Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

**BillBut52** · 01-13-21 14:22

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

HB, no opinions offered. Just facts. Time to wake up and recognize what trump did. It ain't like he didn't.

I really think you offered some facts and some opinion. Right and wrong are values and in most cases opinion / belief. Abortion comes to mind. Calling things facts the are opinion is in vogue right now and probably worse on the liberal side. I don't care for either side and won't participate further in the discussion. I am in agreement with HB though that you are expressing opinions. Delusion might be defined as an inability to distinguish between fact and opinion.

**BengalMan** · 01-13-21 11:16

Originally Posted by HillbillyBob [View Original Post]

You have me confused with someone that gives a damn about what your opinion is.

HB, no opinions offered. Just facts. Time to wake up and recognize what trump did. It ain't like he didn't.

**Hillbilly Bob** · 01-13-21 10:54

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

One side IS right, and the other side is deluded. And the deluded side is stupid, ignorant, obtuse, close-minded, and brain dead.

Because there are simple truths here that cannot be debated, because they are ironclad.

Yes, Trump really DID:

Grab women by the pussy and brag about it, accept Russian assistance in an election, side with Russia over his own country, give classified info to Russian ambassadors IN the Oval Office, claim that anti-Semitic racists in Charlottesville were good people, extort a foreign leader for anything damaging on an opponent, withhold information from the public about a burgeoning pandemic, want to experiment with injecting disinfectant to stop a virus, try to strong arm election officials to concoct enough extra ballots for him to win, and personally incite an insurrection on his own country and his own Vice President.

Yes, these things happened and no amount of "arguing or debating" can change these facts. They are what they are. People on the other "side" of these acts are wrong. They don't have a different "opinion", they are wrong.

WRONG.

So enough of the both sides stuff. The truth is one side. Sorry your stubbornness prevents you from thinking skills you should have learned in junior high.

You have me confused with someone that gives a damn about what your opinion is.

**BengalMan** · 01-13-21 10:48

Originally Posted by Cincyfunguy [View Original Post]

This about sums it up. Everyone think's they're right and no one thinks they're wrong. No one is convincing the other of anything.

One side IS right, and the other side is deluded. And the deluded side is stupid, ignorant, obtuse, close-minded, and brain dead.

Because there are simple truths here that cannot be debated, because they are ironclad.

Yes, Trump really DID:

Grab women by the pussy and brag about it, accept Russian assistance in an election, side with Russia over his own country, give classified info to Russian ambassadors IN the Oval Office, claim that anti-Semitic racists in Charlottesville were good people, extort a foreign leader for anything damaging on an opponent, withhold information from the public about a burgeoning pandemic, want to experiment with injecting disinfectant to stop a virus, try to strong arm election officials to concoct enough extra ballots for him to win, and personally incite an insurrection on his own country and his own Vice President.

Yes, these things happened and no amount of "arguing or debating" can change these facts. They are what they are. People on the other "side" of these acts are wrong. They don't have a different "opinion", they are wrong.

WRONG.

So enough of the both sides stuff. The truth is one side. Sorry your stubbornness prevents you from thinking skills you should have learned in junior high.

**BengalMan** · 01-13-21 10:36

Originally Posted by VinnieKramer [View Original Post]

What the hell is wrong with you? Did you eat lead paint chips as a toddler?

Laughing so hard I can't stand it!

**BengalMan** · 01-13-21 10:33

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

The republicans will be as eager to investigate the Capitol invasion as they were with Benghazi.

Benghazi was 2 1/2 years of hearings for terrorism that was 6000 miles away.

Capitol is. 3 miles away from White House, ought ya be worth about 13 years of hearings.

**RogerOver** · 01-12-21 15:25

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

Hillary never broke any laws. Period. Trump has broken many, both in office and before he was elected. The only reason he was never prosecuted until now is that there is different justice for people with money. Remember Trump University your alma mater??

The republicans will be as eager to investigate the Capitol invasion as they were with Benghazi.

**RogerOver** · 01-12-21 15:21

Originally Posted by Dasap [View Original Post]

BTW I am sure she appreciates you telling everyone your diseased cock has been just inside her since she has been out fo commission for months recovering from a bad accident asshole. Go back to talking about politics your other info is useless to everyone on here. Hopefully you will catch covid soon and go away permanently. No one here would care or miss your worthless postings.

Where did I say I had my diseased cock inside your little pet ho? Why don't you go take her some chicken soup and fuck off. I don't care what you think about my postings or anything else, you pathetic little pus secretion.

**Vinnie Kramer** · 01-12-21 15:15

And this is the root cause of the problem. Over 90 different actual judges have rejected all but one court case, including judges nominated by Trump, and you somehow conclude they were all wrongly decided. Somehow, you know better.

