Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.

Good idea. Thanks for stepping up.

BAM.

**Lenny6746** · 07-13-23 10:17

Hornyashell and I have been at each other off and on for years. I read his report and totally agree with it. He truly stated the facts the way it is. Thank you for your input and truth. Your views are almost exactly like mine. You will never hear negative comments from me about you again. And I still use my Camaro LOL.

**MarblesKyle** · 07-13-23 08:19

Originally Posted by WhereDreamsGo [View Original Post]

Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.

Much needed. Good idea.

**Lenny6746** · 07-13-23 06:07

First of all these are women new to the business or should be. They get interested and ask for help. WDG do you know what a pimp is?? I doubt it. I receive nothing from helping them. Most of us complain about no new talent and when you find one and post it some asshole makes a new thread and tells us to use it. If there's a issue with it Admin would step in. WDG my advice to you is to keep hunting you Listcrawler girls and be happy with that.

**WhereDreamsGo** · 07-13-23 02:54

Because I created it. Use it, gents, when you're looking to, um, promote (or pimp) your UTRs. It seems even if you do direct people to DMs, they post their pleas for UTR pussy in the escort reviews thread anyway, because your mailbox will fill up. I think posting UTR notices and doing all that hoo-hah in the UTR thread will organize things better.

**Vilnius** · 07-11-23 13:47

Originally Posted by HornyAsHell [View Original Post]

Just stick your head back in the sand and pretend you're safe but anyone with a few brain cells to rub together will realize that unless you find a unicorn of a true utr extremely low level provider that plays safe you're at the mercy of all the other mongers and their actions as well. So those AMP guys that do daty and go bareback are also doing others and it'll always be that way. With the street action like 80% or more is just BJ action anyways. Just keep telling yourself that you're fine LOL.

He didn't ever say anything about being safe. The original comment was about a toothy BJ from a toothless SW. How you made the jump from that "You think you're too good for street pussy" is fucking wild to me. Also, I do hope that you're not arguing that there is the same level of risk in meeting a SW in LPH in your car as there is in going to a provider's non-notel incall. Could you get an STD in either situation? Yeah, sure, but I'll take my chances on the girl that still has it together enough to get her teeth fixed. Not to mention the fact that one thing is definitely more likely to get you robbed than the other. Nothing we do is "safe", but there are definitely degrees to it. Stop acting like there aren't LOL.