What the hell is wrong with you? Did you eat lead paint chips as a toddler?

Talk about insufferable arrogance.

Good grief.

Originally Posted by RocketGuy [View Original Post]

Your arrogance is insufferable.

As for the last two months, post-election, the man does have a legitimate grievance. There were violations of the election laws, laws on the books, in several Battleground States. That is a fact. And all of the changes to the election laws by the states Attorneys General, courts and unelected officials were not only ILLEGAL but also opened the doors to widespread fraud.

But then, I am just a simple man with a simple mind. I am not as sophisticated as you and others of your ilk.

**Cincyfunguy** · 01-12-21 14:18

This about sums it up. Everyone think's they're right and no one thinks they're wrong. No one is convincing the other of anything.

**JasonZZ1969** · 01-12-21 13:58

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

Hillary never broke any laws. Period. Trump has broken many, both in office and before he was elected. The only reason he was never prosecuted until now is that there is different justice for people with money. Remember Trump University your alma mater??

Yo douche, I aint no trump supporter. Read my post. Yea the ***** is a crook!

**BengalMan** · 01-12-21 12:29

Originally Posted by JasonZZ1969 [View Original Post]

Ha, Ha. Hillary Clinton is a crook! Matter fact, all these congress persons and senator persons are crooks! Don't matter what side your on, there all crooks! When they changed the lobbyist laws

Hillary never broke any laws. Period. Trump has broken many, both in office and before he was elected. The only reason he was never prosecuted until now is that there is different justice for people with money. Remember Trump University your alma mater??

**JasonZZ1969** · 01-12-21 12:12

Originally Posted by BengalMan [View Original Post]

The idea that "elitists" believe they are more intelligent and have better morals and have higher character is simply a lie. NO, elitists do not think this, people with a brain think this.

I have openly stated my republican conservative beliefs. Trump is no conservative. He outsmarted all of you. Wake up, that's all us normal people are asking. Get out of the cult. Believing that a guy who repeatedly donated to Charlie Rangel and many others on the far left is a conservative is just putting your stupidity on a billboard.

Black men being incarcerated at an alarming rate most times for low-level crimes and war on drugs is why the family structure failed, not the great society programs.

Trump is not a strong leader. He is a weak man who co-opted white grievance. Trump is not treated unfairly by the media. The media reports the data it is given. In most outlets this is the truthful data, not the massaged data of Fox. Trump provides them this data. Daily. Hell, hourly. Tweets, lies, and criminality. Constantly. There is almost TOO much for the media to report! That's not on the media, that's on Trump. And then he claims he's the victim. Never seen a person with so much money and power cry so much about how helpless he is.

The argument about the election is only lies and delusions from people who are weak. Trump is weak. His enablers are weak. And you are weak for claiming this fictitious story of voting fraud in what was THE MOST SECURE ELECTION ever held. Ever. And during a pandemic!

So enough of the crying and weakness it's time for us true conservatives to step up and reclaim our party by first admitting that we were conned by a cult leader. At least some of us were, I voted for Hillary a person who was 1000 times smarter and 10000 times better character than a con man.

Ha, Ha. Hillary Clinton is a crook! Matter fact, all these congress persons and senator persons are crooks! Don't matter what side your on, there all crooks! When they changed the lobbyist laws that was the start of our govt being "bought" by big buzziness. They 'own' the govt now. If you don't see it your BLIND! We are all screwed unless we all come together to thwart them! Just my. 03 cents.

**Dasap** · 01-12-21 11:37

Originally Posted by RogerOver [View Original Post]

I believe I will. And since you seem to be looking for a dick to suck, maybe you can ask the guy that just finished barebacking your girl Ariel to give you his.

Fuck off, shit stain.

BTW I am sure she appreciates you telling everyone your diseased cock has been just inside her since she has been out fo commission for months recovering from a bad accident asshole. Go back to talking about politics your other info is useless to everyone on here. Hopefully you will catch covid soon and go away permanently. No one here would care or miss your worthless postings.

**RogerOver** · 01-12-21 10:50

Originally Posted by RocketGuy [View Original Post]

But then, I am just a simple man with a simple mind. I am not as sophisticated as you and others of your ilk.

I'm starting to think that you and others of your "ilk" need some sort of metric to figure out if they're on the right side of history. Let me help you out:

Look around at the others that are on your team. Look for the presence of Nazis, white supremacists, casual racists, or anyone looking for applause lines for things they think Hitler got right.

Nazi participation on your team is always a helpful indicator that you've fucked up. Guess they don't teach that in all those classes you took.